Well,
I am working on a customers bike in preparation for the WCR. One of the tasks is to adjust the valves no problem I say...
The I found this when I removed the tank and pressure washed the engine to get all of the oil off.
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The valve cover was literally glued on and had to be pried off with a screwdriver.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover001_zps3b9fd9da.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover001_zps3b9fd9da.jpg.html)
Here is the glue on the head of some of the bolts and chain guide that got slimed when it was being put together.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover004_zps7b95f80e.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover004_zps7b95f80e.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover008_zps57f59fb8.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover008_zps57f59fb8.jpg.html)
Here is the bottom of the valve cover and the hangers that are still stuck to the gasket.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover002_zps7524c8b9.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover002_zps7524c8b9.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover005_zps12bfcb73.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover005_zps12bfcb73.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover006_zpsde435e1c.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover006_zpsde435e1c.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover003_zps08d8512e.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover003_zps08d8512e.jpg.html)
Here are a few of the hangers from the inside of the engine that I was able to just lift off from the interior of the engine.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/CraigValveCover009_zps851d136e.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/CraigValveCover009_zps851d136e.jpg.html)
I think I am going to pull the pan too and make sure the pick-up screen is not full of the glue too.
Please do not use any type of sealant on the valve cover gasket. It is a rubber gasket that is the seal, not the glue. The seal is also controlled by the valve cover bolt grommets. If they are hard, then the valve cover gasket will leak.
The has been a public service message from RPM
Randy - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com)
Wow, that's dodgy, about all I use is a smear of rtv on the rounded portion on the gasket sides
Old school 70's and 80's car valve cover mentality. May be OK for an old V-8. Not so good on an FJ.
Fred
Quote from: fj11.5 on May 18, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
Wow, that's dodgy, about all I use is a smear of rtv on the rounded portion on the gasket sides
+1 A very little dab will do. If properly TQ'ed down they will last for a long time. Reused mine at least 3 times now and still no leaks...
George
Dang thats nasty..... i bet the pickup screen is covered...... dang good thing it didnt starve for oil and blow up!
KOokaloo! (without all the goop please) :good2:
yeah that sucks
i had an old vision that the po did the same sort of job with excess rtv
eventually the the excess broke loose and clocked the pickup and she ran dry suddenly at 80kph (50mph?)
interesting having the back wanting to overtake going down a hill at that speed
:shout: F###witt cannot believe any one could be that stupid :crazy:
Baldy
I'll always put my hand up for being stupid, but i'd never do that.
rtv is like vegemite on toast, not jam
Someone's going to catch a lot of crap at the rally! Should all be fun!
just goes to show "no on can fuck you like you can fuck yourself." Would you try to fly a plane with out instruction?? no... why not take the time to learn how to work on your bike properly, before you make big mistakes and destroy your ride.. Some folks just don't get it....
Eric M
Sounds like a "Drinks Bitch" nomination to me.
I have no idea who the owner is. Before the member gets fully roasted over the proverbial camp fire. A little roasting during the WCR maybe. :dance2:
Could it be possible that the offending person is the PO of said FJ that performed this heinous act????
Fred
Whoa fellas , put the pitchforks and torches down.
This "goo job" was the act of the previous owner of the fj in question.
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 19, 2013, 01:22:22 PM
Whoa fellas , put the pitchforks and torches down.
This "goo job" was the act of the previous owner of the fj in question.
Well that just throws a wet blanket on the whole thing.... I am sure other opportunities will come along between now and the rally.
cheer up Monkey , how's your potato cannon proof vest coming along? :biggrin:
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 19, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
cheer up Monkey , how's your potato cannon proof vest coming along? :biggrin:
I prefer to dodge it, that's more of an Iron Man thing. :good2:
I was not implying the owner did this to his bike, but someone that worked on it did.
He only does minor work to the bike which is why it is here for me to repair.
Randy - RPM
Is it the "Haynes" manual that says to dab some silicone sealant onto that gasket?
Maybe that's what led Bubba down the goopy path.
Hmmm, sometimes a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Ouch...
I thought mine was bad when half the grommets on the cover bolts were missing and a PO had used silicone to seal around the bolts..
I've heard the same goes for thread lock
Andy
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 19, 2013, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 19, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
cheer up Monkey , how's your potato cannon proof vest coming along? :biggrin:
I prefer to dodge it, that's more of an Iron Man thing. :good2:
so you're going to share Gwyneth Paltrow's mobile number with us or are you keeping that under the potato cannon proof vest (popcorn)
sorta back on topic, I agree that the glue/goop solution sucks, but who's knows what was going on at the time to contribute to the solution.
Time to fess up...In the past I have been guilty of doing this... Rest assured that fucker did not leak....
Lesson learned :flag_of_truce:
[edit] in my case, the statute of limitations have expired for this offense, so...
NO, I ain't gonna be your Drinks Bitch. (at least not for this....)
Okay uze guys...the bike in question be that of Zari's. This jacked up service was completed prior to my even owning the jewel. It's been over 10 years since this was done, you can only imagine how overdue the service. Nonetheless, that be that. See you in Petaluma for the fun
Pat , I agree, should not have leaked , but Randy said he pressure washed the engine to get all the oil off. Must have been coming from the top down.
I've seen worse.
Once upon a time, back when I lived in NYC, I bought an Astro van. About a week after I bought it it started emitting clouds of smoke big enough for New Jersey to take notice at every stoplight. I couldn't figure out where the smoke was coming from, it seemed to be coming from EVERYWHERE.
Long story short, this being a van and the engine being halfway inside under a "doghouse", the oil filler on the standard valve cover is inaccessible. To fix this there is an S-shaped filler tube that goes into the valve cover and comes out under the hood in the front. At the point where this tube goes into the cover there is a big rubber grommet. This grommet can be found at any parts store for $3.95, almost every GM van uses it.
What I had instead of this grommet, courtesy of the PO, was a glob of silicone the size of a small grapefruit. At least three tubes worth. That's $15 of silicone to do the job of a $3.95 part. This didn't seal worth a damn and allowed oil to splash onto the exhaust manifold, which is where the smoke was coming from. I pulled the valve cover and found silicone all over the rockers, floating in oil, and in a bunch of other places.