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Can you remove baffles from standard mufflers

Started by wazzafromtassie, August 18, 2013, 08:15:12 AM

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wazzafromtassie

Hi all,

My name is Justin. I'm new here and recently purchased my first FJ. it's a 93 FJ1200.
I found that while this is a fantastic bike in almost every way, I can't help thinking how much nicer it would be with a bit more exhaust noise.
I have a fairly limited budget at the moment and was wondering if there was a way to remove baffles from the mufflers, rather than buying som straight through cans for it.
Also, if there was a way, would I also need to jet carbies or would it still run fine?

Thanks. :good2:

FJmonkey

Yes you can, there should be a write up on this in the files section. If you still have your stock air box you may not need to rejet. Opening up the pipes and pod air filters, yes, rejet will be required.

Welcome, now shoot over to the introduction section and say hello.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

The General

Quote from: wazzafromtassie on August 18, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
Hi all,

My name is Justin. I'm new here and recently purchased my first FJ. it's a 93 FJ1200.
I found that while this is a fantastic bike in almost every way, I can't help thinking how much nicer it would be with a bit more exhaust noise.
I have a fairly limited budget at the moment and was wondering if there was a way to remove baffles from the mufflers, rather than buying som straight through cans for it.
Also, if there was a way, would I also need to jet carbies or would it still run fine?

Thanks. :good2:
:hi: Welcome Justin. No you won`t have to rejet if all is stock, but you WILL need ear protection. (so will most of the residents on your island) There`s another 2 on this forum from down your way. Post a pic.  :drinks:
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

ribbert

Quote from: wazzafromtassie on August 18, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
Hi all,

I can't help thinking how much nicer it would be with a bit more exhaust noise.


No need to think, THEY DO!!
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Alf

Quote from: FJmonkey on August 18, 2013, 08:33:19 AM
Yes you can, there should be a write up on this in the files section. If you still have your stock air box you may not need to rejet. Opening up the pipes and pod air filters, yes, rejet will be required.

Welcome, now shoot over to the introduction section and say hello.

Ummmmm, well, I know it is difficult to say it  :blush:  but no, you can´t (or I thinked that way). 5 or 6 years ago an FJ owner sent me a complete detail of the OE mufflers completely open. And it was impossible due to the inner design, with a lot of walls and a labyrinth inside. I promise that I´m going to look for the pics in my old archives... BUT if FJmonkey says it is possible, it could be possible

FJmonkey, amigo: I´ve have not find the file that you speak about. ???

fj11.5

Welcome wazza,  where in tas are you mate,, I've checked out my original pipes, looks like three rivets holding the end cap on, buti doubt its as easy as taking that off and pulling the guts out , check out your closest wrecker , may swap your original cans for a later / easier to mod set
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

The General

Quote from: Alf on August 18, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on August 18, 2013, 08:33:19 AM
Yes you can, there should be a write up on this in the files section. If you still have your stock air box you may not need to rejet. Opening up the pipes and pod air filters, yes, rejet will be required.

Welcome, now shoot over to the introduction section and say hello.

Ummmmm, well, I know it is difficult to say it  :blush:  but no, you can´t (or I thinked that way). 5 or 6 years ago an FJ owner sent me a complete detail of the OE mufflers completely open. And it was impossible due to the inner design, with a lot of walls and a labyrinth inside. I promise that I´m going to look for the pics in my old archives... BUT if FJmonkey says it is possible, it could be possible

FJmonkey, amigo: I´ve have not find the file that you speak about. ???
"Welcome Justin. No you won`t have to rejet if all is stock,..post a pic" My thoughts too Alf, Hence the request ta post a pic.  (popcorn)
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

Alf

I miss:
you don´t have to re jet even with a KN filter in the OE airbox and open mufflers. All FJs come rich from the factory

FJmonkey

I guess some files from the old Yahoo site have not been moved or copied over. This link should help. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahafj/files/EXHAUST%20MOD/
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Alf

I advice that if FJMonkey say yes, IT IS YES
Thanks, my friend
Anyway I´m going to look for that pics showing the muffler autopsy

FJmonkey

And FWIW, the FJs here in the States were lean to pass emissions, not sure about the rest of the world.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Alf

Here in Europe the lean required to pass the control emissions is got through the mixture screws only. And I think there at US is the same (except CA) because mains and needles are the same (only without grooves)

andyb

Of course any motorbike that's comfortably 20+ years old will be undoubtedly stock, as owners refitting jets is a terribly rare practice, and nearly as rare as the machine being taken to a dealer that makes changes for no apparent reason.....

Also, fuel the world round burns exactly the same, because it's of course mixed the same the world over, providing a single jetting is sufficent the world over.

Fortunately, lawmakers have banded together and ensured that all countries have the same requirements for meeting emissions checks, so there's little reason to even look into the carbs, as they're undoubtedly perfect from the factory.


Opening the mufflers should be quite simple if you have a large drill and aren't afraid of a bit of fabrication.

Alf

Quote from: Alf on August 19, 2013, 02:39:46 AM
I advice that if FJMonkey say yes, IT IS YES
Thanks, my friend
Anyway I´m going to look for that pics showing the muffler autopsy

In Spain we say: "lo prometido es deuda". It mean something similar to "like I promised I got a debt and now I do it"... well, more or less  :pardon:



The easiest way for me is to buy a pair of cans from a XJR and do the trick to them

fj11.5

Is that allll that's in them,, fiberglass and perferated tube must of been expensive back then  :biggrin:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne