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Brembo calipers standard? And front spring rates..

Started by tmkaos, December 10, 2009, 05:13:39 PM

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tmkaos

Quote from: tmkaos on December 10, 2009, 07:16:39 PM

Hey thanks for that, I'll have a look into the forks, they are away at the mo having the seals and awaiting some springs when the guy gets to it. I think the forks are standard, I've got a clymer manual off the net, and all the pics look pretty similiar to what I've got.. Good info on the spring rates, can't remember the brand name of the ones the guy had in stock but they were American.

Grrr.. got some sucky news, just heard back from my suspension guy, he's pulled my shocks apart and they are A: stuffed, the chrome tubes are rusted and pitted, B: already modified with heavier springs! They have .95's in them already so I'm going to go to 15w oil for now, throw some new seals at it and look for another set of forks I can do up in the mean time.. BTW, found out when the shocks got taken apart that the last guy i got to do them left out the damn circlips on the oil seals! Dodgy much?!
On a better note I've just finished playing with my FJ1200 logo and it looks like this... I can put up the file if any one knows someone with a cnc to machine it or if you're in NZ talk to me we can sort something out :-)


'92 FJ1200 - '07 to present
'83 VF750S Sabre - '04 - '07
'87 VT250FG - '94 - '98

SlowOldGuy

Don't take this personally, but if you're that good with machinery then you should be doing your own fork work.  That way the clip wouldn't get forgotten.  A few cheap tools is all you need, PVC seal driver, 10mm allen wrench, 18mm bolt and socket damper rod holder.

Also, heavier oil will slow the fork action down, but it will still dive just as far as it does now.  It will just take a fraction of a second longer to get there, but it will still get there.

DavidR.

tmkaos

Yeah I will next time. To be honest it was a time pressure thing before Xmas, and I hadn't discovered this site. I knew there was specialised tools you needed but I didn't know they could be made very easily until I had a look around on here. I'm going to have to look for another set of forks and rebuild them, or get mine re-chromed. It's a bit hard to get the correct material for the tubes apparently or I'd have a look for some and turn another set up. Never mind  :yes: As long as I can keep the old girl rolling a bit longer... I'm going to be very interested to see what the old boy that did the seals last time's excuse will be for forgetting the circlips though... I know it would take a lot to dislodge the seals but still, I think it's pretty dangerous none the less
'92 FJ1200 - '07 to present
'83 VF750S Sabre - '04 - '07
'87 VT250FG - '94 - '98

RichBaker

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on December 18, 2009, 09:16:27 AM
Don't take this personally, but if you're that good with machinery then you should be doing your own fork work.  That way the clip wouldn't get forgotten.  A few cheap tools is all you need, PVC seal driver, 10mm allen wrench, 18mm bolt and socket damper rod holder.

Also, heavier oil will slow the fork action down, but it will still dive just as far as it does now.  It will just take a fraction of a second longer to get there, but it will still get there.

DavidR.

Yep, if you want to reduce frt end dive under braking, reduce the air volume....the air acts as a progressive spring at the end of fork travel. You do this by increasing the amount of oil in the fork tube.
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

tmkaos

Funnily enough just yesterday my tame suspension guru and I had a discussion on how much oil goes in... the clymer manual I have says 466mls or 15.75 ounces for you imperialists. Any ideas on how much more I should go?
'92 FJ1200 - '07 to present
'83 VF750S Sabre - '04 - '07
'87 VT250FG - '94 - '98

racerman_27410

Quote from: tmkaos on December 19, 2009, 05:40:51 AM
Funnily enough just yesterday my tame suspension guru and I had a discussion on how much oil goes in... the clymer manual I have says 466mls or 15.75 ounces for you imperialists. Any ideas on how much more I should go?


i usually go by oil height rather than volume.

like 6  to 6.5 inches from the top of the fork tube with the springs out and tubes all the way down in the sliders.


Kookaloo!


Frank

threejagsteve

Well, I decided to just split a quart of ATF between 'em and call it good.
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

RichBaker

Quote from: racerman_27410 on December 19, 2009, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: tmkaos on December 19, 2009, 05:40:51 AM
Funnily enough just yesterday my tame suspension guru and I had a discussion on how much oil goes in... the clymer manual I have says 466mls or 15.75 ounces for you imperialists. Any ideas on how much more I should go?


i usually go by oil height rather than volume.

like 6  to 6.5 inches from the top of the fork tube with the springs out and tubes all the way down in the sliders.


Kookaloo!


Frank

I run mine at 130mm.....
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

tmkaos

Good news.... I have just got my apparently not-so-stock shocks back from my guru, fitted and quickly road-tested this avo... What an improvement!! Thanks to all you guys for your input and advice, what I've ended up with is proper NOK Yamaha seals, circlips installed this time! 15W oil with a smaller air gap, .90kg springs and the damping set better.. feels great.. Will be taking it for a better test in the new year to try her on the open road but feels like good things will be happening in the kookaloo department in NZ this holiday season.

The skinny on the missing circlips is that the last plonker I had do the seals fitted absolutely crap quality ones that were too tall and covered the circlip groove - so he's just left them out.. I mean like, WTF?  :dash2:
I will be talking to him in the new year  :ireful:

In the mean time anybody in Auckland NZ who needs shock work done I highly reccommend Norm at Suspension Tech, Ellerslie. He da man  :good:

www.suspensiontech.com

Merry Xmas and a happy New Year!!!


Kookaloo!!
'92 FJ1200 - '07 to present
'83 VF750S Sabre - '04 - '07
'87 VT250FG - '94 - '98