FJR clutch master

[Tapartacus]

So I'm just not happy with the FJR clutch mod I've done to my 92. It just doesn't seen to engage the clutch properly. I find it difficult to down shift most of the time, and when the engine is really hot in traffic... forget it! I know it's bled properly because when I put it in gear from neutral the bike doesn't want to creep fwd, which I understand if it did then there is an issue. Any thoughts? Is there a clutch MC out there with a 5/8 bore I could revert to that has the same look as the FJR master with the adjustable lever? Or am I just missing something? My 89 shifts so much smoother with the stock MC. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew

[1tinindian]

This might seem like a no-brainer, but have you tried the different positions on the lever?

I have the FJR clutch master on my 91 FJ and am very happy with its function.

Leon

[FJ_Hooligan]

I didn't like the FJR master cylinder on my clutch for the very same reasons.  It just didn't seem to release quite enough and made shifting clunky and hard even with the lever set all teh way out.  Just last weekend I re-installed the stock master cylinder and am much happier with the shifting now.

[ribbert]

I didn't like the FJR master cylinder on my clutch for the very same reasons.  It just didn't seem to release quite enough and made shifting clunky and hard even with the lever set all teh way out.  Just last weekend I re-installed the stock master cylinder and am much happier with the shifting now.

Irrespective of whether they work or not I have never quite understood why you would want an adjustable clutch lever. Certainly on the brake, but I can't see any advantage on the clutch. It obviously gives you the option of more progressive engagement over longer lever travel but I don't see that as desirable, just the opposite.

Someone care to enlighten me.

Noel

[1tinindian]

Noel, I would say that it all depends on where you like the feel of when/ where the clutch starts to engage.
I like it set to where it is close to the grip, instead of waiting for it, the farther out you release the lever.
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Leon

[FJmonkey]

The Kawasaki Concour has the stock looking clutch and brake masters. I put the a brake master on when I upgraded my front to 17" and noticed it is a 5/8 dia bore.
ZG1000 Kawasaki Concour

[ribbert]

Noel, I would say that it all depends on where you like the feel of when/ where the clutch starts to engage.
I like it set to where it is close to the grip, instead of waiting for it, the farther out you release the lever.
.

Leon

Well Leon, if you have a preference for that sort of feel I guess that's a good enough reason. Personally I hate clutches that take up just off the grip but there is no right or wrong, just whatever feels right to you.

Noel

[movenon]

The Kawasaki Concour has the stock looking clutch and brake masters. I put the a brake master on when I upgraded my front to 17" and noticed it is a 5/8 dia bore.
ZG1000 Kawasaki Concour

A question, is the clutch switch the same ? Or I guess a better question is how did you handle that part of the conversion . 
George

[FJmonkey]

A question, is the clutch switch the same ? Or I guess a better question is how did you handle that part of the conversion . 
George

That is a very good question indeed as I still have my OEM clutch master. I was going to change it next time I work on the clutch.

[Tapartacus]

Thanks everyone, Mark should I assume that if the Concours brake MC is 5/8 the clutch should be the same? I wonder if the FJR lever would fit.
Andrew

[Arnie]

Thanks everyone, Mark should I assume that if the Concour brake MC is 5/8 the clutch should be the same?
Andrew

NO.  Most (maybe all) m/cylinders will have the bore size cast into them.  Don't assume the brake size m/c has any relation to the clutch m/c.

Arnie

[Tapartacus]

Check this out. Says 14 on the casing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/92-Kawasaki-Concours-ZG-1000-Clutch-Master-Cylinder-LV-/150861115304  It is from a 92 though. Monkey suggested 04.
Andrew

[1tinindian]

The Kawasaki Concour has the stock looking clutch and brake masters. I put the a brake master on when I upgraded my front to 17" and noticed it is a 5/8 dia bore.
ZG1000 Kawasaki Concour

A question, is the clutch switch the same ? Or I guess a better question is how did you handle that part of the conversion . 
George

Seems to me when I did mine George, the FJR switch has 3 prongs and the FJ is just a 2 wire.
You might have to check with a DDM or test lamp, but I think I didn't use the center prong, bent one of the outer prongs in towards the middle and spaced them to match the 2 wire FJ connector.
Plugged the connector in and it works like it should.

Leon

[movenon]

The Kawasaki Concour has the stock looking clutch and brake masters. I put the a brake master on when I upgraded my front to 17" and noticed it is a 5/8 dia bore.
ZG1000 Kawasaki Concour

A question, is the clutch switch the same ? Or I guess a better question is how did you handle that part of the conversion . 
George

Seems to me when I did mine George, the FJR switch has 3 prongs and the FJ is just a 2 wire.
You might have to check with a DDM or test lamp, but I think I didn't use the center prong, bent one of the outer prongs in towards the middle and spaced them to match the 2 wire FJ connector.
Plugged the connector in and it works like it should.

Leon

Thanks Mark and Leon. As I have to install new grips and replace the left turn signal switch I am thinking it would be as good a time as any to change out the clutch and brake master's. Blue spots are on the horizon and the clutch master at a min. should be rebuilt anyhow. Fred also suggested Honda GL 1800 units. The fluid couplings are on the front same as the stock FJ's. Good chance to convert to Dot 5 I guess. 
George

[nurse]

I'm running with the fjr unit and i reckon its all good! Seems better than the original.  I also have it set so the lever engages with the slightest release.  FWIW