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School me on fuel pumps.

Started by JPaganel, September 08, 2015, 01:35:42 PM

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JPaganel

I've never had a bike with a fuel pump.

A friend of mine is currently suffering with a Vulcan 1500, which does have one to feed the two carbs it has.

The automotive systems I am familiar with have return lines. How does a carburetor FP work with one line? I don't think there is any electrical means of stopping it when the bowl is full, so do the needle valves just stop the flow and the pump keeps running? Is it just that it's so low pressure, or is there some other mechanism they use?

Also, I vaguely remember hearing there is a generic pump that can be used. Prices for the Kawasaki pump are in the $250 range, and this guy isn't exactly flush.
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

FJmonkey

The fuel pump on an FJ is triggered to run for 3 to 5 seconds when the ignition is turned on, or until full pressure is achieved. Full pressure is the other pump control (about 5 psi). When the pump is not pumping it has a check valve to stop any gravity feed that might take place. There are other pumps that work for the FJ that won't break the bank if your pump craps out. If other pumps exist for the Vulcan, I would think any forum that discusses Vulcans would know about it.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

JPaganel

I think fuel pumps are similar enough. That one also runs for 3 seconds on startup. The carbs are Keihin, and have needle valves very similar to Mikuni, and that seems to me to be the determining factor in pump operation.

I'm not signing up on a Vulcan forum - it's not my bike, and I like it here.  :good2:

1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

FJmonkey

Quote from: JPaganel on September 08, 2015, 02:22:29 PM
I think fuel pumps are similar enough. That one also runs for 3 seconds on startup. The carbs are Keihin, and have needle valves very similar to Mikuni, and that seems to me to be the determining factor in pump operation.

I'm not signing up on a Vulcan forum - it's not my bike, and I like it here.  :good2:

Google is your friend....

http://fjowners.wikidot.com/fuel-pump
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

anson45

Thanks for the information.
I have printed and bookmarked it therefore insuring I will not have a fuel pump failure.
I hope.
Anson
1980 XS650SG (Sold after 24 years of fun.)
1981 XS650H
1983 XVZ1200 (original owner)
1989 FJ1200