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Started by nurse, October 29, 2012, 04:29:13 AM

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nurse

October 29, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
I know they arnt really, but they look like it!, Anywho, i have been looking to install some running lights, very small and very compact, but very bright.  Was trying to remove the scoops to aid with running cables and mounting but there appears to be some kind of fourth fixing (on the top right) it appears to have a white ring?? stoping it coming out cleanly (havnt had to remove any plastic until now) i have removed the three obvious fixings and can see where the ducting runs (i assume this is more for cooling puposes than any thing else) but dont want to just yank it out and feck something up.  The haynes manual makes reference to removing the petrol tank first, but that seems like a right faff, just to take two small bits of fairing off!?!

Is it some kind of retaining stud?

Also do you tink reducing the flow of air a little will make too much difference (bearing in mind the UK may reach 75 degrees once a year if your lucky)?

Cheers
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FJmonkey

#1
October 29, 2012, 05:57:20 AM
Check here: http://www.ronayers.com/fiche

If there is a fastener you are missing then it should show here.
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nurse

#2
October 29, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
Thanks Monkey,

The bit im looking at is listed as a grommit.  Im guessing there is some sort of flange/protrussion that goes into this grommit?  reluctant to yank and hope!  Will have another look this evenins, see if im missing something!
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Arnie

#3
October 29, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
Yank gently on it. :-)  There is a rubber grommet that one of those pointy mushroom head pins goes into holding the scoop in place.  You can try to spray some WD40 in there with the nozzle straw.
As for running lights in the scoops, I did exactly that with an 8 white LED strip in each scoop and wired into a ignition powered line.  http://tinyurl.com/9rayxeg  
Held in place with automotive double stick tape.

Arnie


Quote from: nurse on October 29, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
Thanks Monkey,

The bit im looking at is listed as a grommit.  Im guessing there is some sort of flange/protrussion that goes into this grommit?  reluctant to yank and hope!  Will have another look this evenins, see if im missing something!

nurse

#4
October 29, 2012, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: Arnie on October 29, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
Yank gently on it. :-)  There is a rubber grommet that one of those pointy mushroom head pins goes into holding the scoop in place.  You can try to spray some WD40 in there with the nozzle straw.
As for running lights in the scoops, I did exactly that with an 8 white LED strip in each scoop and wired into a ignition powered line.  http://tinyurl.com/9rayxeg  
Held in place with automotive double stick tape.

Arnie


Quote from: nurse on October 29, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
Thanks Monkey,

The bit im looking at is listed as a grommit.  Im guessing there is some sort of flange/protrussion that goes into this grommit?  reluctant to yank and hope!  Will have another look this evenins, see if im missing something!

Where abouts did you chop it in? Did you take any pics of installation?

Cheers
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

I'm told I'm cynical, pessimistic and generally miserable. I say that I'm realistic! The fact that reality sucks is not my fault!

nurse

#5
October 29, 2012, 05:14:09 PM
Had a fiddle and jiggle (with the bike not with my pants! still a bit early in the evening for that!). Managed to get the scoops off. Now just need to find a couple of suitable points to take a feed from ignition circuit!  Will carry this topic on in mods section if you folks want to chip in!
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

I'm told I'm cynical, pessimistic and generally miserable. I say that I'm realistic! The fact that reality sucks is not my fault!

Arnie

#6
October 29, 2012, 06:43:58 PM
No, I didn't take any pics of installation.  I'll do that and post to list today.
I'm pretty sure that any of the brown wires is +12V only when the ignition is on.  I'll check.

Arnie

Arnie

#7
October 30, 2012, 07:35:43 AM
OK, here are pics of the bike with the LED running lights in the scoops.

   Look carefully, you can just see them inside the scoops

   Here they are once the ignition is on

   And a close up with the headlight as well


Cheers,
Arnie

nurse

#8
October 30, 2012, 08:06:26 AM
Nice one Arnie! Great minds think alike so they say.

Thats pretty much the identicle concept i had in mind!  I also have 4 small (one inch) 'bullets' coming with are high intensity LEDs Was going to mout one set in the scoops the others under the fairing just in front of the forks.  Not sure which im gonna mount where yet!

Do you remember where you took the feed from? did you solder or just use a chop/snap block?
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

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RichBaker

#9
October 30, 2012, 08:01:20 PM
I don't like to solder on motorcycle wiring. Where I work, we do a lot of vibration testing of electronic assemblies, and soldered wire connections tend to break a LOT more often than crimps. The solder is too stiff and the wires break right at the edge of the solder.... in fact, we avoid using a soldered wire connection for that very reason. When we do have to solder a wire, we use a lot of bonding material to keep the wire from moving around close to the solder joint.
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Arnie

#10
October 30, 2012, 08:16:58 PM
I would have soldered  and shrink-wrapped to switched power (Br wire), but don't remember which one I tapped.  There's a few in there including the horn lead and the main switch connector.  These LED lights don't pull much power.

I've read Rich's warnings for many years now, and wouldn't mind some split brass crimp tubes for tapping into an existing circuit, but I've never seen them on sale.  Maybe I'm not looking in the right place.  I don't doubt his professional experience with failure rates, but I've not had any failures of soldered connections.

Arnie    still using tin/lead/rosin solder
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