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Pro-oiler Installation 92 FJ1200

Started by biggo, December 29, 2012, 08:46:07 PM

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biggo

Hi All

Write up for install of pro oiler here
Full write up on my blog here   http://biggsbiking.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/pro-oiler-instalation.html

Can some help me how to upload photos on this forum I am having difficulty  :dash2: [done]

For some time I have been sitting on the fence and looking at all types of chain oilers for my Yamaha fj1200.



There are many different types of oiler available, probably the most popular and well known being the scottoiler. The choice is from systems with a bottle you just give an occasional squeeze to send some oil to the dispensing nozzle at one end to electronically controlled systems at the other end of the scale.


So why did I decide to fit an oiler ?  I had a chain break on one of my GPZ 900R s some years ago. To be fair I hadn't maintained the chain as well as I should and the bike had been parked up for the winter in the UK. I had been for a ride a few months earlier when then was salt on the roads due to icy conditions and I had parked it up without thoroughly cleaning my chain and the salt had started some bad corrosion on my low mileage chain (4000miles)..

Anyway out for a ride with a couple of mates in the Norfolk countryside when a huge bang and shuddering form the back of the bike.  One of the sideplates on the chain had snapped in two, I was very lucky it didn't all get wrapped around my rear wheel. Anyway after a change of underwear the recovery service arrived to take me home.


Anyway decided to go for a Pro-oiler after looking at countless write ups on the web. Certainly not cheap ( cost NZ$ 310 delivered from Europe ) but I did like the quality and their attention to detail.


Oiler arrived in 7 days from Europe.
See picks here




Read and studied very comprehensive instructions ( 30 Pages ), trouble shooting , and programming guides before tackling the install.

As the FJ has a mechanical speedo I had to fit a reed switch and magnet to the rear wheel, the system activates the pump every so many wheel revolutions depending on how rich the system is set.

If you tell proiler what bike you are fitting it to they pre programme the unit for your particular wheel size chain size length etc.  Mine was already set by them and upon first reading the instructions it can look a bit mind boggling.

Anyway cable tied and glued the small reed switch to the rear caliper carrier, you also get a small magnet that fitted very tightly into one of the allen screws that hold on the brake disc.


Reed Switch fitted to caliper bracket


Next find a suitable place for the controller. Pro-oiler suggest you place it so you can access it with your left hand for easy adjustment while on the move. On the FJ I found what I thought was the perfect place but on the right hand inner fairing. My thoughts are that once I am happy with the richness of the oil flow it is basically fit and forget.  Pro-oiler recommend you turn up the oil in the rain of if on dusty roads where the chain may get dry but I think I can use my right hand for those operations.

Pro-oiler Controler




The brain of the system is the junction box .  I found an area behind the right hand side cover that I thought would give me enough room for the junction box and the pump next to the battery box.

Prooiler supply self adhesive velcro lads to install the components but I chose to use long cable ties that went around the whole battery box seemed more secure to me.

Junction box with oil pump fitted below





There was still enough room to fit the oil reservoir behind the panel in a position that would make topping up easy, although pro-oiler say that one container can last 10000 kms so not topping up that often..

Oil Reservoir



Now time for the business end .

The nozzle that dispenses the oil onto the rear sprocket. This is an area there are different versions but I thought the proiler dual sided nozzle was one of the best. The nozzle comes with a nice stainless bracket that can be glued or bolted to the swinging arm. As the FJ1200 has a steel swinging arm I decided that two small holes and bolting it on was the best way to go.  Not sure if I would with an alloy swinging arm.

Nozzle Set up



The nozzle runs on either side of the sprocket so the oil is forced into the chain by centrifugal force.




I have done just over 1000kms with the oiler installed and very pleased with results.

The chain remains very clean, i am using just normal engine oil as it flings off the dirt with the oil. One of the problems with sticky chain grease it it does stick to the chain but so does all the dirt and grit forming a grinding paste type effect. The chain remains just lightly oiled and very clean.




I did find that the oil fling off was covering my number plate and would cover my panniers if fitted so decided to make an extension to the chain guard this has worked very well, there is some fling off onto the tyre and wheel but being plain engine oil is very easy to clean off.

Chain Guard Extension



Anyway very happy with the whole Pro-oiler package and would highly recommend it, they have taken a lot of time and effort to produce a first class product..

[Pat's edit: moved pictures over from blog to forum. Thank you Phil for the very nice write up...well done laddie]
FJ1200 1994
XJ900F 1986

http://biggsbiking.blogspot.co.nz/

The General

Nice write up Biggo. Couldn`t see your chain guard extension, but would like ta see some sort of wrap around. You do still get a bit of fling. They are great for touring but I`m a bit jitterish in hard left hand sweepers with chain oilers since I lost traction due to oil fling when under power once. - hell of a tank slapper scared me and tha car I was passing.  (popcorn)
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

SlowOldGuy

I feel sorry for anyone riding behind you. 

I once rode behind someone who had a Snot Oiler.  NEVER again, what a mess on my FJ!

DavidR.

Pat Conlon

The Scott oiler is crap. I had one...never again. It emptied a whole bottle of oil when I went from the desert floor up to Julian. A plugged vent at the bottle was the culprit....what a fuckin mess...and *just* a tad slippery to boot. Although quite exciting on mountain roads...

A positive displacement electric pump is the only way to go if you are considering a chain oiler

I have a hybrid on my '92.... Remember Hawke Oilers? I have one of those with a Pro Oiler tip on the sprocket.
Rather than a automatic function based on magnets and reed switches (which I don't trust) I have installed a momentary contact switch on my left switch cluster. I press it four times before every other gas stop, usually when I'm coasting down the off ramp. I use chain saw bar oil.

The key I have found is not to oil the chain at freeway speeds (again, why I don't like auto oilers)..20-30 mph works well....although still messy.

Phil, here's a tip: place the oil resvoir where you can get to it without having to remove your luggage.  :dash1:
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racerman_27410

Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 29, 2012, 11:48:53 PM
The Scott oiler is crap. I had one...never again. It emptied a whole bottle of oil when I went from the desert floor up to Julian. A plugged vent at the bottle was the culprit....what a fuckin mess...and *just* a tad slippery to boot. Although quite exciting on mountain roads...

A positive displacement electric pump is the only way to go if you are considering a chain oiler

I have a hybrid on my '92.... Remember Hawke Oilers? I have one of those with a Pro Oiler tip on the sprocket.
Rather than a automatic function based on magnets and reed switches (which I don't trust) I have installed a momentary contact switch on my left switch cluster. I press it four times before every other gas stop, usually when I'm coasting down the off ramp. I use chain saw bar oil.

The key I have found is not to oil the chain at freeway speeds (again, why I don't like auto oilers)..20-30 mph works well....although still messy.

Phil, here's a tip: place the oil resvoir where you can get to it without having to remove your luggage.  :dash1:


I have the same setup Pat... works great and nowhere near the mess of the scottoiler since i control when the oil is dispensed. :good2:

biggo

Hi Pat

Thanks for adding pictures for me .
Could you tell me how to add pictures to a post cant figure it out  :scratch_one-s_head:

Cheers  Phil

[Pat's edit: moved pictures over from blog to forum. Thank you Phil for the very nice write up...well done laddie]
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FJ1200 1994
XJ900F 1986

http://biggsbiking.blogspot.co.nz/

Dan Filetti

Live hardy, or go home. 

FJmonkey

Quote from: biggo on December 30, 2012, 01:12:26 AM
Hi Pat
Could you tell me how to add pictures to a post cant figure it out  :scratch_one-s_head:
Cheers  Phil

Helpful tip: In any post that has pictures or other features that you want to see how it is done, click in the upper right of that same post where it says "Reply with quote". Then read in the text portion that shows the coding that makes it happen. Adding pictures kicked my butt till I saw that Flicker added way too much info when I did a simple cut and paste. I saw that I needed to trim out the extra crap from the Flicker URL address to get my pictures to show. It also helps in understanding how to use the Hyperlink and other fun stuff.

Warning this link has Yamaha content.
Have fun with it...
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Goetz

The girl in the middle seems to be contemplating a career change.

biggo


I sent a few pictures to Pro-oiler  http://www.pro-oiler.net/ as they have a gallery of differant bike fitments but the FJ1200 was not there. I did find it usefull when panning my install though to look at what other people had done.

I got a great reply from Arnold at pro-oiler below

Hello Phil,
Thank you very much for the pictures,
We uploaded them to our gallery.

http://pro-oiler.net/gallery/yamaha/fj1200/

If you like, we could put your name/site under the pics:
Photo's courtesy of Phil Biggs from New Zealand
Sometimes people don't like their name published, so therefore I am asking.

Also:

Pro-Oilers are programmed a bit on the rich side, judging from the pics, I'd say you can select a lower setting, like 2 or even 1.
If there's still too much fling off, you can select a leaner table (14 or 15) and save the new table.
Panniers influence the drag too, so that's also a reason for a lower setting.




Best regards,



Arnold Wubbels
Sales
Pro-Oiler NL
T 0031 (0) 485 372286
F 0031 (0) 848 316201
FJ1200 1994
XJ900F 1986

http://biggsbiking.blogspot.co.nz/

mr blackstock

My little FJ1100 uses the Scot oiler, admitedly working out the right setting is VERY important, I spent a long time scrubbing tyre walls.  I found a 50 percent mix of Morey oil and car oil very good, no fling, and it lasts forever!  A full top up every 1000 kms.  Lucas also do a sticky oil additive like Morey oil, very sticky---no fling---long life chain.

cheers, Gareth
Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985