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Started by twangin4u, April 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM

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racerrad8

Quote from: FJools on April 18, 2016, 05:15:06 PM
How long in the cleaner and at what temperature for carbs?

Thats something that I found little info on.............

Time varies by the condition of the carbs.

I have never checked the temp of my cleaner, but I know you can't hold the parts when they come out with bare hands.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

jscgdunn

Even without heat it they work well.  The element on our cheapy burned out pretty quickly but it still works...just take longer.  About two hours.  The ultrasonic action actually warms the water up quite a bit.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

JMR

 Have any of you fellas tried a solution of the Yamaha carb cleaner in the sonic cleaner? I have had very good luck with the carb cleaner over the past 20 years but I haven't used it in the sonic cleaner tank. I haven't found it to mess up the exterior either.

racerrad8

Quote from: jscgdunn on April 19, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Even without heat it they work well.  The element on our cheapy burned out pretty quickly but it still works...just take longer.  About two hours.  The ultrasonic action actually warms the water up quite a bit.

Well, since I have a 2.5 gallon cleaner it would take forever to generate any heat via the ultrasonic motion.

Also, the Crest soap requires heat to work properly.

Operating Conditions
Chem-Crest 235 is typically used at 5 - 10% by volume in
ultrasonic applications. Normal operating temperatures:
120 - 180°F, dependent on the material makeup of the
substrate, and the contaminants being removed.
Contact your Crest representative for product-line
specific recommendations. Recommended rinsing water
temperature: 120 - 150°F.


I have heard of all kinds of concoctions people use in their cleaners from Ammonia to Simple Green to lye based drain cleaners.

I use the cleaning solution based on the proper application of the carb material I am working on. I cannot chance damaging a single carb.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

jscgdunn

Quote from: racerrad8 on April 19, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on April 19, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Even without heat it they work well.  The element on our cheapy burned out pretty quickly but it still works...just take longer.  About two hours.  The ultrasonic action actually warms the water up quite a bit.

Well, since I have a 2.5 gallon cleaner it would take forever to generate any heat via the ultrasonic motion.

Also, the Crest soap requires heat to work properly.

Operating Conditions
Chem-Crest 235 is typically used at 5 - 10% by volume in
ultrasonic applications. Normal operating temperatures:
120 - 180°F, dependent on the material makeup of the
substrate, and the contaminants being removed.
Contact your Crest representative for product-line
specific recommendations. Recommended rinsing water
temperature: 120 - 150°F.


I have heard of all kinds of concoctions people use in their cleaners from Ammonia to Simple Green to lye based drain cleaners.

I use the cleaning solution based on the proper application of the carb material I am working on. I cannot chance damaging a single carb.

Randy - RPM

Yes wish ours still heated.....again, I just use Sunlight soap...would much prefer the product above.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Motofun

Old topic..but...I'm degunking my '89 carbs and I rebeled at over $100 for the super-duper carb cleaner that RPM uses.  I have an old can of Berryman's carb cleaner that I put in my heated ultrasonic device.  I'm cooking the first carb as I write.  I'm curious to see if the ultrasonic with the Berryman's does a decent job.
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'85 Yamaha RZ350
'85 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'09 Yamaha 125 Zuma
'09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids)
'13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track)
'14 Yamaha FZ-09
'23 Yamaha Tenere 7
SOLD: CBX,RZ500,Ninja 650,CB400F,V45 Sabre,CB700SC,R1,GSXR1000R

Pat Conlon

Jack, is Berryman's flammable? 

I know Randy&Robert uses a special cleaner in their unit that does not eat aluminum. (Read:expensive)

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RPM - Robert

If it's the Berrymans chemdip it should be good to about 200f before ignition. Good stuff but not available in the "great" state of California anymore. Actually did an older Holley 4 barrel in these last week as the stuff we use darkens really old pot cast aluminum for some reason. I think Ron's boat carb was a Guinea pig on this and we found that out the hard way. Cleaned it great but it discolored that 60 year old pot cast aluminum.

The FJ carb bodies and newer 4 barrel stuff has no issue with the chem crest we use but when doing older stuff the it did have an issue.

Anyways the berrymans works great without heat. If we could get it in California it would probably be a go to.

Motofun

Just finished the process.  Berryman's in the ultrasonic at 140 degrees worked good.  When I drained the cleaner there was a decent amount of crap in the bottom.  Here's hoping that everything worked the way it's supposed to.
PS.  I bought 2 gallons of the Berryman's in my local Walmart about 5 years ago.  I don't know if they still sell it but it's gets listed on the Googles.
'75 Honda CB400F
'85 Yamaha RZ350
'85 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'09 Yamaha 125 Zuma
'09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids)
'13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track)
'14 Yamaha FZ-09
'23 Yamaha Tenere 7
SOLD: CBX,RZ500,Ninja 650,CB400F,V45 Sabre,CB700SC,R1,GSXR1000R