For what it's worth.

[fjfool]

well, i was in the same boat- bought the filters and forgot to order the oil (or the cleaning kit for that matter)
went to a local guy and he raved about this product
cleans in the sink (i like that), its what he sells when people ask for his recommendation

[fjfool]

then, i visit here and see this thread
so i call "notoil"
the tech was very specific telling me NOT to use this oil on "uni" brand filters
he said it contains alcohol and they have seen it cause problems on "uni" filters
he said they make a specific product for uni that comes in a green label bottle

i will probly just bite the bullet and shelf this one and buy the correct product sold by the manufacturer of the filter

i also had an interesting conversation with the guy that sold me this stuff about the product in aerosol cans
he said they have to use alot of solvent mixed with the filter oil to get it to flow thru the tiny orifice of the spray can nozzle
this seems logical to my feeble mind but, what do i know, i'm just a sparky
anyone with any input, experience with the "notoil" products?

[the fan]

I run uni filters in all of my off road machines. My go to is and (has been for 15+ years) PJ1 spray on oil and cleaner.

I usually get 50+ cleanings before the filters start to get worn, but that may be due to the frequent cleaning (every ride).

I used No Toil for a while when I won a free case of the stuff and it seemed to work well. Relatively easy to clean and seemed to trap a lot of dirt/dust. I just preferred the ease of the PJ1 products. I never had an issue with a dirt bike filter that was not related to my somewhat ham fisted cleaning methods.

As far as long term use, I recently pulled the filter out of my YZ250 2 stroke supermoto which has been sitting for 3 years due to a seized crank (unrelated to dirt... I low sided the bike early in a race and did not realize that it was leaking coolant...)  The filter was still fairly tacky and I would not hesitate to run it as is.

For the record, I currently work in the auto industry, and formerly worked in or owned businesses in the MC industry. Every offroad machine sold has a foam filter, or in the case of some ATV/UTV machines, a foam wrap over a cotton or paper filter. I often wonder why they do this when it obviously does not trap dirt...

[Flynt]

I used No Toil for a while...

That's what I use on the ITG foam filters I have.  Combined with the No Toil cleaner, the stuff is pretty easy to deal with.  You can see it on a dark foam when sprayed on and the cleaner takes the dirt and oil out easily with a short soak.  Fully biodegradable and water based cleanup.  ITG filters say "don't use water to clean as it will soften the adhesives and make the filter fall apart" basically, but Rebello recommended it and my filters last until I start getting breakdown of the outer foam...  from smog exposure I'd guess.

Anyway...  +1 on No Toil spray on oil and No Toil cleaner for ITG filters.  I don't use it on the Uni filters though...  what I use is one of my (many) tuning secrets...

Frank

[Pat Conlon]

*thread drift alert*

Speaking of secrets, Frank, what cams are you going to?

[Flynt]

Frank, what cams are you going to?

Web Cam 80-291...  very similar to the Megacycles, but slightly less lift (.35 vs .375).  This will allow use of upgraded valve seals.  The Megacycles required stock seals and those puppies were cooked, probably from the dyno tuning exercise.  Megacycle turns out to be a headache to deal with, best avoided I'd say.  I hope to save the dyno rework until Randy finally sells me his EFI setup and lets me go get it turned.

Any of you guys going up (or down) to RPM anytime soon will see Wiz sitting there with engine out again.  Good news is it will be full effect by the WCR...  and with a fresh silver paint job!

Frank

[ZOA NOM]

I'm heading out there Saturday, Frank. I'll leave a quart of my special oil under your seat.

[Flynt]

I'll leave a quart of my special oil under your seat...

To be clear, I'm not that kind of guy...  Not that there's anything wrong with it, but share your "special oil" with your significant other please...  and hands off my seat!  

Frank

[Flynt]

Frank, what cams are you going to?

Web Cam 80-291...  

After a bit more research, I'm worried these cams will be too mild compared to the Megacycles I'm tuned for...  the grinds they offer with similar timing and duration are even higher lift.  I'm going to call Web Cams today and get their advice.  

Frank

[ribbert]

.....Every offroad machine sold has a foam filter, or in the case of some ATV/UTV machines, a foam wrap over a cotton or paper filter. I often wonder why they do this when it obviously does not trap dirt...

And so they should, that is exactly the environment where foam filters are the best choice. Paper filters alone will not cope with off road conditions.

Noel

[ZOA NOM]

I'll leave a quart of my special oil under your seat...

To be clear, I'm not that kind of guy...  Not that there's anything wrong with it, but share your "special oil" with your significant other please...  and hands off my seat!   

Frank

Now THATS funny!