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Started by robbygixxer, September 02, 2011, 07:01:23 AM

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Pat Conlon

Quote from: E Double on September 02, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
..... but an FJ with 17"s is just a bastardized FJ <snip>.... but to what end?  You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge.  And you'll still have that old flexy frame to contend with...... where do you stop?  

Hmmmm, that explains why we don't see Dennis around the Modifications section....

Can I use your quotes?: "a FJ with 17's is just a bastardized FJ"   ooooh, that's quite good.
And this one:  "You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge"....that's a timeless classic.

By chance, do you know a guy named George, from the Sacramento, CA area?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Dan Filetti

Quote from: craigo on September 02, 2011, 09:55:18 PM
Where did you get the $1200 cost for the 17" rear wheel mod?  I spent $350 US for the wheel, brake system and a new Dunlop Roadsmart for my bike.

Just a wild, intentionally high guess. 

To the point then, no way you could buy any Duc, or Aprilia for $350.00

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

1tinindian

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
Quote from: E Double on September 02, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
..... but an FJ with 17"s is just a bastardized FJ <snip>.... but to what end?  You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge.  And you'll still have that old flexi frame to contend with...... where do you stop? 

Hmm, that explains why we don't see Dennis around the Modifications section....

Can I use your quotes?: "a FJ with 17's is just a bastardized FJ"   ooooh, that's quite good.
And this one:  "You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge"....that's a timeless classic.

By chance, do you know a guy named George, from the Sacramento, CA area?

Damn Pat, looks like your 84 is a real POS, when put into those comparisons!
Seeing as how you have to rebuild that wreck, you just as well return it to stock 1984 specs!

NAAAA! I'm just shittin ya! LOL!

I can't wait to do my 17 rear conversion, if not for any reason other than I like the looks of the wider tire!

Leon
"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

Pat Conlon

Leon, in the meantime buy this front 3.5" wide rim...it's plug and play.

--- In yamahafj@yahoogroups.com, Denis Duchene <dduchene@...> wrote:
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> Hey this buy it now is a pretty good deal. This is the wheel that can be used on the 89 and latter front ends with the FJ rotors to give you a 3.5 inch front wheel. I have one a love it. They are kind of hard to come buy
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> Denis

http://tinyurl.com/3jtu3on

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-FZR1000-front-wheel-/270796839069?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f0cbfd89d#ht_500wt_862
>
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

RichBaker

Quote from: Dan Filetti on September 02, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
Quote from: E Double on September 02, 2011, 07:23:37 AM
Besides, if I had the coin to do all of the upgrades needed for this bike to support 17" sneakers I'd rather put that money into another bike to go along with this one.  Like an Aprilia Dorsoduro or Duc Hypermotard.  I'm just sayin'

Seriously??!!  17" in conversions, maybe what, $1200 out of pocket -tops -probably less.   No way you'd get either an Aprilia Dorsoduro or Duc Hypermotard for anything close to that money.

Most folks here would say that upgrading to 17" rubber is a worthwhile upgrade.  Improves handling, and opens up an awful lot more qaulity tire (tyre for you) choices.

Dan



If you include the tires.....  Just for the wheel ass'ys, I have ~$350-400 in.  Including new bearings and brake pads.....
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

andyb

With the difference in cost between sport touring tires in 16 and 17" sizes, I recouped the money from doing the rear swap within two changes.  If you include the fact that the modern tires aren't total crap like the older ones and will last so much longer, then I made the money back with my first tire change.

Did the 17" conversion when I was pretty well broke, and part of my consideration was the amount of money it'd save vs running old-tech tires.  Very worth it economically, nevermind that it looks and works better.

E Double

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
Quote from: E Double on September 02, 2011, 08:17:53 PM
..... but an FJ with 17"s is just a bastardized FJ <snip>.... but to what end?  You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge.  And you'll still have that old flexy frame to contend with...... where do you stop?  

Hmmmm, that explains why we don't see Dennis around the Modifications section....

Can I use your quotes?: "a FJ with 17's is just a bastardized FJ"   ooooh, that's quite good.
And this one:  "You just took a nice bike with character and turned it into a hodgepodge"....that's a timeless classic.

By chance, do you know a guy named George, from the Sacramento, CA area?

I don't know a George from Sac, and cheers for waiting for me to reply to use them.

Look Pat, your bike is pretty to be sure, so props to you for getting it that way and keeping it so.  More power to anyone who wants to do anything they want with to their own stuff using their own money.  I'm good with just keeping my bike looking good and running well so I keep putting 15K miles a year on it.  So how about we don't turn this into a dead horse, umkay?  Cheers for that.
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating: people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
  
    Oscar Wilde

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Pat Conlon

No worries Dennis. You know I'm just yanking your chain. There are not to many 1984's left in oem condition, kudos to you...

My final thought: Evolution forces change. For better or worse, it's debatable.
When you find your supply of 120/80-16 and 150/80-16 bias-ply rubber extinct, you will be forced to consider change.

Cheers lad!
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

E Double

I run the Avon radials.

Something tells me that as long as folks have old airheads and pre radial tire sports cars and old muscle cars there will be tires available to put on them.

That there will be fuel to use in in all of these combustion engines down the line is a completely different matter all together...
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating: people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
  
    Oscar Wilde

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tqmx1

Hay Pat, And just to shock you a bit  George is going with a 17/5.5 rear conversion seeing as he can pick up Real good 180/55s with one little hole in them DIRT CHEEP   :dash1: :dash2:

axiom-r

I dunno....   I am not going to try to make my FJ perform "as well as" an R1 but I have certainly improved the bike hugely....  When you look at this you see character loss?  If so then I love my low character Hodge-podge!!


What about this one.... Early 70's bike with late 90's suspension and wheels etc....  Massive improvement.



Both of these bikes are character enhanced from my point of view.... Unless you are going to keep a pristine stock bike as a show piece or whatever then tasteful modification and improvement IS the character of your machine.....  as parts wear out don't you automatically consider aftermarket upgrades- even as typical as tire selection etc... to me this makes the machine a reflection of the owner's decisions.... isn't that the character?
1992 FJ1200 w 2007 R1 Front & Rear

craigo

You know, if you're keeping the 84 stock for the sake of it becoming a classic bike like the old CB750s and KZ1000s, you may have a point.  The 1st year FJ was quite an upgrade to what was out there at the time.  And if it's eventual value as a classic is what concerns you, I would make the mods to the 17"ers and store the 16" parts to revert it back to stock for show or sale.

Alot of us have 16 inch wheels and we have no idea what to do with them.  Mine just sits on jackstands in the corner of the garage and mocks me :crazy:
CraigO
90FJ1200