Well, here she is fellas, the 180,000 mile FJ we have been talking about.
The owner that I got the this from, Kevin, is just the greatest guy you'd ever like to meet.
Me and my son must have talked with him for over an hour.
This guy has some great stories to go along with his old FJ, and what a detail orientated guy he is.
The day was a lot longer than I had envisioned, but being with my son was just the best, I couldn't have asked for a better companion today.
The FJ is tired, but has potential. I'm going to start slow and work on the brakes and clutch to start with and just see where it all leads to.
Leon
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I am glad it found a good home ! Looks like a pretty good start to me. And you know some of the nicest people own FJ's. :lol: :lol: :lol: I got the feeling he wanted it to go to someone who would take care of it. :good2: :good2:
George
Quote from: movenon on July 20, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
I got the feeling he wanted it to go to someone who would take care of it. :good2: :good2:
George
That is it, exactly.
I don't plan to let him down either.
Leon
I guess that worked out. I was doing the math on what it would take to ride it the 2000miles to Cali...
Detail oriented. Kinda like you. :good:
Leon if /:when you take the parts out. For the right side shifter. I would pay ya for them. So I could give them to my brother so he could look for an fj. He too lost his left leg in a bike accident. A girl turned into and ran him over in an intersection?
let me know what you think
thanks Dan
Quote from: giantkiller on July 20, 2013, 11:38:51 PM
Detail oriented. Kinda like you. :good:
Leon if /:when you take the parts out. For the right side shifter. I would pay ya for them so I could give them to my brother so he could look for an fj. He too lost his left leg in a bike accident. A girl turned into and ran him over in an intersection?
let me know what you think
thanks Dan
The parts are yours Dan, as soon as I locate the proper replacement parts.
The punch is still with Kevin, as he didn't have it at his home when we picked the bike up.
I'll double check, but all I got were the extra shift linkage for the right side.
Leon
That would be great. Got fired up. When I saw that he had done that.
Thanks again
That's the $200 fj,, bloody hell did you offer him more :shok: , she looks brilliant in the pics :good2:,,,
Quote from: fj11.5 on July 21, 2013, 07:24:54 AM
That's the $200 fj,, bloody hell did you offer him more :shok: , she looks brilliant in the pics :good2:,,,
It actually only cost me a tank full of gas for my truck to go get it.
It's been very well taken care of, but still, 180,000 miles has the tendency to wear certain things out, so before long I will be addressing some issues I'm not comfortable with.
I have no complaints...after all, it's an FJ!!
Leon
Quote from: 1tinindian on July 21, 2013, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on July 21, 2013, 07:24:54 AM
That's the $200 fj,, bloody hell did you offer him more :shok: , she looks brilliant in the pics :good2:,,,
It actually only cost me a tank full of gas for my truck to go get it.
It's been very well taken care of, but still, 180,000 miles has the tendency to wear certain things out, so before long I will be addressing some issues I'm not comfortable with.
I have no complaints...after all, it's an FJ!!
Leon
Deal of the century, for certain.
Good on ya!
Good for you Leon..Well deserved! A better home for the old girl does not exist... :good2:
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 21, 2013, 01:39:13 PM
Good for you Leon..Well deserved! A better home for the old girl does not exist... :good2:
Thanks Pat.
This bike deserves to live on, instead of being broken up for it's parts.
It's had an incredible life up to this point, and I see no need to cut it short!
I have already started to gather parts and making a list of things I will need to keep life in this trusty stead.
I look forward to spending time with this FJ, as I almost feel that I have done most everything to my 91 to suite me, it's very interesting to see and ride such a "stock" FJ again.
Leon
Leon
Any chance of some pics of the right side shifter setup. My left leg has limited ankle movement and I'd like some ideas of how to get the shifter over to the other side. I have been tinkering with it but haven't got serious about trying some ideas.
Quote from: squidley63 on July 21, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
Any chance of some pics of the right side shifter setup. My left leg has limited ankle movement and I'd like some ideas of how to get the shifter over to the other side. I have been tinkering with it but haven't got serious about trying some ideas.
Yes, I plan on taking detailed pictures before it is removed.
Leon
Pulling her down for parts would of been a shame, that ol lump can live freshly again , glad she has a deserving owner mate :good2: :hi:
As promised, the right hand shifter mod, in pictures.
I took a lot from all angles, but if there is something else you'd like to see, that I haven't captured, just ask.
Leon
The stock, left side.
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The right side shifter.
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Both are operational at the same time. One doesn't need to be remove for the other one to work as they operate off the same shift shaft, just this one has been extended through the clutch cover.
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You can see in this picture how the rear brake lever has been heated up and repositioned to make room for your foot to operate the new shifter.
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Really appreciate the pictures. I've been kicking around the idea since my accident of switching the shifter to the other side. I miss being able to smoothly shift a bike and can't stand the idea of an air shifter setup. Good thing the gearing and the motor on the fj don't require a bunch of shifting at the pace I ride on the street.
I'm the guy who made the shifter (and rode a few miles on the FJ), I used original FJ parts for the shifter and pivot but the piece that bolts onto the shift shaft came from any year FZR 400 or 600. I used it because it was a stamped plate making the cutting/ welding easier than using a FJ component. To keep the throw the same, I added a .250" sq stock for a spacer. In the picture below, you will see two welds just below the shift shaft. The .250" spacer is between the welds.
The shift shaft is the stock FJ shaft but I welded a second partial shaft onto the original so I had a splined shaft coming out both sides.
The cover was modified by first removing the original shaft, putting in a transfer punch into the shift shaft location, putting the clutch cover back on and hitting the other end of the punch. That made a center punch mark inside the cover. From there, I put the cover in a mill, indicated in the center punch mark and used a boring head to put the hole in the cover. I made an aluminum plug that pressed into the hole I made and used JB Weld to hold in place. almost 200,000 miles and still holding great. I also machined it so it took OEM FJ shift shaft seals and added a needle bearing for smoother shifting.
I have the transfer punch that someone in WI asked for. I will be mailing it to him/ her and from there, maybe they can continue to ship the transfer punch to who needs it.
Kevin
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My hat's off to you, Kevin.
Your (former) bike looks almost new. You took care of it, I can tell.
Pretty ingenious workmanship on the "dual" shifter setup. You're probably pretty handy to have around!
Cheers to you, and I'm happy your bike went to a good home.
Steve
Kevin, so nice to see you come in and share your mod in detail.
Your work is very impressive. I'm sure others here could benefit from your back ground and years of hands on experience with motorcycles in general and Yamahas specifically.
Leon
Nice job Kevin! Very well executed.
I finally got some free time tonight and pulled the right hand shift parts out and boxed up to send to giantkiller.
Here are a few interesting pictures while I was at it.
The modified shift shaft compared to a stock one.
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The inside of the clutch cover.
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The clutch.
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With over 182K miles, the dreaded wire spring is still intact.
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Clutch plate wear on the basket.
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The wire will not be going back in!
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The modified parts heading to their new owner.
Paying it forward.
I still need to spec out the clutch frictions and plates and spring, in order to determine any further course needed.
If it can be determined by the photos, can I here your opinions on the usable condition of the clutch basket.?? Thanks.
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Leon
Thanks Leon. I couldn't wait to tell my brother, that he could now get an fj. I was going to put the parts on my bike the next time I went to OKC. And say go take it for a ride. But that wouldn't be until next year. So I called and told him. He got all excited. And said he remembered riding my first fj. Back in 86. He said he remembered looking down at the speedo and reading 145 mph.and thinking "I gotta get one of these. And now 27 years later he can.
Quote from: giantkiller on July 30, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
Thanks Leon. I couldn't wait to tell my brother, that he could now get an fj. I was going to put the parts on my bike the next time I went to OKC. And say go take it for a ride. But that wouldn't be until next year. So I called and told him. He got all excited. And said he remembered riding my first fj. Back in 86. He said he remembered looking down at the speedo and reading 145 mph.and thinking "I gotta get one of these. And now 27 years later he can.
I think that is so awesome, that these parts will be going to the "right" person, that can make good use of them.
This community is great!
Leon
I gotta say its awesome that those parts can get someone back on a bike. Very ingenious and well executed 2 nd shifter.
Quote from: giantkiller on July 30, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
Thanks Leon. I couldn't wait to tell my brother, that he could now get an fj. I was going to put the parts on my bike the next time I went to OKC. And say go take it for a ride. But that wouldn't be until next year. So I called and told him. He got all excited. And said he remembered riding my first fj. Back in 86. He said he remembered looking down at the speedo and reading 145 mph.and thinking "I gotta get one of these. And now 27 years later he can.
Is he near Rochester mn? http://rmn.craigslist.org/mcy/3969531831.html (http://rmn.craigslist.org/mcy/3969531831.html)
Quote from: Dads_FJ on July 31, 2013, 06:27:09 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on July 30, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
Thanks Leon. I couldn't wait to tell my brother, that he could now get an fj. I was going to put the parts on my bike the next time I went to OKC. And say go take it for a ride. But that wouldn't be until next year. So I called and told him. He got all excited. And said he remembered riding my first fj. Back in 86. He said he remembered looking down at the speedo and reading 145 mph.and thinking "I gotta get one of these. And now 27 years later he can.
Is he near Rochester mn? http://rmn.craigslist.org/mcy/3969531831.html (http://rmn.craigslist.org/mcy/3969531831.html)
Nice looking bike and a pretty good price.... I just live in the wrong part of the country....
George
Clutch basket looks fine, I've seen some on MX bikes that were grooved 1/4" deep. We just filed it down and kept running it..... :good2:
Can you even feel indents there?
Nice to finally see what the clutch looked like. I was going to pull the clutch just to see it but never did. Glad you posted some photos.
I kept the wire in the clutch as it was to add a slight drag if shifting when you weren't moving. The clutch did have a little bit of slip when at full throttle and at the torque peak but otherwise it felt good.
I think I have a few complete clutch baskets, pressure plates ect at my shop. One of these days I should start opening up some of my boxes...
Thanks again for the photos and bringing back the memories of when I did the shifter.
Quote from: 1tinindian on July 30, 2013, 11:00:13 PM
I still need to spec out the clutch frictions and plates and spring, in order to determine any further course needed.
If it can be determined by the photos, can I here your opinions on the usable condition of the clutch basket.??
Thanks, Leon
Leon, I am sorry I missed this last night and all of today, I thought it was another bike sale post...but then Rich said clutch basket.
Good to go on the basket & clutch boss. You need to look at the frictions and steels and then make a decision on which option you want to choose for better clutch engagement.
The options are well listed throughout the annals of this forum. I am here to help you will any option you choose.
Randy - RPM
After all the close-up looking at the parts, I would put in a new pressure plate and use everything else over. I always put grease on the gaskets so they won't stick when taking something back apart but I see the gasket did tear. Hopefully the old gasket will come loose from the surfaces without too much work.
Quote from: RichBaker on July 31, 2013, 08:20:16 PM
Can you even feel indents there?
Ever so slightly, I was expecting worse.
You'll never guess by looking at the odometer that this thing has an additional 100K on it!
Quote from: racerrad8 on July 31, 2013, 08:57:05 PM
Leon, I am sorry I missed this last night and all of today, I thought it was another bike sale post...but then Rich said clutch basket.
Good to go on the basket & clutch boss. You need to look at the frictions and steels and then make a decision on which option you want to choose for better clutch engagement.
The options are well listed throughout the annals of this forum. I am here to help you will any option you choose.
Randy - RPM
No worries Randy, I'm in no rush.
This is a lot of fun looking the old girl over.
I don't have any pictures from tonight, but I did measure the frictions, steels, and the spring free height.
The spec for the steels are 1.9-2.1 mm
They all measures from 1.98-2.01 mm
The fibers spec is 2.9-3.1 with a min. of 2.8mm
They all measured from 2.97-3.05 mm
The clutch spring free height min. is 6.00 mm
Taking several different measurements around the spring, I got anywhere from 6.32-6.50 mm
I still haven't checked warp of the steels or the spring yet.
At this point, I'm pretty happy with the clutch over all, but my 91 FJ has spoiled me with the double spring and adjustable clutch lever.
I may go with those changes along with adding the wider fiber in the back of the clutch pack, and button this sucker back up.
I plan on starting a shopping list with you very soon!
Quote from: bigguy136 on July 31, 2013, 08:49:23 PM
Nice to finally see what the clutch looked like. I was going to pull the clutch just to see it but never did. Glad you posted some photos.
I kept the wire in the clutch as it was to add a slight drag if shifting when you weren't moving. The clutch did have a little bit of slip when at full throttle and at the torque peak but otherwise it felt good.
I think I have a few complete clutch baskets, pressure plates ect at my shop. One of these days I should start opening up some of my boxes...
Thanks again for the photos and bringing back the memories of when I did the shifter.
I'm glad the pictures were of interest to you Kevin, your input is highly valued, thanks.
I plan on documenting (with pictures) as much as I can with this bike, not unlike all my other vehicles I've had in the past.
Leon
So Leon.... how are you gonna add the pink stripe? Pin striping brush maybe? :blum2:
Derek
Quote from: Derek Young on August 01, 2013, 08:35:35 AM
So Leon.... how are you gonna add the pink stripe? Pin striping brush maybe? :blum2:
Derek
The garage is only big enough for one pink stripe! LOL
I have not plans on altering the paint work on this FJ.
Leon
This is a great story. :good2:
Almost forgot, when putting in the steel plates, I always put the plates in with the burr side out. I feel that if the burr was facing inward and under hard acceleration, the burr will bite into the inner basket as the clutch pack tightens not allowing the clutch to grab fully.
Kevin is going to send the tool/ modified punch. When he gets a chance. And I will keep it and make it available to anyone in need of making a right side shift. I will want to keep it I case my brother needs to do up another. And to make sure it doesn't disappear and not be available for someone who needs it.
Thanks again Kevin. And Leon
Going Sunday to look @ 3 fj's for my brother. Hope to buy one.
Now my other brother wants one. I think I want one of the ones I'm going to look at. May come home with 3 more fj's tomorrow the third one doesn't sound like that good of a deal. But I told my other brother I would offer a low price and leave it at that
But with my luck they probably will all sell tonight
My brother just bought an 86 all red from Norman Oklahoma today. So the parts for the right side shifter will be going on this week.
Thanks again Leon and Kevin. The bike already had forward pegs mounted on the lower engine mounts so he can put his leg a little forward when he needs to. Plus he's going to meet me at the ECFR...and ride the dragon.
I have really fallen behind on my updates on this bike, but that doesn't mean I haven't been busy working on it.
Late last fall, I swapped my 91 FJ wheels/tires/brake rotors on to the 93 as the wheels were already polished, the tires were in better shape, and the rotors were far better than the 180000+ rotors that came on the 93.
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The front calipers were swapped out for the blue dots and the front brake master and lever are now from a FZ1.
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The carbs have been given the treatment from RPM and are on the way back as I type.
I have also gotten the bug to do the gixxer rear wheel swap and have just recently finished cleaning up this ebay find, as well as locating all the parts to complete the swap.
Look closely, as you can see the wheel was originally Periwinkle, but had been repainted a light blue. Neither would do!
So after stripping the paint, finding it completely sand blasted, I sanded the edge smooth, polished the rim and sprocket carrier, then masked off the shiny bits, and glass bead blasted the center of the rim and the spokes.
So now, I'm more at the mercy of the winter weather we are having now, and look forward to spring and riding again...Updates to continue as progress is made.
Leon
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Nice Leon !!!!!!!!!!!! You do beautiful work. Which I had your talent. The weather this year has a lot of us running slower. A few weeks ago it actually got up to 42 degrees and sunshine for about 2 hours............. :dash2: Not to much snow here just cold and grey.
Damn, that wheel sure looks good...
George
Did someone say Periwinkle? http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1562.msg37357#msg37357 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1562.msg37357#msg37357)
Looks great. I am at a standstill with my gixxer rear wheel swap. As I was cleaning the sprocket to verify the
Number of teeth and pitch I discovered it was a 525 pitch. I had to special order a 42 tooth 530 from
Sprocket specialties.
Scott
Quote from: FJscott on February 02, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
Looks great. I am at a standstill with my gixxer rear wheel swap. As I was cleaning the sprocket to verify the
Number of teeth and pitch I discovered it was a 525 pitch. I had to special order a 42 tooth 530 from
Sprocket specialties.
Scott
I bought mine from JT Sprockets. I think it was a 92 GSXR 750 but I went with a lower tooth count. http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/5801 (http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/5801).
Have you got the spacers figured out yet ? You will like the look of the new rear tire on there. :good2:
George
George, I will have to wait to figure out the spacers until I start fitting it to the bike.
Scott, how did you know you had the wrong sprocket?
I may have a problem that I wasn't aware of.
Thanks guys ,
Leon
Quote from: 1tinindian on February 02, 2014, 11:13:24 AM
George, I will have to wait to figure out the spacers until I start fitting it to the bike.
Scott, how did you know you had the wrong sprocket?
I may have a problem that I wasn't aware of.
Thanks guys ,
Leon
I got this one for you Scott: "As I was cleaning the sprocket to
verify the Number of teeth and pitch I discovered it was a 525 pitch."
I could not help myself... I am just as guilty of this at times... :empathy3:
Leon,
I knew just looking at the sprocket that it was larger. So I counted the teeth and it was 45.
I then started looking on eBay for sprockets and they were all for a 525 or 520 pitch chain.
I found on the sprocket where it was stamped 45tooth/525.
Scott
What year wheel are you using?
Fred
Check the JT sprocket WEB site it will tell you what the sprocket chain spec's are. As I understand it the 1100 GSXR's are 525 and the 750 GSXR's are 530.
Here is the JT index page, just type in GSXR to get list http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue#search-results (http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue#search-results)
The GSXR 750 JT sprockets are on e bay frequently. I have 18T on the front and 38 on the rear with 110 links. More for touring. I wouldn't mind dropping back to a 17t on the front in the future. I used a Honda VF 1000 front sprocket with one side boss ground down to locate the chain slightly outboard (might not be required for everyone). Again the JT site has those spec's and you can compare them to the FJ's. FJ info http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/6352 (http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/6352)
George
Quote from: FJscott on February 02, 2014, 11:44:24 AM
Leon,
I knew just looking at the sprocket that it was larger. So I counted the teeth and it was 45.
I then started looking on eBay for sprockets and they were all for a 525 or 520 pitch chain.
I found on the sprocket where it was stamped 45tooth/525.
Scott
Same with my GSXR wheel. It came with a 525 size sprocket. It was aluminum so I wasn't planning on running it anyway. I picked up a 42 tooth 530 JT steel sprocket.
Joe
Hey Leon, a 180k mile FJ eh? Heh, heh, It's just broken in....
What's your plan on the ABS system? Going to keep it? Does it work? I noticed you still have the oem rubber brake hoses on the bike. With the abs system you have a lot of (old) hoses to worry about.... Just sayin..
Have you checked the compression numbers yet?
Cheers!
OK, after doing a little looking on the sprocket, I found this info,
"Renthal 221 530 45T"
Thanks Mark!! LOL! :drinks:
The wheel is off a 1990 GSXR 750.
Pat, the brake lines will be replaced as I get this thing back together.
The engine ran great, other than the funky carb setup, but a compression test is a good idea.
The ABS system was already disabled and partially removed, to uing my non ABS wheels were not an issue. It will forever be ABS in name only.
So, with this rear wheel having a 45T sprocket, will it be too much of a slug, or will the grunt of the FJ mill, over come?
"So, with this rear wheel having a 45T sprocket, will it be too much of a slug, or will the grunt of the FJ mill, over come?"
Leon, just the opposite, you will have way more torque then you will ever need off the line. But the RPMs at freeway speeds will be insanely high. This is a good setup for a wheelie machine...
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 02, 2014, 06:38:26 PM
"So, with this rear wheel having a 45T sprocket, will it be too much of a slug, or will the grunt of the FJ mill, over come?"
Leon, just the opposite, you will have way more torque then you will ever need off the line. But the RPMs at freeway speeds will be insanely high. This is a good setup for a wheelie machine...
+1 . On that rear sprocket some of those 1100 GSXR's were converted to a 530 chain as a mod. Without checking you might be in good shape if you use a 18t front sprocket. Out of memory 1 tooth up there is 2 or3 teeth on the rear ? Unless you are just up for a fast grocery getter. :drinks:
George
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 02, 2014, 06:38:26 PM
"So, with this rear wheel having a 45T sprocket, will it be too much of a slug, or will the grunt of the FJ mill, over come?"
Leon, just the opposite, you will have way more torque then you will ever need off the line. But the RPMs at freeway speeds will be insanely high. This is a good setup for a wheelie machine...
Right you are, damn, I shouldn't type while have asleep!
My 91 has a 39T rear sprocket, so point taken!
A long winter has a way of disconnecting me from the spec of the bikes I own.
Out of sight, out of mind!
Leon
George, I just might give the 45T a try before I worry about it too much, as my plan is to use this 93 as my commuter bike.
My normal riding squares off tires something terrible, and I hate killing great tires that way, so my 91 will get the soft compound tires for obvious reasons, and the 93 will get the harder compound tires.
My commute is less than 20 miles, each way, so the gearing might not be too big of an issue as if I were riding a whole day, sucking gas like a mad man.
Leon
Sounds like a fun ride to work Leon :good2:
"go Seahawks :drinks:"
George
Quote from: movenon on February 02, 2014, 07:43:22 PM
"go Seahawks :drinks:"
I knew their defense was good, but.....damn. :hi:
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 02, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: movenon on February 02, 2014, 07:43:22 PM
"go Seahawks :drinks:"
I knew their defense was good, but.....damn. :hi:
To bad they gave Denver 8 points :lol:. Got to complain about something...
George
When I see posts lke this it makes me think I could have my fj running just fine for the next 20 years with my measly 40k miles on it
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Besides sending my rims off to Pat or Leon, what's it take to get that high sheen on the outer rim? Just this and elbow grease? http://www.simichrome-polish.com/ (http://www.simichrome-polish.com/)
John, this wheel was completely sand blasted after I striped the paint off of it.
To get it smooth enough to polish, the rough surface needs to be sanded down...and I mean A LOT of sanding!!
I started with 80 grit and worked my way up to 600 grit before the polishing ever started.
And the polishing is done with pneumatic tools, not by hand.
I like to use a die grinder with a cloth wheel and rouge.
This will get you there 98%.
It is only after all that, is when the Simichrome is used for the finishing touch and continued maintenance.
Leon
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Leon,
Your hard work looks incredible. :good: :drinks: :good2:
I cheated and had my GSXR wheel completely powder coated. It now matches the front FZR wheel
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