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Title: base gasket failure?
Post by: HARTLESS on July 26, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
anyone ever had it happen without taking anything apart and ripping it? think that I developed an oil leak from it last weekend. not 100% sure yet though
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: ribbert on July 26, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: HARTLESS on July 26, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
anyone ever had it happen without taking anything apart and ripping it? think that I developed an oil leak from it last weekend. not 100% sure yet though

Yes I've seen a few that get damp around there. Even on motors that have never been touched.

This is me fixing a base gasket leak currently.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3801/9372340779_01913521a6_c.jpg)

Top end gasket set, rings and hone.  In my case, a check of the valves after taking the head off showed the seats are a bit crappy and probably not worth putting back together without doing them.
$400-$500 in parts plus labour.

If it's just weeping, live with it.  Mine unfortunately was a full blown leak.

Noel
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: fj11.5 on July 26, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
Not an fj, but my gsx base gasket leaked from the day I paid for her , till selling her 9 years later, never weaped any more or less
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: racerrad8 on July 26, 2013, 10:01:25 PM
Yes, it was a problem that Yamaha addressed with the current replacement gasket. It is no longer a paper/fiber gasket which was prone to tearing due to heat cycle expansion/contraction. I was a really big problem on the race cars where we see much higher engine temps.

It also became more of a problem with the larger sleeve/bore of the 1300cc engine and the loss of gasket surface at the block.

The replacement gasket is a steel gasket with a sealant sprayed on each side. These gaskets are almost bullet proof, except for when they get hot enough to melt the sealant from the gasket surface, I have only seen this happen one time.

I will never use a fiber gasket again, only the current steel one; Yamaha Base Gasket, Steel .010 (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Engine%3A1250Base)

I am currently out of stock awaiting my Yamaha engine order which I hope arrives next week.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: HARTLESS on July 26, 2013, 11:17:38 PM
ok, makes me feel a little better. happened after a long hot traffic delay so I was (still kind of am) a little nervous. its not profuse, but it is enough to leave a couple drips after a ride.
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: Harvy on July 27, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
Quote from: ribbert on July 26, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: HARTLESS on July 26, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
anyone ever had it happen without taking anything apart and ripping it? think that I developed an oil leak from it last weekend. not 100% sure yet though

Yes I've seen a few that get damp around there. Even on motors that have never been touched.

This is me fixing a base gasket leak currently.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3801/9372340779_01913521a6_c.jpg)

Top end gasket set, rings and hone.  In my case, a check of the valves after taking the head off showed the seats are a bit crappy and probably not worth putting back together without doing them.
$400-$500 in parts plus labour.

If it's just weeping, live with it.  Mine unfortunately was a full blown leak.

Noel


Noel, that one on the right mate..... it won't fit in  the frame!



lol
Harvy
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: 56 CHEVY on July 28, 2013, 08:29:37 AM
What is that engine was to the right of the FJ engine?
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: movenon on July 28, 2013, 09:38:55 AM
Kind of looks like a Model A ?
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: Firehawk068 on July 28, 2013, 01:05:23 PM
It looks like it's out of a tractor or something, and since it probably only makes 16 horsepower, I would put it back where it came from   :sarcastic:
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 28, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
The irony is that those old engines outlasted my grandfather, and my dad, and will still be around long after I'm gone....and probably my grand kids.
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: HARTLESS on August 20, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
 soooo.... i decided to check and see how tight the head bolts were and they were just barely not to spec. so i re torqued them but i also noticed my valve cover bolts were super loose. tightened them and the leak isnt as leaky. now, before i posted this post origionally, i had tightened the valve cover bolts not to long before that. is there any tricks to keeping them tight? not sure if i want to use locktite on valve cover bolts....... :sarcastic:
Title: Re: base gasket failure?
Post by: rktmanfj on August 20, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
Quote from: HARTLESS on August 20, 2013, 10:01:32 AM
soooo.... i decided to check and see how tight the head bolts were and they were just barely not to spec. so i re torqued them but i also noticed my valve cover bolts were super loose. tightened them and the leak isnt as leaky. now, before i posted this post origionally, i had tightened the valve cover bolts not to long before that. is there any tricks to keeping them tight? not sure if i want to use locktite on valve cover bolts....... :sarcastic:

How fresh are the seals?