help gratefully received - neutral gear vanished - beginners mistake?

[ENGINEERLARS]

Did you have any luck? An easy way to check if the ball is still in place is to pull ur clutch cover off, take your spring off and pull the actuator top hat looking thing out. I shot my push rod out twice and didn't lose the ball. You can also check and see if your slave is pushing the actuator rod, which in turn will push the clutch spring and release pressure on the plates. The plates could also be stuck.

Yes, I checked, and the ball bearing is still in right position. However, it seems impossible to push rod inwards and even though the slave cylinder is correctly installed and the hydraulic lines free of air it is impossible to disengage the drive. Stuck clutch plates is my guess for the moment. Tried to push the bike back and forth in gear but without any luck. Have tied handlebar and will leave it overnight to see if any changes and if not, I will remove clutch plates during the weekend.

Stupid question time now I know, but.......... when you pull the clutch lever, can you feel the 'normal' resistance against the clutch lever, or can you easily pull the lever all the way back to the bars with little effort ?

I struggled to get my clutch system bled when feeding fluid through from the master cylinder and eventually I connected a pump and tube to the bleed nipple and slowly pumped (Using one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-multi-purpose-mini-pump?_br_psugg_q=laser+pump) fresh brake fluid from the bleed nipple into the slave cylinder and up to the master cylinder - then finished off bleeding as normal - solved my clutch issues in a couple of seconds.

Got dishes out and the were all clogged together in once solid piece. Took me 10 min to break them apart..  Now cleaned,  reinstalled and clutch works again. :-) Thanks for good advises

[krusty]

Did you have any luck? An easy way to check if the ball is still in place is to pull ur clutch cover off, take your spring off and pull the actuator top hat looking thing out. I shot my push rod out twice and didn't lose the ball. You can also check and see if your slave is pushing the actuator rod, which in turn will push the clutch spring and release pressure on the plates. The plates could also be stuck.

Yes, I checked, and the ball bearing is still in right position. However, it seems impossible to push rod inwards and even though the slave cylinder is correctly installed and the hydraulic lines free of air it is impossible to disengage the drive. Stuck clutch plates is my guess for the moment. Tried to push the bike back and forth in gear but without any luck. Have tied handlebar and will leave it overnight to see if any changes and if not, I will remove clutch plates during the weekend.

Stupid question time now I know, but.......... when you pull the clutch lever, can you feel the 'normal' resistance against the clutch lever, or can you easily pull the lever all the way back to the bars with little effort ?

I struggled to get my clutch system bled when feeding fluid through from the master cylinder and eventually I connected a pump and tube to the bleed nipple and slowly pumped (Using one of these http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/laser-multi-purpose-mini-pump?_br_psugg_q=laser+pump) fresh brake fluid from the bleed nipple into the slave cylinder and up to the master cylinder - then finished off bleeding as normal - solved my clutch issues in a couple of seconds.

Got dishes out and the were all clogged together in once solid piece. Took me 10 min to break them apart..  Now cleaned,  reinstalled and clutch works again. :-) Thanks for good advises

No worries. Happy to help.