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Title: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on May 25, 2013, 07:56:48 AM
Well.......a few weeks ago I had an issue with the carbies on the FJ...... Well, yeah I got the carbies cleaned to a certain extent and had it running really nice un tuned, but with another disaster. The tank HAD being the operative word a magnificent paint job that was done by the PO.it WAS truly magnificent not a chip anywhere or a scratch ...it had quite a bit of fuel in it when I went and cleaned the carbs. So I plugged the fuel line to stop the excess from running out instead of locking the fuel tap, why i dont know still to this day why i did it. maybe because i had a bolt on my and at the time and that stopped the fuel running out when i disconnected it and for some ungodly reason which I am still quite pissed with myself for... I Turned the tank upside down on  lovely soft rags so it wouldn't scratch..... It never leaked all day as i checked it a lot being every 15 minutes for about 6 hours or more..... I had cleaned the carbs put them back together when I noticed a wet mark on the bench. When I lifted the tank, to my horror the paint had orange peeled and the 2 pack clear had sort of lifted and the YAMAHA stickers had peeled............... Yeah, did I scream .....could have heard me the other side of the world......It hadn't leaked all day until, I turned my head enough to not take notice. Guess what?......it leaked....At that point being more than pissed with it I walked away from it and haven't bothered with it since.....?. Its still in bits 3 weeks later.......I'm now contemplating doing away with it altogether... Lost interest in it. A mate of mine cut new stickers for me using the originals as a template but I just can't be bothered anymore.....took the tank and got a quote to repaint it the next day, and because its got a pearl gold stipe which has the tiniest amount of orange peel off it which i suppose i can live with, nobody wants to touch it as the stripe it no longer available and the $ to recreate it is absurd. Got a quote of $500 to repaint it and re sticker it. So now I look at the bike in the shed and , well for the moment. To hell with it. Was looking forward to getting it going but not so certain anymore. It's the little things that piss you off the most. Yes it was my stupidity for doing that. I did stand it on end however it still leaked from the fuel line,so I have no one else to blame but me. I'm contemplating now starting a business to recreate FJ stickers.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: FJmonkey on May 25, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
Bugger!!! I hate it when that happens. Maybe others have had to re-coat their tank with the gold stripe and have a good solution for you.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Bob on May 25, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
Had a similar thing happen to my '93 in 2007 ... I had stored the fuel tank on it's own under my work bench for the winter. Something dripped on it and in the spring there was a large patch of missing paint on top.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/JwPuGTFqXyVoDJGmgTKyNbTWfolmuB11b-GkG3g29U4=w252-h188-p-no)

I ended up getting a custom paint job for the entire bike.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/RkSp7-dFsQ3julWB9Z0cV0LSnt4x6OyfNiCik_yk6z0=w252-h188-p-no)

So, in the end, not so bad  :good:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/1Z72e6caWfGEazwVKg3KaUasaTOIdNLzFYHpFMq5uNA=w252-h188-p-no)
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: VaughanCustoms on May 25, 2013, 09:07:10 AM
Oh no :(
Sorry to hear that man, I did pretty much the same thing when I was taking the carbs off of mine. Didnt drain that gas and tilted the tank to take the hoses loose on the petcock and dripped gas all down the front of my tank. The paint isnt good because the PO desided to do a ugly flat black but it still upset me non the less. I have scratched my show car my 1967 Mercury Cougar working on it. Its sucks but thats how things happen sometimes. Sorry about the frustration but I dont think you should give up on your project.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: crzyjarmans on May 25, 2013, 09:07:32 AM
That sure does stink! Hope you can get it fixed quickly
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: rktmanfj on May 25, 2013, 01:43:57 PM

Sickening, isn't it?

This happened several years ago, when my FJ fell over while sitting in a friend's driveway:

(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/FJ/CAM00013_zps20edc170.jpg)

It had the Yamaha tank bra on it at the time (and is why I'll never have another one).

Fortunately, my tank bag, which is on almost all the time , covers it nicely.

(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/FJ/CAM00014_zpsed26beac.jpg)

Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: The General on May 25, 2013, 02:24:35 PM
Ohhhh mate. ...You need ta go for a ride...wish I was nearby.  :empathy2:

Take it for a ride ..as is.!  ASAP
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: aviationfred on May 25, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Looks like some choice bits here including a tank that is nice and shiny. Possibly contact a memberin the UK that could pick this up and ship it to you.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fj1200-3cv-1991-fj-1200-tank-c-w-key-seat-side-panels-top-fairing-screen-/390601484484?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5af1a9a8c4 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fj1200-3cv-1991-fj-1200-tank-c-w-key-seat-side-panels-top-fairing-screen-/390601484484?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5af1a9a8c4)
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: yamaha fj rider on May 26, 2013, 11:19:50 AM
Jeff sucks about the tank. The silver lining is your idea about the FJ graphics. Think this would be awesome. Maybe you can make enough to repaint the tank.

Kurt   
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: rktmanfj on May 26, 2013, 11:38:32 AM

Not sure if 'woodcreekpete' still monitors this list or not, but he had some FJ tank stripes made up once, and was selling them.  It's been a while, but IIRC, he only had them in black.  If you only had a set, you could probably get them copied locally in about any color you wanted.

Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: bugboy on May 26, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Mine had something worse than "orange peel",,,, it had "orange paint"
(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/bugboy449/DSCN0443.jpg) (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/bugboy449/media/DSCN0443.jpg.html)


So I rattle-can'd it.
(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/bugboy449/047.jpg) (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/bugboy449/media/047.jpg.html)

It isn't everyone's "cup of tea", but it works for me.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: ribbert on May 27, 2013, 08:42:29 AM
Jeff, that's really bad luck with the tank.

'Sign A Rama' , sign making franchises, there are quite a few in Melbourne, can do this.
They not only have the stripes to match, they will apply them for a very modest fee. From memory, it was about $40.

I looked into getting a tank done in '93 scheme and they could do the striping no problem.

Noel
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: baldy3853 on May 27, 2013, 10:57:23 AM
Sorry to hear about this, but there re plenty of people on the net who will do them, also talk to the general, one of his mates does stickers an will cut all the graphics for the FJ, I thinks he's doing some for Darans new ride
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: FJSpringy on May 27, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: ribbert on May 27, 2013, 08:42:29 AM
Jeff, that's really bad luck with the tank.

'Sign A Rama' , sign making franchises, there are quite a few in Melbourne, can do this.
They not only have the stripes to match, they will apply them for a very modest fee. From memory, it was about $40.

I looked into getting a tank done in '93 scheme and they could do the striping no problem.

Noel


Geez Noel,

40 bucks wow, it cost me 50 just to get two small stickers made up with my boats name, I just imported my new fairing decals from the UK for $50 landed as the local franchises were a total rip off.

you're lucky in Melb

D
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on May 28, 2013, 03:55:27 AM
I got a mate who did me the YAMAHA  stickers but he can't do the stripes as they are  chameleon in colour they change in the light. There the original FJ 88-9 ones. If I change them I have do do the lot. I'm thinking of getting silver vi yo and attempting spraying them myself in acyrilic paint with some additives so it flexes. Down side is its a costly experiment
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: novaraptor on May 28, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
Totally sucks, and I know this doesn't help, but now you are forced to make it your own. Have a special graphic or image in mind? now's the opportunity to do a little "custom tagging".
OH, and we have all screwed up once or twice..I don't know why things wait until you aren't looking before they go wrong.

Jerry
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: HARTLESS on May 28, 2013, 01:55:43 PM
Well, for Yamaha logos as far as decals I can make several of those for about 2 bucks. My old high school shop has a decal machine and I still keep in touch with the shop teacher. Problem is they cut his hours so he has a weird schedule and summers off. All I need is a .bmp (bitmap) image or to convert it to that. If anyone needs anything I can try and get in there to do it. The hardest part is the application. I made several for my vision because the 3d logos looked like crap. The colors are pretty basic though
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: fj11.5 on May 29, 2013, 01:37:04 AM
Quote from: bugboy on May 26, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Mine had something worse than "orange peel",,,, it had "orange paint"
(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/bugboy449/DSCN0443.jpg) (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/bugboy449/media/DSCN0443.jpg.html)


So I rattle-can'd it.
(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/bugboy449/047.jpg) (http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/bugboy449/media/047.jpg.html)

It isn't everyone's "cup of tea", but it works for me.  Suits me just fine mate :)
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on June 15, 2013, 07:13:41 AM
Today I picked up the paint for the Fuel tank....they guy in the paint shop told me they used shit clear coat on it as the stuff used never cures properly and thats what caused that....anyway i took it to the painter. I was going to have a go myself but I have never painted 2 Pak before also being cold it may not dry properly. So decided to farm it out. Glad I did now. The painter and I marked out with masking tape where the YAMAHA stickers go and also talked about the original stripes not being touched. We masked up where the stickers went and took a template as a guide with measurements.  What happened next was unexpected but clarified why the stickers came off the way they did.....there's some shit painters around that take shortcuts.....after masking up the stickers and marking the areas, we removed the tape. bugger me the tape peeled the clear coat off as if it were sticky tape..... The painter said its shit paint and preparation that caused this... Oh this is going to be more than a headache. I told him do what you can, after seeing this I don't expect miracles.  Now it's a wait and see thing. It really shits me when peopletake shortcuts. When I painted and repaired cars I never substituted cost for quality, it would only comeback and bite you in the arse. Anyway its in getting done now so let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: ribbert on June 15, 2013, 07:52:49 AM
Jeff,
glad you're hanging in there. You really will have earned some trouble free saddle time when this is sorted and hits the road.

Noel
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on June 22, 2013, 07:05:18 AM
The tanks in getting painted. I'm glad I didn't do it now. Went and had a look a a couple of  days ago. The guy who is doing it has spent a lot of time and care not to touch the decals. It was just about to be under coated when I saw it. I removed 2 sets of Yamaha decals off it and apparently there was another one under there. I didn't  see it. Anyway I waited and saw it under coated. Looked good, even if it was undercoat. Anxious moments now...... I went today to see if it was ready. It was away getting the YAMAHA decals put on before the clearcoat goes on. From what I heard the base coat came up brilliantly.. Now I'm really keen to see it. Fingers and toes  crossed it will look good. I'm told the paint match was perfect.  I'm going to get something done to it when I get it back to protect he paint from bird shit and chips. Got to leave it cure a couple of weeks first. Suits me fine. I got the shocker off As well. Hope to sort that out. Is a temporary fix until I get the RWC done and randy gets his one sorted. Exhausts are going this week to get repacked as well. Tyres, chain and sprockets left to do. Then hopefully cruising time.
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: oz.fj on June 22, 2013, 05:03:40 PM
It's sounding good Jeff :good:
Looking forward to seeing some pics of the tank
As I'm sure you are, at taking your first registered ride

:drinks:

Darran
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on July 07, 2013, 06:34:04 AM
Got the tank back from the painter. Done a magnificent job. I have tried to Post a pic but no luck. Keeping in mind the painter had to watch out for the sticker I am very happy with the result. It has to go back and be polished so I'm reluctant in putting back on just yet. The paint match is perfect. Even the painter was impressed. Also I'm still doing bits to it so I'm not risking anything. Also going to try get a clear protector for it. Temporary Shockers in, tyre, chain and mufflers left to go. It's officially of age now for club reg. now I'm starting to get impatient
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: fj11.5 on July 07, 2013, 06:37:45 AM
Going great mate, be ready just in time for summer, well dry clean roads at least  :biggrin: ,how much they ripping you off for rego over there
Title: Re: Disastrous result
Post by: Jeff0308 on July 07, 2013, 06:46:50 AM
$100 for he club fee and $132 for 90 days riding or $66 for 45 days riding. I believe it $625 or $645 for full reg now. Bugger that. If I had to pay hat I think I would get rid of it. Considering its only $50 extra to register a car. It's ridiculous.