Does any one know where i can get a chain seal guard 36y-22151-01-00 for my 1985 FJ 1100 Ive been looking on line all morning :flag_of_truce:
i look on e-bay' missed one 3 weeks ago :ireful: thanks Mark
Ok so it took me a little bit to remember what 22151 was. This protects the swingarm from the chain at the pivot. I don't no of any after market ones. Looks like Yamaha is out of stock, maybe discontinued. You can try 2kt-22151-00-00 this fits the 89 and up FJ1200. Also Yamaha has a part locator for discontinued parts. Your local Yamaha dealer can do this. Hope this helps.
Kurt
The same part is used on 84'-87' models. Hope this helps some.
Fred
Pretty sure I spotted one on ebay, under, yamaha fj chains
Thanks for the info. i might have to do so modification to make something work :good2:, thanks again ,,Mark G
I got one for my 93 model from a Yamaha dealer last year.
Randy at RPM has them, but they are for the 89-93 FJ1200's...
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ASAG (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ASAG)
So, anyone had luck in finding a similar guard for 1100?
I see the newer one is a bit different, but can it be fitted on an '85?
Quote from: balky1 on July 28, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
So, anyone had luck in finding a similar guard for 1100?
I see the newer one is a bit different, but can it be fitted on an '85?
This part is in the USA. I do not know if there is international shipping available.
Here is the link to the website. http://powaymotorcycle.com/SanDiego/used-bikes/ (http://powaymotorcycle.com/SanDiego/used-bikes/)
The part that you are looking for is in Box 75
https://picasaweb.google.com/114333149059306462902/UsedParts?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrL0bzw-deBlgE&feat=flashalbum#5401134160083592434 (https://picasaweb.google.com/114333149059306462902/UsedParts?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrL0bzw-deBlgE&feat=flashalbum#5401134160083592434)
Fred
You could also buy a swingarm that has the seal.
On this one the seal looks to be in good nick:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS)
Quote from: 4everFJ on July 28, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
You could also buy a swingarm that has the seal.
On this one the seal looks to be in good nick:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS)
Thanks, good find! I was looking ebay, but must have missed it.
Quote from: aviationfred on July 28, 2016, 08:10:25 AM
Quote from: balky1 on July 28, 2016, 07:09:06 AM
So, anyone had luck in finding a similar guard for 1100?
I see the newer one is a bit different, but can it be fitted on an '85?
This part is in the USA. I do not know if there is international shipping available.
Here is the link to the website. http://powaymotorcycle.com/SanDiego/used-bikes/ (http://powaymotorcycle.com/SanDiego/used-bikes/)
The part that you are looking for is in Box 75
https://picasaweb.google.com/114333149059306462902/UsedParts?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrL0bzw-deBlgE&feat=flashalbum#5401134160083592434 (https://picasaweb.google.com/114333149059306462902/UsedParts?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrL0bzw-deBlgE&feat=flashalbum#5401134160083592434)
Fred
Thanks!
Enquiry sent.
Ivan
...HOWEVER...
Used ones that I've encountered crumble into pieces, just by looking at them!
Steve
I have toyed with the idea of getting this part made since I discovered they are now made of Unobtainum. I have the part off my '86 and it is in good shape. When the schedule permits I will reverse engineer this part and post up a drawing/CAD file that any machine shop can use to make a new part. It will not be very cost effective but it will be an option. There are a few members here that can machine parts and or have access to machine services so who knows where this will go. Randy may even offer the part in the future. I will also look for less expensive ways to replace this part during my efforts. Stay tuned....
Could these be replicated using 3D printer?
I am sure the shape can be duplicated, but a material that would be durable is in question. If you find the material that can be printed I can still provide a 3D file. But it will take me some time before I can pull away from my current project to make the file.
Quote from: poker007 on May 10, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
i might have to do so modification to make something work :good2:, thanks again ,,Mark G
What we ended up doing on Mark's bike was install the
89-93 Swing Arm Guide (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ASAG). I installed two nut-serts into the swing arm at the mounting points for the current part.
That was on of those things we did prior to Mark's untimely death while riding that very FJ.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: krusty on July 28, 2016, 05:20:14 PM
Could these be replicated using 3D printer?
I never worked with one, but from what I have seen, anything can be done with it. Only question is the material you can print it in. Since it is hard to find these and some rubber grommets also, and with years progressing, I think most of us will need some sooner or later.
Quote from: racerrad8 on July 28, 2016, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: poker007 on May 10, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
i might have to do so modification to make something work :good2:, thanks again ,,Mark G
What we ended up doing on Mark's bike was install the 89-93 Swing Arm Guide (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ASAG). I installed two nut-serts into the swing arm at the mounting points for the current part.
That was on of those things we did prior to Mark's untimely death while riding that very FJ.
Randy - RPM
That was what I was also thinking to do if nothing else comes up.
As far as I remember, the original guard has - at least partly - an internal metal frame.
I think it would be impossible to make anything durable with a 3D printer and very difficult machining a part.
I think Randy's suggestion is the way to go.
Quote from: 4everFJ on July 28, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
You could also buy a swingarm that has the seal.
On this one the seal looks to be in good nick:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS)
"...hinterradschwinge..."
I like the sound of that. :good2:
Quote from: rlucas on July 29, 2016, 07:11:54 AM
Quote from: 4everFJ on July 28, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
You could also buy a swingarm that has the seal.
On this one the seal looks to be in good nick:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-Fj1-200-FJ-47E-1XJ-Schwinge-hinten-Hinterradschwinge-/190974603981?hash=item2c76f932cd:g:GRIAAOxyTjNSijLS)
"...hinterradschwinge..."
I like the sound of that. :good2:
Yeah, the Germans have many cool words, like "Bumsen".... :pardon:
I'm gonna use it as a term of endearment: "Bitte, meine kleine hinterradschwinge..."
Is this the back guide piece to the part in question? This is the only thing left on my 84 - and after discovering it hanging by a thread from the metal hanger on the swing arm, I reattached it using golf club glue. Don't laugh, golf club glue is holding some of my front fender and fairing cracks together perfectly. Looking with a flashlight along the top of the swing arm as it approaches the sprocket, I don't see anything separating it from the chain. But also don't see any evidence that the chain ever rubs against the swing arm. Looking at this guide I reattached to the under side of the swing arm (its been a year or more) there is clear evidence of wear. So chain lash on the underside of the swing arm further away from the sprocket is an issue. I guess I need to look at finding a new one.
Quote from: fjbiker84 on July 29, 2016, 08:45:12 AM
Is this the back guide piece to the part in question? This is the only thing left on my 84 - and after discovering it hanging by a thread from the metal hanger on the swing arm, I reattached it using golf club glue. Don't laugh, golf club glue is holding some of my front fender and fairing cracks together perfectly. Looking with a flashlight along the top of the swing arm as it approaches the sprocket, I don't see anything separating it from the chain. But also don't see any evidence that the chain ever rubs against the swing arm. Looking at this guide I reattached to the under side of the swing arm (its been a year or more) there is clear evidence of wear. So chain lash on the underside of the swing arm further away from the sprocket is an issue. I guess I need to look at finding a new one.
Yes, that's the thing in question, but yours looks kinda strange. Check the parts microfiche how it really should look like. I see clear metal on yours, it should be rubberized.
I have what is probably an early model 84. I remember seeing the data plate on the frame showing that it was manufactured in 83 and the engine / frame # is H50-000309. So it may be that Yamaha decided to upgrade this part half way through the model year.
Quote from: fjbiker84 on July 29, 2016, 07:07:45 PM
I have what is probably an early model 84. I remember seeing the data plate on the frame showing that it was manufactured in 83 and the engine / frame # is H50-000309. So it may be that Yamaha decided to upgrade this part half way through the model year.
Interesting. :shok:
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 28, 2016, 02:25:34 PM
...There are a few members here that can machine parts...
:yes:
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Hey Mark, how are those highway pegs working out?
Bill
Quote from: CutterBill on August 04, 2016, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 28, 2016, 02:25:34 PM
...There are a few members here that can machine parts...
:yes:
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Hey Mark, how are those highway pegs working out?
Bill
Quite well, but I don't get much use out of them lately. I still have the "How To" write up I started, once work slows down I will get it posted.
Possible supplier:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=16984.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=16984.0)
Give your vote.