The new "Run-in" oil

[FJTillDeath]

Just a question thats been bugging me that I would like some extra input on..

When I bought my FJ it had 4500km on the clock - highly skeptical for a bike 26 years old. However it had its original speedo casing and parts etc. The speedo was working as well(well it would stick around 120km/h and not further. However when I got the bike it recorded the mileagae I did 99percent correctly.

The bike has no service history, so its never been serviced - by a professional. It has however had engine work done to it and fork work(p/o went over a mini circle). According to the papers it was registered in 2002. its a UK import according to the visible numbers stamped to the frame(it does not have a 17 number VIN, instead the last 9 digits, or was it the first 9? of one) So I am thinking maybe it was imported to South Africa in 2000 and then registered here then. I may be wrong...

Considering if any of this is possible, had 4500 original kms and no service history, might I still have the run in oil the bike came with? I know the only answer for this would be to drain the oil and see for myself, but I wouldnt know the difference between normal and run in oil. The reason I have asked is because of the oil leak I have on the bike. The oil seems really low grade and really really old and sludgy, apart from that I have seen tiny little metal shards in some of the oil that has leaked from the bike. I have only ever seen this when I replaced the oil in my old 125cc bike that still had its tun in oil. On the second oil change there were still a few shavings but nowhere near as much as the first oil drain, on the 3rd there were none.

Now obviously the dealer who sold the bike to me should have done maintenance like this before they sold it to me. Though I am told some dealers avoid this to make more money off the customer through a service(plus they had neither cleaned nor synced the carbs when I bought it)

If this is true would it contribute to the engine not running so smoothly, or would normal old crappy oil contribute to this.

[tmkaos]

Food for thought - my 92 had 15,000 km showing  when I bought it a few years ago. Now looking at the condition of the bike -scratches, dings, replaced parts etc I made a call that the bike had actually done 115,000kms and the speedo had just rolled over.. anyone know if this is true?

So my point is, what is the condition of your bike like? Does it look like it's done 4,500km worth of riding, or 104,500km?

As to the oil question - just change it.. and like, yesterday. Oil is cheap compared to replacing the motor and it will love that fresh oil and filter, mmmm mmmm mmm.

I change mine religiously at half the specified intervals, have done for all my vehicles and swear by it for helping with longevity...

[FJTillDeath]

Will replace the oil and find a filter at month end when I get paid, but the bike definitely has not done 104 500km.. When I first got it people were amazed at how clean and new it looked, most thought it was a fairly new bike apart from its design. To admit though, the paint on the handlebars has started peeling away and a lot of the parts are worn, mostly like if the bike was just stored for a lengthy period. The p/o did have another bike and rode it a lot more when this one had its little oopsie. I dont think it has 100000km worth of mileage but probably a bit more than what it had.. all I can say is p/o didnt really take care of it on the mechaincal side

[Arnie]

Jesse,

Your bike is not 4500kms old.  It may be 104,500 kms or 204,500 kms old.
What is the thickness of your brake disks?  Your brake pads should be worn less than 1mm from new thickness if it were that new.
How much wear is on the footpeg rubber?  None is the only answer if its only 4500kms.
How much wear is on the grips?  None is the only answer if its only 4500kms.
At 4500kms your chain and sprockets might be rusty, but would not be showing ANY wear.
While your exhaust might have rusted in all these years, it would not have shown all the damage in the pics you've posted.
Some people do not keep service records, but still service the bike.
Some people lie.  Its a fact.  Get used to it.

Certainly change your oil and filter ASAP !!!!!  And every 5,000kms afterwards.

Cheers,
Arnie

[FJ-Paul]

The wheel rims will give you a good clue. The bike will have had many new tyres in 104,500 miles and the rims will probably show witness marks from gorilla tyre fitters. HTH, Paul.

[FJTillDeath]

If it is 104500 or 204500 it has been kept reaaally well, but in aswer:

The foor pegs have some slight wear especially on the tips and very curved up.

No wear on the grips but the trottle is slack(lot of freeplay)

the break disks actually look brand new(well they did when I got the bike) so that may have been replaced. People keep thinking there is a crack in them as where the disk meets the other half there is a tell tale slit through all the disks., gives a bit of pinching though. But yes the pads themselves are quite worn.

I do need to replace the chain and sprocket though their condition is not that of rusting.

I was hoping a little that this was the problem and could therefore be a simple fix..well changing the oil and filter WILL still help..

And to Paul, yeah thats true, havent checked my rims, but according to the tires they are from 2008 and 2010 - quite new...

Thanks TMkaos and Arnie.. boy is my mother gonna be glad when she hears that I was wrong again and the bike does actually have sky high mileage...

[Mark Olson]

shhhhhhhhh. what mamma don't know ,can't hurt her.