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Why is the acronym 'ABS' used in the same sentence as 'clutch?'

Started by JoBrCo, July 28, 2014, 12:43:01 PM

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JoBrCo

I've just received my Galfer clutch SS lines.  When I ordered them the Ebay part nomenclature mentioned Non-ABS, and I paid not much attention, as I thought, "of course, it doesn't even apply; ignorant vendor!"  Then today I noticed the package has a sticker over another sticker, that  I can't read due to the sticker on top, that says "YAM. FJ1100 ABS Clutch 1984."  The proper OEM part number is also printed, FK003D447CL.  But since this is a sticker, of the same exact size and type over a sticker I can't read, and ABS seems to not fit the picture, I'm left wondering, WTF!!

Anyone have a clue as to what's going on, and if I should be concerned, maybe a return?

TIA

JoBrCo
1985 FJ1100NC



"To 'truly' see the man in the mirror, the only way for the image to be clear, as the man then 'truly' grows" --JoBrCo--

'I only know that I know nothing' --Socrates--

Flynt

Quote from: JoBrCo on July 28, 2014, 12:43:01 PM
I've just received my Galfer clutch SS lines. 

Not sure what you ordered, but you can just replace the entire flex/hard/flex line with a single SS line and eliminate 2 joints and potential leak areas...  you might want to evaluate that option and order a custom line to pursue it.

No idea how ABS impacts the clutch line(s) in either case. 

Frank
There's plenty of time for sleep in the grave...

JoBrCo

Thanks Frank, but I seem to be already committed here, and will require an error on their part, to feel good about a return, not to mention I can't afford any wasted money at all, on shipping or restocking fees.  :cray:  But now that you mention it, a definitely sound bit of reasoning on your part!  Hind sight, always 20/20!  :dash2:

Yes the ABS mess's with my mind too!

Thanks again for your time and trouble.

Have a good one!  :drinks:

JoBrCo



P.S. FOR ALL:  I also screwed up on that P/N I mentioned, it's Galfers not Yamaha OEM.
1985 FJ1100NC



"To 'truly' see the man in the mirror, the only way for the image to be clear, as the man then 'truly' grows" --JoBrCo--

'I only know that I know nothing' --Socrates--

the fan

Most Likely the "ABS" wording is being used to designate the model and not the presense of ABS. This would help with order confusion by parts guys who have limited knowledge of all the different models. I would suspect that if you do a search for your year ABS and non ABS you will find the same part number on the clutch line.

FJ_Hooligan

I have yet to see a replacement line for the clutch slave with a proper bend at the slave banjo fitting.  Two that I've bought (Russell and I can't remember) blocked access to the upper slave cylinder mounting bolt.  I never actually installed either one, but the angle is not the same as the stock line and holding it up to the fitting it sure looks like I would need to loosen the banjo to remove the slave.

Is this true?  Does anyone really have this problem with a SS clutch line?
DavidR.

the fan

I don't own and FJ, (never did...) but not all lines are created equal.

I usually either make up my own lines or buy custom made lines from Speigler.

That way I only have myself to blame for routing or fittment issues.

FJ_Hooligan

I can't seem to find a banjo fitting that duplicates the angle of the stock line.  The either cover the mounting bolt or, when flipped over, foul on the alternator.
DavidR.

JoBrCo

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I have yet to see a replacement line for the clutch slave with a proper bend at the slave banjo fitting.  Two that I've bought (Russell and I can't remember) blocked access to the upper slave cylinder mounting bolt.  I never actually installed either one, but the angle is not the same as the stock line and holding it up to the fitting it sure looks like I would need to loosen the banjo to remove the slave.

Is this true?  Does anyone really have this problem with a SS clutch line?
Thanks, Mr Hooligan, (:diablo:), for the potential point of contention, justifying a return of no consequence, but alas, they are perfect, almost exactly equidistant between the generator casing and the uppermost clutch slave mounting bolt.  I'm a happy camper! :yahoo: It looks like I'm in business guys!

Now lets just hope the rest of the line replacement, fits just as nice, and that I and my wife's lives, can actually depend upon them. They're not the type of warranties you ever really want to take the manufacturer up on, assuming you're able...

One down, and a thousand things to go.  :cray:

FJ Forever!  :drinks:

JoBrCo  
1985 FJ1100NC



"To 'truly' see the man in the mirror, the only way for the image to be clear, as the man then 'truly' grows" --JoBrCo--

'I only know that I know nothing' --Socrates--

yamaha fj rider

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I have yet to see a replacement line for the clutch slave with a proper bend at the slave banjo fitting.  Two that I've bought (Russell and I can't remember) blocked access to the upper slave cylinder mounting bolt.  I never actually installed either one, but the angle is not the same as the stock line and holding it up to the fitting it sure looks like I would need to loosen the banjo to remove the slave.

Is this true?  Does anyone really have this problem with a SS clutch line?
I have the Galfer clutch line and the fitting on the slave banjo, must be loosened to remove the slave cylinder. Hope this helps.

Kurt 
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

JoBrCo

Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 29, 2014, 07:18:53 AM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I have yet to see a replacement line for the clutch slave with a proper bend at the slave banjo fitting.  Two that I've bought (Russell and I can't remember) blocked access to the upper slave cylinder mounting bolt.  I never actually installed either one, but the angle is not the same as the stock line and holding it up to the fitting it sure looks like I would need to loosen the banjo to remove the slave.

Is this true?  Does anyone really have this problem with a SS clutch line?
I have the Galfer clutch line and the fitting on the slave banjo, must be loosened to remove the slave cylinder. Hope this helps.

Kurt 
Really?  How long ago did you get yours, because the only thing I can think of, is that they once didn't know what the proper bends should be, and now they do.  Or, there are slight differences between various years of FJ's, and they sent you the wrong year.

Because honestly I dry fitted the clutch cylinder, (haven't finished the piston/cylinder rebuild yet) after first attaching the banjo and banjo bolt supplied with the new lines, with one copper crush washer on the top and one on the bottom, cinching them down finger tight, (without crushing the washers during the dry fit).  Then I replaced the cylinder bolts, with one all the way down, snug, the other two had a few threads to go, (female threads in the casing have some corrosion I presume). Anyway the positioning was as it shall be, once all bolts are torqued, I made sure of it. And the Galfer clutch lines 'I got' mistakenly, for a 1984 FJ1100LC, when in fact mine is a 1985 FJ1100NC, fit perfectly, (there's not much difference between the first two years). The banjo was almost exactly equidistant between the generator housing and the upper clutch mounting cylinder bolt.  I actually used one of my Snapon, deep well, six point sockets, that was actually a larger US, (metric wasn't handy), size, to check for socket wall thickness clearance, and even with the larger socket, had plenty of room to access the bolts.

So I guess we have slightly different bikes or lines, because mine fit perfectly.

I do have an additional question though.  I noticed that the fittings that attach to both ends of the solid line have only approximately a 1/16" diameter orifice (ID).  Does that sound about right?  I'm still worried about their use of ABS in the nomenclature, and to me, that seems a bit narrow.

TIA!

FJ Forever!

JoBrCo
1985 FJ1100NC



"To 'truly' see the man in the mirror, the only way for the image to be clear, as the man then 'truly' grows" --JoBrCo--

'I only know that I know nothing' --Socrates--