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I need a new top box

Started by FJmonkey, February 28, 2016, 07:22:55 PM

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FJmonkey

I lost my top box yesterday on the freeway. I made the same run this morning with zero luck in finding it. Nothing of real value inside it (1 lb of Thermite), just the box its self. :dash2: :dash2: :dash2: I have the GIVI rack so a GIVI box or equivalent will work. I will be making my own searches but thought to reach out to my FJ peeps.

My lost box was a small scooter box so I can now upgrade to a larger box and carry more Thermite.  :biggrin:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

aviationfred

I use a GIVI knockoff of the E470. You can pick up real GIVI E470 on eBay for just over $200.00. It will fit 2 helmets.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIVI-E470N-Simply-III-Monolock-Topcase-Flat-Black-/191355625257?hash=item2c8daf1f29:g:YoMAAOSw-jhULFxH&vxp=mtr

Here is a photo of mine. It is a knockoff, but it is about as close to authentic as possible.



George has a Cooscase. He bought his through Twisted Throttle, but they are no longer available there. Here is George's write up on his top box.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10961.0

I did find them for sale at another site.

https://mishacycles.com/store/Coocase-S50-Astra-topcase-Basic-edition-matte-black.html

Here looks like an inexpensive GIVI knockoff

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extra-Large-Detachable-Motorcycle-Trunk-Light-Heavy-Duty-Mounting-Plate-/201414633078?hash=item2ee53f6676:g:g~8AAOSwa39Urukl&vxp=mtr

Here is one that looks like mine. It says 42L, mine is a 47L. I would say it is a 47 and will fit 2 helmets. Less than $140.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-ABS-plastic-motorcycle-trunk-Large-42-liters-in-volume-Vivid-Black-/251732018129?hash=item3a9c65c3d1:g:NlEAAOSwxH1UB8Em&vxp=mtr

Fred








I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Capn Ron

Mark,

How did that end up flying off the back of your FJ??

I think I recall correctly that you *had* a Givi "Monolock" top case?  If that's true, most of these other suggestions are for the "Monokey" top cases.  You'll need to change out your top plate.

That being said, I think it's more appropriate anyway that the Monkey rides with a Mon(o)key... :good2:
Cap'n Ron. . .


There are two types of people in the world...Those who put people into categories...and those who don't.

4everFJ

Be aware that most of the scooter/moped top boxes are not built to be used on a motorcycle.

The fastening system simply can't cope with the wind pressure at high speeds.

Some time ago there was an article in a motorcycle magazine (can't remember which) where they tested moped top boxes on motorcycles with very poor results...
1985 - Yamaha FJ1100 36Y
1978 - Yamaha SR500
1983 - Kawasaki GPZ550 (sold)
1977 - Kawasaki Z400 (sold)

Bones

They don't have to be cheap small scooter type boxes either for the fastening system to fail. I came across a factory fitted top box on the road a while ago that came off an FJR1300.

The lid was open and the contents strewn all over the road, but the catch that holds it on was still locked. I was told later by the owner its apparently a known fault with them. I have followed one before and noticed the box bobbing up and down while travelling, looks very flimsy.
93 fj1200
79 suzuki gt250x7


Too young to be old but old enough to know better.

X-Ray

Yep, that's why I always travel with a luggage strap around each pannier, there's no way that pannier or top box is coming off the rack unless I want it to. Bit more hassle but it's worth it. Sorry you lost your box Monkey
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

Capn Ron

Quote from: X-Ray on March 09, 2016, 03:50:07 AM
Yep, that's why I always travel with a luggage strap around each pannier, there's no way that pannier or top box is coming off the rack unless I want it to. Bit more hassle but it's worth it. Sorry you lost your box Monkey

Thanks for this...you now have me thinking of a secondary "safety" strap of some kind.  My side cases are more secure than my top case (all Givi)...Being molded plastic, I do get a bit of bobbing up and down on that top case.  I've fiddled with various shimming methods underneath the case to mitigate this, but nothing has been and end-all solution.  Might think about adding a couple of structural ribs on the interior.
Cap'n Ron. . .


There are two types of people in the world...Those who put people into categories...and those who don't.

X-Ray

I just use something like these Ron, adjust to the right length so the strap is tight around the rack and around the case, ( I have handles on my Givis, so through the handle), and click it in tight. Good peace of mind, get the black ones though , not fluoro yellow unless you want to :)

http://www.bunnings.com.au/grunt-180-x-5cm-luggage-strap-2-pack_p4310679

'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

Capn Ron

Quote from: X-Ray on March 09, 2016, 04:57:36 AM
I just use something like these Ron, adjust to the right length so the strap is tight around the rack and around the case, ( I have handles on my Givis, so through the handle), and click it in tight. Good peace of mind, get the black ones though , not fluoro yellow unless you want to :)

http://www.bunnings.com.au/grunt-180-x-5cm-luggage-strap-2-pack_p4310679



I like it!  I make these from bulk webbing and use them for all sorts of things on the sailboat.  Quick and easy!
Cap'n Ron. . .


There are two types of people in the world...Those who put people into categories...and those who don't.

FJmonkey

Quote from: X-Ray on March 09, 2016, 04:57:36 AM
I just use something like these Ron, adjust to the right length so the strap is tight around the rack and around the case, ( I have handles on my Givis, so through the handle), and click it in tight. Good peace of mind, get the black ones though , not fluoro yellow unless you want to :)
http://www.bunnings.com.au/grunt-180-x-5cm-luggage-strap-2-pack_p4310679
This is a great idea, I had already thought of using an additional strap and your post is very similar to what I had in mind.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

moparman70

Mark --- I have just what you need and will save the straps --- they are wide straps like the picture with plastic clips. 

Next time we ride remind me to bring a couple along.

Scc
     

X-Ray

Heres a couple of pics, loaded up ready to head off the next morning to the Australian Rally,  :good2:   Straps on!

'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

FJmonkey

Time to wrap up this thread, I have a new box and really like it. The old box was smaller and required the key and lever to either open or remove the box. The new box has two options independent with the key. GIVI E470N Simply III Monolock Topcase. GIVI clearly makes some quality products. I can lock my helmet and other assorted bits. The guy in front of me can lock up his Latte and a barking rat...

I also found out that RPM is a GIVI dealer after I made the purchase, I will be sending Randy my order for a lock core and some rubber bumpers.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

aviationfred

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor