Rpm brake light with integrated turn signal wanted

[Isaiah1611]

Rpm seems to be out of these lights. I want to delete the long rear turn signals

[FJmonkey]

You could remove the stem and use a smaller lamp.

[Isaiah1611]

I am thinking about it but I haven't found any that look that great

[fj1289]

You can use a trailer light converter to do it.  Several years ago I rolled a how-to on a Hayabusa website.

[Isaiah1611]

Do you have a link by any chance?

[giantkiller]

Yes I want a couple of them.

[Sparky84]

Rpm seems to be out of these lights. I want to delete the long rear turn signals

Check in with Timothy to see what he's done.
I like the long ones (they can be seen easily) but I'm always bumping into them

https://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=20512.0

[Millietant]

I'll be a bit controversial here, but WTH !!!!!

Integrated tail light/turn signal units make it basically impossible for a driver behind to understand which way you're actually signaling to turn !!

There's a reason turn signals are on stalks and that's to get them away from the centre line of the bike, so that someone behind you can see which way you're indicating to turn. It's also especially important on a bike that that your turn signal is a different colour to your brake light, again so that a driver knows that a turn signal is actually being deployed - and that's especially important now, when some vehicles come standard with flashing brake lights to indicate hard braking (as a safety feature).

Imagine the scene, you're approaching a junction on your bike with an integrated tail unit, you're going to turn left, you brake, push your turn signal switch to the left and then, just as you make the left turn, a car from behind slams into you as they overtake you.

The driver saw your brake light come on and saw you slow down, but there was no clear indication you intended to turn left (as all they saw was a pulsing "brake" light, on the centre line of the bike), so the driver decided to pass you...............

Don't do it.....don't fit an integrated brake/turn signal unit, they're just plain dangerous.

They're illegal here and with good reason. We have a minimum distance requirement for rear turn signals, to ensure separation for the simple reason of making it clearer to following drivers/riders that we are indicating our intention to turn and make it safer for us as riders. That particular rule was introduced after a spate of incidents just as I described (although they were right turns here in the UK, as we drive on the left side of the road, not the right).

You might think I have an unreasonably strong view on this, but in the late 1980's a friend was paralysed from the waist down and his wife was killed, while they were travelling with us on tour in mainland Europe, by a vehicle doing just as I described (and catapulting them both off their FJ 1200) when their turn signal was partially obscured by a wrapped tent bungee'd on top of a pannier and they were slowing to turn left (the driver only saw the brake light as the turn signal was not properly visible to indicate their intention to turn left, so he assumed they were just slowing and started to pass them, just as they turned left) -  so please, for your own safety, DO NOT fit one of those integrated units. Keep your turning intentions clear to all behind you.

[Millietant]

My bike has a Krauser K2 luggage system fitted, so the turn signals are built into the pannier mount frames.

I also have extra bright LED Stop & Tail bulbs, so its even more important that my turn signals are easily distinguishable when I'm slowing to turn.