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Title: stubby can mod
Post by: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 04:15:09 AM
Hi guys,
Anyone know what size inlet on an 89 I'd be looking at for on an aftermarket slip on exhaust? Looking at fitting some stubby cans  :good2:
Thanks

Tom
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: fj11.5 on May 20, 2013, 04:48:23 AM
If it wasn't so icey id go measure, but I think its 50mm,, are you running a standard 4/2 system or something else,  on a standard system you will also need an extension joiner type piece to go from the collector,, if you have a 4/1 better check it yourself as they can range from 1 3/4" 2" or like mine 2.5"
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 04:53:00 AM
Cheers mate. I'm running 4 - 2 I'll have to check it myself if they vary. Just haven't got the time at the moment.

Thanks

Tom
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on May 20, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
Quote from: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 04:15:09 AM
Hi guys,
Anyone know what size inlet on an 89 I'd be looking at for on an aftermarket slip on exhaust? Looking at fitting some stubby cans  :good2:
Thanks

Tom

Tom, before you spend your money, look into just how loud the stubbies are when you wind it up.

I've got these (as have many others here) with the baffles out, at full throttle in the top half of the tacho they are about as loud as you'd want to live with every day. Loud enough to keep me off the throttle around town for two reasons, one, not attracting too much attention and, two, it hurts my ears without ear plugs.

Those stubbies are LOUD.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6587192713_019793b258_b.jpg)

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 07:51:54 AM
Hi Noel,
Great pic! Have you got anymore of your bike? Those stubbys are great! Where did you purchase then from? Not fussed about the noise as I was running my sp1 with out baffles and my gsxr 750. I always ear plugs regardless.

Thanks a lot  :good:

Tom
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on May 20, 2013, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 07:51:54 AM
Hi Noel,
Great pic! Have you got anymore of your bike? Those stubbys are great! Where did you purchase then from? Not fussed about the noise as I was running my sp1 with out baffles and my gsxr 750. I always ear plugs regardless.

Thanks a lot  :good:

Tom

Sorry, I just realised the ambiguity of my post.

Those ARE NOT the stubbies on my bike!
The stubbies are much shorter and MUCH louder. The noise levels I was referring to are on my bike which has the 450mm(?) oval "DELKEVIC" slip ons.

Their ad even says the stubbies are not suitable for road use.

I like my bike loud, which is why I have the baffles out. It took a while for them to find their voice, but I love the sound.

I don't wear ear plugs around town. My ears are an extra set of eyes in traffic. Even heading off on a trip I don't put them in until I reach the city limits and do the reverse coming back.

Do I have anymore pictures of my bike? Yes, about 10,000 of them. I have them by season, time of day, terrain, racetrack, bush bashing, dirty, clean, angle, detail, artistic, mechanical, reference, component, dismantled, lighting effect, action, location, occasion.............

My wife thinks I have change the 'face recognition' on the camera to 'FJ recognition'

Noel

Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
Haha they looked a bit longer than my idea of a stubby but nothing a bit of chopping wouldn't sort. Have you got a pic of your stubbys?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: HARTLESS on May 21, 2013, 01:44:47 PM
 :sarcastic: I don't know if i want to see any stubbies......
But on second thought I do! I am thinking of putting some on mine. Found some r1 cans from an 08 for $50. Might try them
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: mrtom on May 21, 2013, 06:00:56 PM
Sounds like a plan  :good:
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: p51bombay on May 21, 2013, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: ribbert on May 20, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
Quote from: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 04:15:09 AM
Hi guys,
Anyone know what size inlet on an 89 I'd be looking at for on an aftermarket slip on exhaust? Looking at fitting some stubby cans  :good2:
Thanks

Tom

Tom, before you spend your money, look into just how loud the stubbies are when you wind it up.

I've got these (as have many others here) with the baffles out, at full throttle in the top half of the tacho they are about as loud as you'd want to live with every day. Loud enough to keep me off the throttle around town for two reasons, one, not attracting too much attention and, two, it hurts my ears without ear plugs.

Those stubbies are LOUD.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6587192713_019793b258_b.jpg)

Noel

Those are really big!

What's that rear caliper bracket you have on there?  FZR wheel yes?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on May 22, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: p51bombay on May 21, 2013, 10:47:00 PM

Those are really big!

What's that rear caliper bracket you have on there?  FZR wheel yes?

They're not THAT big.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/8153601633_60ce4c42a7_c.jpg)

This is big.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8066/8153616130_971e608573_c.jpg)

That is a '94-96 FZR600R wheel and caliper.

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: p51bombay on May 22, 2013, 01:56:34 AM
Have you done a thread on that brake and wheel mod?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on May 22, 2013, 04:33:38 AM
Quote from: p51bombay on May 22, 2013, 01:56:34 AM
Have you done a thread on that brake and wheel mod?

The only contribution I can make to that mod is, find a wrecker selling an FJ rear wheel that you recognise from the photo as being a 17" and do a deal with him for the lot. It came all bolted up with brakes and M/C, didn't even have to bleed it. Just changed swing arms over. $180 AND a brand new PR2. Sometimes you just get lucky.

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: p51bombay on May 22, 2013, 08:40:11 AM
so basically, someone else did the mod, the bike went to the breaker and he didn't know it wasn't standard and he could charge a premium for it?  Any pix?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on May 22, 2013, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: p51bombay on May 22, 2013, 08:40:11 AM
so basically, someone else did the mod, the bike went to the breaker and he didn't know it wasn't standard and he could charge a premium for it?  Any pix?

Yep, it was on ebay and he had a photo of the complete bike but was selling the parts individually. I asked about the condition of tyre as I was going on a trip that weekend and was cutting it fine for time. He said if it was no good he'd find another wheel, he had a few FJ's around. I said I wanted THAT one. It turned up by courier the following afternoon, he had just pulled the swing arm bolt and sent the lot. I couldn't believe it when I opened the packaging and saw the barely scrubbed in PR2 which at the time cost about $300 here.

What exactly do you want pics of? The spacers either side look standard but I have never measured them. To the eye it would appear to bolt straight in.
I'm sure someone here has tried it and will know what, if anything, needs doing. I've had 4 or 5 different brand 180 tyres on it and no clearance problems.

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on June 09, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Hi Noel, I see you have the Delkevic slip on's on your bike, Im looking at getting the 9" can's without the baffles, is that the ones you had on your bike, in the pic it looks like the 14" pipes where you can remove the baffles.
How loud are the 14" with the baffles taken out and did you have to re jet your carbs? do you also have the 9" pipes?

Thxs
Jim
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on June 09, 2013, 09:51:39 AM
Jim, I worded that first post poorly. I don't and never have had the stubby's but I have heard them. they sound great when you fire it up and give it a rev but I think the novelty would ware thin if you  rode it any distance and were ringing it out.

My 14" with the baffles out are pretty loud at revs under load, but not enough to draw unwarranted attention around town, unless I open it up.

Depends what sort of riding you do. I do 600km + day rides and find it unobtrusive at cruise but angry when you open it up. Any louder and I would be sick of it by the end of the day.
I've never had anyone ride my bike past me but from the riders seat it is louder than most of the 4 into 1 systems on other bikes I have ridden. For me, it is exactly how I want it and I do like a good sounding exhaust. Difficult to put into words. Like trying to describe how hot a curry is.

I did the unipod filters at the same time and I did re jet it. Without the baffles the exhaust is straight through.

I think if it was any louder, at mid to high revs at WOT you would be drawing a lot of attention to yourself, and not all from admirers!
Noel

Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on June 09, 2013, 10:11:56 AM
Thxs Noel, that helps me out, I don't do those long distance riding any more and I do love loud sweet sounding bike, I'll have to give it little thought but I tend to be leaning towards the stubbies.
Do you remember what size main jets you put in and did you change the needle position at all or did you keep the on the 3rd groove? better yet how did you set up ur carb's if you remember.

Jim

Any word on the mufflers or can's from RPM ???
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: racerrad8 on June 09, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: thunder1295 on June 09, 2013, 10:11:56 AM
Any word on the mufflers or can's from RPM ???

Nope, the two emails went unanswered that I sent last week...

I will be reaching out again this week...

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: nurse on June 09, 2013, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: ribbert on May 20, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
Quote from: mrtom on May 20, 2013, 04:15:09 AM




(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7018/6587192713_019793b258_b.jpg)

Noel

Noel, I noticed you removed the rear pegs, was this a personal choice thing or do the delkevics interfere somehow?

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on June 09, 2013, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: nurse on June 09, 2013, 03:07:17 PM

Noel, I noticed you removed the rear pegs, was this a personal choice thing or do the delkevics interfere somehow?

Cheers

Mike

Mike, that is entirely coincidence, I had just fitted a new chain and couldn't find my chain tool. In the absence of said tool, the best way I have found over the years to get an even spread on the head of the joining link pin is to stick a ball bearing on the pin with some grease and hit it with a hammer. Gives a perfectly uniform spread. I could not find a ball bearing the appropriate size so used the one from the foot peg. For those that have never pulled one apart, a spring loaded ball is what locks it the upright position.
There was no urgency to refit it as I don't take pillions. It is refitted now though and has nothing to do with the exhaust.

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on June 09, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
Mike, if you don't do long rides anymore, the stubbies would sound great cruising around, but I think you will find where you can use the top half of the tacho with full throttle will be limited by sheer noise. Even with mine I feel somewhat constrained as to where I can open it up.

What the hell, just buy the stubbies and see how you like them. If you find them too loud, drop and few dollars and sell them on ebay.

Noel
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on June 11, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
Well I ordered the stubbies and it will be here Fri. can't wait to make some noise.
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: HARTLESS on June 16, 2013, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: ribbert on May 22, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: p51bombay on May 21, 2013, 10:47:00 PM

Those are really big!

What's that rear caliper bracket you have on there?  FZR wheel yes?

They're not THAT big.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7249/8153601633_60ce4c42a7_c.jpg)

This is big.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8066/8153616130_971e608573_c.jpg)

That is a '94-96 FZR600R wheel and caliper.

Noel
if you think that is big, fast forward to 2:12 on this video.... haha
Car & Vehicle Win / Fail Compilation PART 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It2Cy3EQZzk#ws)
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on June 22, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Got my new can's, had them about a week now and love the sound, yep their loud
just they way I wanted them to be, they even included the baffels which weren't suppose to come with them.
How loud are the can's, no louder then a yosh 4 into 1 on a on a GSXR 1100

      (http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y453/thunder1295/IMG_00000103_zps1878c1c7.jpg)











Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 02, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
I blame you lot. I've just ordered these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FJ1200-Twin-350mm-Oval-Stainless-Steel-Silencer-Exhaust-Kit-/290919594554?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item43bc28ba3a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FJ1200-Twin-350mm-Oval-Stainless-Steel-Silencer-Exhaust-Kit-/290919594554?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item43bc28ba3a)

Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: 1tinindian on July 02, 2013, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: thunder1295 on June 22, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Got my new can's, had them about a week now and love the sound, yep their loud
just they way I wanted them to be, they even included the baffels which weren't suppose to come with them.
How loud are the can's, no louder then a yosh 4 into 1 on a on a GSXR 1100

      (http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y453/thunder1295/IMG_00000103_zps1878c1c7.jpg)

I would love to hear these. Can you take some video of it running for me?

Leon
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ribbert on July 02, 2013, 07:23:17 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on July 02, 2013, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: thunder1295 on June 22, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Got my new can's, had them about a week now and love the sound, yep their loud
just they way I wanted them to be, they even included the baffels which weren't suppose to come with them.
How loud are the can's, no louder then a yosh 4 into 1 on a on a GSXR 1100

      (http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y453/thunder1295/IMG_00000103_zps1878c1c7.jpg)

I would love to hear these. Can you take some video of it running for me?

Leon

Have you had these at full throttle between 5000 - 9000 rpm yet?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: movenon on July 02, 2013, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: ELIMINATOR on July 02, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
I blame you lot. I've just ordered these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FJ1200-Twin-350mm-Oval-Stainless-Steel-Silencer-Exhaust-Kit-/290919594554?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item43bc28ba3a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FJ1200-Twin-350mm-Oval-Stainless-Steel-Silencer-Exhaust-Kit-/290919594554?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item43bc28ba3a)



Please update on these after you run them. I am eye balling them also.  :good2: :good2:
George
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 03, 2013, 07:00:39 AM
Will do.
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on July 04, 2013, 06:24:11 AM
Up date on the Delkevic shorty cans, had them for a few weeks and just love the sound of them, between idle and 2200 rpm they give out a low rumble almost sounding like a twin, after that they start singing like a pure sport bike all the way to redline. Are they loud enough to attract attention, yep you bet but then that's the whole point isn't it.
I mentioned before comparing to a Youshie 4 into 1 on a 1100 Gix-er   " son's bike" and no they aren't as loud .
I like the looks of them to being short and the weight saving from the stock mufflers, not sure how much weight but quite a bite.

Try to get a video up later this week.

Jim

Looks like I have a set of stock mufflers for sale that are in near mint shape...lol
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 04, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Silencers arrived tonight. I took the old silencers off, I've offered up the new silencers and connecting pipe :wacko3:  I can't seem to get the silencer to sit correctly. :shok: Humid here, and I'm too hot to carry on.

try again tomorrow.

Ribbert, did you find it easy to fit?
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: thunder1295 on July 04, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
Mine were a bit of a pain to line up, have to mess around with the connecting pipes, once you get them lined up
the cans go on no problem.

Jim
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: 1tinindian on July 04, 2013, 04:42:40 PM
I had to fiddle-fuck-around with mine as well, but they fit nice now.
Keep at it mate, you'll get there!

Leon
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 05, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
had another play just now. Seems to be almost there. :good2:
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 06, 2013, 08:41:27 AM
Pig of a job, but done now. Partially my fault, as I was trying to put the silencer clamp at the back of the footrest hanger, instead of on the outside. Second silencer was easier to fit after using washing up liquid on the silencer clamps rubbers, made it easier to rotate.
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 06, 2013, 09:39:18 AM
Bump stop missed the mainstand, if I rotated the link pipe the silencer wouldn't fit where I w3anted. I'll make something up to suit.(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r150/210686/20130607FJ1200Sile3ncers006_zpsbe98904b.jpg)
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 06, 2013, 09:45:11 AM
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r150/210686/20130607FJ1200Sile3ncers004_zps23496ac5.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r150/210686/20130607FJ1200Sile3ncers003_zpse84bafd4.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r150/210686/20130607FJ1200Sile3ncers002_zps4882f728.jpg)

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r150/210686/20130607FJ1200Sile3ncers001_zps1cd4e721.jpg)
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: Arnie on July 06, 2013, 09:34:08 PM
Looks good, but if it were mine I'd try to get the can further forward so there's more support from that rear strap.

Arnie
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 07, 2013, 03:30:07 AM
Not going to happen, no more room for it to slide forward.  Mine are marginally further forward than ribbert's.
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: fj11.5 on July 07, 2013, 04:15:19 AM
Shorten the mid pipes
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: ELIMINATOR on July 07, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
Not a great deal to cut off, not much straight pipe either end.
Title: Re: stubby can mod
Post by: fj11.5 on July 07, 2013, 04:42:06 PM
Even 1/2" either end of the mid pipe would give an extra inch further foward with the pipe