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PC Racing FLO Drop In Stainless Steel Oil Filter

Started by FJ1100mjk, February 13, 2015, 04:34:32 AM

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FJ1100mjk

Has anyone here tried out one of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Racing-FLO-Drop-In-Stainless-Steel-Oil-Filter-PC401-/271640760180?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ1100&hash=item3f3f0d0f74&vxp=mtr

Enticing that you wouldn't have to buy any throw-away filters again. However, you'd need to clean out the one that comes with it on occasion.
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Quote from: FJ1100mjk on February 13, 2015, 04:34:32 AM
Has anyone here tried out one of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Racing-FLO-Drop-In-Stainless-Steel-Oil-Filter-PC401-/271640760180?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ1100&hash=item3f3f0d0f74&vxp=mtr

Enticing that you wouldn't have to buy any throw-away filters again. However, you'd need to clean out the one that comes with it on occasion.

Well I guess at $90 including shipping and disposable filters on average at $10, it would take 9 oil changes to break even. Oil change intervals being 5000km that would be 45,000km before you started saving money. How long does it take you to do 45,000kms? and then only save $10!

Arithmetic aside, * IMO any filter that is washable is not up to the job.

Good thought though, but there's a reason they are not in widespread use.

*Usual disclaimer


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FJ1100mjk

^^^ Not sure where you're getting $90 from. I'm seeing $56 USD w/ free shipping. Maybe it's an AU thing.

Oil change intervals are guidelines (within reason of course) in my opinion, and are governed by many variables. I had a vehicles where it was suggested to change oil at intervals that varied greatly between each. They were basically the same technology, oil volumes, and both had dinky oil filter sizes. Off-topic in a ways though.
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That looks like the same basic filter that Scotts was marketing around 15-20 years ago.

I was selling KTM dirt bikes at the time which had very expensive oil filters with very short service intervals. We tried one in our shop bike (LC4 Duke) and later in a RFS race bike. Keep in mind that in the case of the RFS we were changing oil after every race event.

The results on the LC4 which used a spin on type filter were inconclusive. The filter seemed to work OK and looked really cool. but the bike did not rack up enough hard mikes to see any results. I can say that the o-ring seal got pinched and leaked twice when cleaning the oil.

On the RFS the filters were internal and this bike did see regular hard service. After two seasons there was significant wear in the motor in area where this generally was not an issue. The bike was a first year production model which limited data but of all the RFS models I sold it was the only bike that required new crank bearings or an over bore to correct for wear. When I tore the engine down I found significant amounts of sludge in several areas.

Keep in mind that this was a race bike being ridden by a very fast rider so that may have been a factor. I do know that none of the other bikes I sold to racers had this issue and several of them were just as fast around a woods course.

Based on my totally unscientific findings I would not recommend this type of filter.

movenon

Isn't that the same filter that another member use and for some reason it leaked or let go causing some engine damage ? Some comment was made about it should be safety wired. Going from memory so my facts are probably messed up.  But I will say that a WIX spin on filter is under 5.00 and a pretty good filter.
Think I will stick with what I know works. In my mind I would put that filter in the same file as K&N air filters.  :morning1:
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Quote from: FJ1100mjk on February 13, 2015, 04:34:32 AM
Has anyone here tried out one of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Racing-FLO-Drop-In-Stainless-Steel-Oil-Filter-PC401-/271640760180?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ1100&hash=item3f3f0d0f74&vxp=mtr

Enticing that you wouldn't have to buy any throw-away filters again. However, you'd need to clean out the one that comes with it on occasion.

Enticing that you wouldn't have to buy any throw-away filters again.   I think you're trading a "throw-away filter" for a throw-away engine.  Most of your engine wear is from particles between 20 to 2 micron.  That "filter" is only rated to 35 microns. 
I'd suggest leaving the OEM filter housing on w/o a filter.  I think it would have ~ the same effectiveness.

IMHO!

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FJ1100mjk

^ Yes, I think it is enticing to not having to buy throw-away filters again. Merely asking about the product, and if anyone has tried it out.

I have at least four OEM style oil filters in reserve, and I am not planning on diverting from the current arrangement in the near future, or possibly ever for that matter. I never saw the OEM setup as such a huge issue anyways. The spin-on arrangement is nice, but it's not like it changes the oil for you, and takes it to the local auto parts store to be recycled. Still work either way you do it.

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Quote from: FJ1100mjk on February 13, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
^ Yes, I think it is enticing to not having to buy throw-away filters again. Merely asking about the product, and if anyone has tried it out.

I have at least four OEM style oil filters in reserve, and I am not planning on diverting from the current arrangement in the near future, or possibly ever for that matter. I never saw the OEM setup as such a huge issue anyways. The spin-on arrangement is nice, but it's not like it changes the oil for you, and takes it to the local auto parts store to be recycled. Still work either way you do it.


I use the flo reusable filter and have not had an issue, I hate throwing shit in landfill up here. O ring is good an solid(comes with extra oring). I never have to buy another filter again, ever. The micron issue is debatable, my oil gets changed often so not worried about parts per million it also helps disperse a little extra heat from the air cooled lump. My favorite R in the three R`s is re-use.   :hi:

Antonn3

and don't forget the PC Racing FLO Drop In Stainless Steel Oil Filter has an internal magnet attached..

gumby302ho

Quote from: Antonn3 on February 19, 2015, 12:27:31 AM
and don't forget the PC Racing FLO Drop In Stainless Steel Oil Filter has an internal magnet attached..
Exactly, thanks for the reminder, I thought of it 5 min later after my post, having a magnet in the stream of oil helps turn my crank!  :rofl2: