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1992 rear wheel bearings, which ones to buy?

Started by calstar, December 10, 2015, 10:54:38 AM

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calstar

First post here, have a 92 FJ and am going to replace the rear wheel bearings. What bearings are a good replacement for the oems? I see where I can get the bearings and seals in the "All Balls" kit for about $25, anyone use this kit?  http://www.amazon.com/All-Balls-Bearing-Yamaha-FJ1200/dp/B000UK8BLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449766431&sr=8-1&keywords=fj1200+rear+wheel+bearing

thanks, Brian

FJmonkey

I got my rear, front and steering stem bearings from WWW.RPMracingca.com. They were in stock, shipped quickly and I now have many miles on them.
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Pat Conlon

Hello Brian, welcome to our group.

You need to add a 3rd bearing (for the cush hub aka sprocket hub) to complete the job on your back rim.

Go here and get this kit from RPM: http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ARWBK%28L%29



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I read quite a few mixed reviews about All Balls bearings a year or two ago when I was doing my homework. Many of them centered on the steel being prone to early corrosion. I mean in a matter of months. Some were complete structural meltdowns including coming apart while being tapped in. It's not a true brand but volume no name packaging.
To me a bearing is a universal supply part so I'll spec the bearings and get them locally off the shelf or the next day when I can, with an industrial brand name behind them. However if you want to replace those two seals, I can see where a motorcycle specific kit would be a good choice. An industrial supplier won't likely have those.
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fjfool

i have had good luck with the all balls product so far
honestly, i cant believe they are of the quality of the OEM KOYO bearing- i have replaced many that did not need replaced on 30 year old bikes
i am a strong believer in Japanese product
when i called all balls, they said some of their product is made in Japan and some in China
looks like OEM is still available, gonna be $90-$100 though

calstar

Quote from: fjfool on December 10, 2015, 07:32:54 PM
i have had good luck with the all balls product so far
honestly, i cant believe they are of the quality of the OEM KOYO bearing- i have replaced many that did not need replaced on 30 year old bikes
i am a strong believer in Japanese product
when i called all balls, they said some of their product is made in Japan and some in China
looks like OEM is still available, gonna be $90-$100 though

RPM kit is the all balls kit(but with the third bearing), they state it in the link, hard to beat for $30, and yes it is hard to believe its the same quality as the oem KOYO, (I've used koyos in my lathe). Do you know the bearing number of the KOYOs for the fj??

I'm not even sure the FJ needs new bearings(only 20,200 miles on the bike), but I'm pulling the rear wheel to replace the tire, thought I'd do the bearings as well. For $30 I'd have the bearings on hand if needed and the new seals even if I didn't need the bearings, just clean and repack the old ones

thanks, Brian

calstar

I looked in my Clymers, did not find any bearing specs, anyone know the bearings sizes and type? Searched here for "rear wheel bearing specs" but no results. Also google searched, nothing, I'll try again. Just curious, I'll probably give the RPM All Balls kit a shot.

thanks, Brian

FJ1100mjk

Their coding is in the Yamaha Service Manual.

One in the sprocket carrier is: B6304ZZ

The two in the rim are: B6305ZZ and B6304ZZ

The same numerals as above, are stamped on the All Balls bearings set.

When you punch out the old bearings, you can take them to a bearing distributor and they can match you up with a good known bearing manufacturer, or just go the All Balls route, which is what I've done two times now with no issues.
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FJ Flyer

I've read of some issues with All Balls.  I've got one set of All Balls in the lower steering head.  The bearing that was in their kit for the upper steering head didn't fit, and they were useless for trying to remedy the issue.

I've since used CBR Bearing (http://www.cbrbearing.com/motorcycles_%26_atv%27s.htm) in CA anytime I need wheel bearings, steering head bearings, etc, for my FJ or my FJR.  Charlie is great and knows what you need.  He has has good products from the US or Japan (e.g., Timken).

For a set of bearings I ordered, his shipping charges were minimal.  Although the bearings cost a little more than what you might find on the internet, the lower shipping balanced it out to almost a wash, and you get a quality bearing.
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ribbert

Noel is suspicious of re sellers like this. Their suppliers can change from month to month depending on who can supply stock and the manufacturer unknown. Not saying they are necessarily bad, but there's no guarantee they're good either.

Same goes for fork seals. I know the seals on Noel's bike have around 100,000kms on them even though he now runs the light 5W oil, they are still bone dry, and that's on original bushes.
The seals are not genuine nor are they an exact match for the originals but that's the joy of going to a specialist shop, the guy behind the counter knows his stuff, it's his job.

Noel only buys from professional bearing services, 99.9% of their business is to the trade and industry and is repeat business, they can't afford to sell crap. His current wheel bearings have probably done a 100,000kms.

Andrew
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Good advice. Thanks for filling in for Noel. Hope he is doing well.  Dave
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FJ Flyer

I've bought from CBR over the last 13 years with no issues.  Charlie has been there the entire time.  I will go back again, and plan to do so shortly for a set of rear wheel bearing for the FJR. 

Just a recommendation.  Everyone has to live within their own comfort zone.

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Arnie

One (maybe final) bit of advice.....

If you're replacing the bearings by the bearing numbers 6304 and 6305, ask for 6304=2RS and 6305-2RS.

The -2RS stands for 2 Rubber Seals.  The old spec of ZZ is a metal shield instead.

The rubber works better and keeps the grease clean and inside the bearing where its needed.

Arnie

calstar

A little more searching, found the sizes for the 92 ABS:

52.00x20.00x15.00  left and right rear   6304/2rsc3
62.00x25.00x17.00  cush/hub               6305/2rsc3

Koyo or SKF  6304 2RSC3 are $10-15 on Amazon,  same brands 6305/2rsc3  both around $18 on Amazon with free shipping if you have Amazon Prime. So for not a lot more $ you can get bearings of a known quality. Generic bearings these sizes run around $5 each.

Thanks for all who posted info, much appreciated,  Brian