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Started by Urban_Legend, September 18, 2017, 06:00:41 AM

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Urban_Legend

Hey FJ Hooligan
Skipped a tooth may have been the wrong expression. You are right it is more likely that the cam chain has stretched and the timing is out. I just used the first expression that came to mine when trying to describe the issue. I hope to be able to investigate it further tonight.
From the info I have. The 1100 motor has about 90k km on it. It was from a bike that was stolen and then recovered. I know that it had been given a hard time whilst in the hands of the offenders. I now have confirmation that my carbs are NOT the issue ( installed on another bike and it ran fine) with my lack of power and running issues. So we came back to the Cams and Timing.

Mark
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

oldktmdude

   Thanks Mark, when I made the comment about the cam timing being out by 1 tooth, I was inferring that a previous owner had mis-timed
the cam during some work being done to it. You mentioned that the bike hadn't performed well since you bought it so obviously it had a problem
since day one of your ownership. Alf's 1100 had very similar issues to yours and the problem turned out to be a miss-timed cam.
   Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Urban_Legend

I spent the last few days swapping various bits from the 1100 to the 1200 motor. Swapped the clutch (1100 one is new) and the detent kit. Also had to swap the ignition pick up for the 1100 over to match the CDI.

Got her all buttoned up. Now Sparkles is now officially a 1200. I took her for a 20km shake down ride. Took her gentle for the first few blocks listening or any noises. Nope none. Actually it was a bit unnerving how quite this motor is compared to the old 1100. Not starter chain rattle. Quite tappets. Got out of town and fed it to her, a bit tentatively at first, but then I gave her a fist full in second then third.......wow holy crap. There's my missing 30hp. Zooming past 140 in third right out to red line. I must say it is so nice not having to granny shift out of second. The other thing is this motor is so smooth compared to the 1100. Glanced at the speedo at one stage and the needle was very quickly heading towards 200. Crap. Slow her down. Home again after 20km no leaks and nothing fell off. Big smile. Kookaloo.
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Sparky84

Quote from: Urban_Legend on April 15, 2018, 01:59:13 AM
I spent the last few days swapping various bits from the 1100 to the 1200 motor. Swapped the clutch (1100 one is new) and the detent kit. Also had to swap the ignition pick up for the 1100 over to match the CDI.

Got her all buttoned up. Now Sparkles is now officially a 1200. I took her for a 20km shake down ride. Took her gentle for the first few blocks listening or any noises. Nope none. Actually it was a bit unnerving how quite this motor is compared to the old 1100. Not starter chain rattle. Quite tappets.

No noises, quiet tappets, NO starter chain rattle !!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT have you done Mark?  :nea:

Its not a FJ Without those. 
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

Urban_Legend

No noises, quiet tappets, NO starter chain rattle !!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT have you done Mark?  :nea:

Its not a FJ Without those.  

I know. Thought I must have stuffed up and put a Suzuki motor in it for a bit, then realized it was still running.
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

fj-f3a

Whats OEM?

Owner Engineered Modifications.
Wings Level

Current
1990 FJ1200, Wet Pale Brown
J17xMT5.5 rear wheel from a 2001 Kawasaki Zx9r
Stainless exhausts
Electronic cruise control
Custom seat
Yamaha R6 Blue Spot Callipers
FJR1300 Master Cylinder
Stainless brake lines

Urban_Legend

I like your thinking.
Found out today the NSW  bike rego has changed. No longer done by engine capacity. Flat fee for all bikes. Only green slip is different now. I do have to get a blue slip for Sparkles now with the different motor in it.

Mark
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Pat Conlon

Congrats Mark :good2: She is beautiful and lucky to have you as her owner.

Pat
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Urban_Legend

Thanks Pat

I need to get myself another project so i can leave this bike alone.
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Old Rider

You have done a superb job Mark looks very nice.I know how much work laying behind a result like this because i have done exatly the same work last summer when i repainted mine.
First you think that the job is going to be quick but then there is sanding filling out chips with putty sanding cleaning priming sanding priming sanding basecoat topcoat clearcoat decals clercote sanding clearcoat wetsanding and polishing cleaning  and hours of masking . :morning1:

Tuned forks

I agree with Old Rider, paint jobs often take way longer than expected.

Urban_Legend, that VHT engine paint looks outstanding.  Such gloss!  Congrats on being a 1200 convert.  I only heard my valvetrain noise after adjusting the valves and getting my ears down next to the cylinder head.  Great work, I agree you need another project.
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket

Urban_Legend

Thanks all. You will all be happy to know that I have left the bike alone since the great case splitting debacle. Just enjoying riding it to her new limits. Been exploring the outer edge of the tyres for the first time ever. Only job to do is to finish fixing the right side air scoop and reinstall.
I have found a nice little 92 FJ project bike from a mate. Just some fine details, like payment and transportation, but at least he isn't in a rush to move it out of his shed.
With Sparkles being a long way from standard, my plan is to keep this one fairly original.
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Troyskie

Mark are you joining the Ambulance Brigade? Or are you going to give Xray a run for the chook?  :drinks: :drinks:
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

Urban_Legend

It's Xray's 92 that I am going to buy, so no ambulance for me
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Troyskie

1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)