Started a business, can get really good prices on some parts if needed!

[mst3kguy]

Hunting radioactive substances.
True.
In Kakadu National Park, Northern Territory, Australia.

that does explain a lot...

[Arnie]

That's good form, just call me names and continue ripping up and raping a World Heritage Listed National Park.  This area is one of the most beautiful places in Australia.
  (for those who don't know Kakadu, think of mining Yosemite National Park)

Why not put a mine in some place where it won't be noticed, like Coober Pedy?

While uranium does produce X-Rays, that's not how they're made in medical use.  All the other uses of radiactive substances you mention can be met very easily with the existing mines both here in Aus and elsewhere.  Who do you hope to sell these "radiactive substances" to, India or Iran?  They're the two countries currently trying to expand their nuclear programs.

Yes, I use electricity that is partially produced by coal burning generators, so?  I also drive and ride vehicles that use petroleum based fossil fuels. 
Neither of these means I see the world like you - As an opportunity to line my pockets no matter the cost in irreplaceable natural beauty and unique habitat.

I don't even demand that you stop digging up the world, just that you choose where you do this with more care and consideration.

Arnie

 

Hunting radioactive substances.
True.
In Kakadu National Park, Northern Territory, Australia.

Leave it in the fuckin ground you pillager!
Kakadu needs to be protected from you and your greedy buddies.

Arnie 

Shut up, Hippy.
You are using a computer, powered by coal burning power stations.
Amongst other things,we need X-Rays, smoke detectors and cancer therapies.
Go live in a humpy, wear sack cloth and ashes.

[RichBaker]

No different than mining the Grand Canyon for Uranium......   http://www.grandcanyontrust.org/grand-canyon/uranium_issues.php

Pretty sleazy, either place..... 

[Marsh White]

  (for those who don't know Kakadu, think of mining Yosemite National Park)

Why not put a mine in some place where it won't be noticed, like Coober Pedy?

I just did a quick read of this on wikipedia (granted not everything on wikipedia is factual - but usually the info is moderately accurate):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining_in_Kakadu_National_Park

It seems to me that mining began there as far back as 1956 - and it wasn't made a national park until 1981.  Also - when they made it a national park they specifically excluded the mine: "Technically the site of the Ranger mine and the adjacent Jabiluka area are not part Kakadu National Park, but are completely surrounded by it, as they were specifically excluded when the park was established from 1981."

Hmmm...so, it's not as if a mine was put in a national park as seems to be the thought perpetrated here.  It appears that there was mining going on here for a LONG time - and then finally someone said "hey, this place is really pretty - let's make it a national park - but we make so much money off of the mining - let's leave them alone to do their thing".  And then the hippie community jumped in all Ill informed and outraged.

Anyway - this post is in no way influenced by my friendship by Klavdy - just my own research and opinion.  That said - I really do know jack shit about the issue...perhaps it is more complicated than I realize...

[FJ Flyer]

Gettin' a little off topic, here, eh?   

[Arnie]

The Ranger mine at Jabaluka has been there for a long time.
The current situation is that some (Klavdy's connections?) are trying to establish ANOTHER mine within the park.
There is much more within Kakadu than just pretty vistas.  It is truly a magic place with great cultural and anthropological and heritage significance.  Its World Heritage listing should protect it from any further debasement.
I get angry at those who believe the world is their toilet, so they shit everywhere they go.

Arnie

[mst3kguy]

I get angry at those who believe the world is their toilet, so they shit everywhere they go.

does that include when people throw their cigarette butts out their window?  i don't particularly care for that...

[Arnie]

Yes, it certainly does.  A few years ago the EPA set up a system where if you saw someone littering you could report them and they'd be issued a $500 fine.  If they fought the fine, you would be required to appear against them in court.  I've dobbed in 2 litterers.  One was a stake truck loaded with corrugated cardboard (flattened cartons) that only had a couple of ropes tossed over the top to keep them in place.  However, since it was a very windy day the boxes were flying off with gusto.  I tried flashing the driver but he ignored my flashing for over 15kms. losing cardboard all along the highway.
The other was a fool who tossed a cigarette butt out the window onto the roadside (into dry grass) on a Total Fire Ban day.  (I stopped and extinguished the butt.  Saved me from coming back in a big red truck)
I've previously picked up cig butts and tossed them back into cars.  Fair play for motorcyclists who get ashed and hit frequently, I think.

Cheers,
Arnie
 

I get angry at those who believe the world is their toilet, so they shit everywhere they go.

does that include when people throw their cigarette butts out their window?  i don't particularly care for that...

[Marsh White]

Gettin' a little off topic, here, eh?   

Chris, there is no hope in saving this thread - splitting off various posts, etc.  It is a total clusterfuck already.  I kind of like it that way (just this thread mind you).  Let's see what happens...

[Mark Olson]

does that include when people throw their cigarette butts out their window?  i don't particularly care for that...
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I got nailed for a cigarette ticket in california , ended up costing 400. fine + 8 hrs mandatory community service picking up trash.  However the parks and rec guys being assholes had me dig a hole looking for a sewer pipe.  8hrs digging a hole thru rock sucks.  needless to say I never accidentally dropped a unlit butt out of a car again.

how is that for staying on topic?

[tmkaos]

does that include when people throw their cigarette butts out their window?  i don't particularly care for that...

Ohh i hate that... Nothing like a used butt in your helmet just as you were enjoying the fresh air with the visor up for a second... I make a habit of when lane-feeding in traffic of puling smokes out of peoples hands as they rest them out the window.. Excellent for shits 'n' giggles. Makes me feel better anyway 

[Klavdy]

Calling you names after you called me a pillager?

Alright then, how's "Draft Dodging, Hippy Coward" sound?

That's good form, just call me names, blah blah blah, Hippy nonsense, blah blah, 
Leave it in the fuckin ground you pillager!
blah blah,socialist drivel,blah blah,nimby nimby,blah blah
Kakadu needs to be protected from you and your greedy buddies.
Blah blah, bleat bleat,
Arnie 

The Ranger mine at Jabaluka has been there for a long time.
The current situation is that some (Klavdy's connections?) are trying to establish ANOTHER mine within the park.
There is much more within Kakadu than just pretty vistas.  It is truly a magic place with great cultural and anthropological and heritage significance.  Its World Heritage listing should protect it from any further debasement.
I get angry at those who believe the world is their toilet, so they shit everywhere they go.

Arnie

[FJmonkey]

Calling you names after you called me a pillager?
Alright then, how's "Draft Dodging, Hippy Coward" sound?

You forgot soap dodger...I always loved that one.....