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Title: gas milage
Post by: ANVIL99 on May 07, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
Hi guys,I was thinking my new old 1992 fj was running rich and using more fuel than normal.I rode a mixed ride today city, hiway  and  achieved 170 km on a half tank of gas(tank was full).
Does this seem like normal or bad fuel economy?If I run at 160 kph on the hiway for a while you can watch the the fuel gage  drop 1 tick every 5 mins it seems.
thanks
1992 fj1200abs  75,000 kms  bikes runs fantastic.
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Harvy on May 07, 2013, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: ANVIL99 on May 07, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
Hi guys,I was thinking my new old 1992 fj was running rich and using more fuel than normal.I rode a mixed ride today city, hiway  and  achieved 170 km on a half tank of gas(tank was full).
Does this seem like normal or bad fuel economy?If I run at 160 kph on the hiway for a while you can watch the the fuel gage  drop 1 tick every 5 mins it seems.
thanks
1992 fj1200abs  75,000 kms  bikes runs fantastic.

Sounds about right to me. I will get 300 -350 Kms a tank depending on how hard I push it.

Cheers
Harvy
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: FJmonkey on May 07, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
With my bone stock 86' on original carbs I was getting an average of 49.3 MPG, tracked from mid 2011 through 2012 (yea, I track every fill-up). Then I re-jetted and put UNI pods and Suppertrap slip-ons on. Now my MPG is averaging 45.3. I hope that helps you get a reference...
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 08:05:06 PM
I would do back flips if my '84 got even 40mpg...that 1350 is thirsty. 36-38mpg is the norm for me.
#45 pilots and 127.5 mains will do that to you....along with drawing in 22% more air and fuel.
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: FJmonkey on May 07, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 08:05:06 PM
I would do back flips if my '84 got even 40mpg...that 1350 is thirsty. 36-38mpg is the norm for me.
#45 pilots and 127.5 mains will do that to you....along with drawing in 22% more air and fuel.
What can you expect from an Over Achiever and polishing freak. Imagine how much more you would lose if you failed to keep it all clean...????
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 08:36:45 PM
Yea, that coefficient of drag can be a bitch....
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: FJmonkey on May 07, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 08:36:45 PM
Yea, that coefficient of drag can be a bitch....
:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: pdxfj on May 07, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
I've got you all beat for shitty gas mileage.. :lol:

It's a stretch to get 160 miles out of a tank on my bike...  My folks live 165 miles from me..door to door.. Leave with a full tank and have to stop before I get there and fill up again.. 5+ gallons each time..  Plugs look good..

Stock engine, uni-filters, upped jetting, 4-1 exhaust.. and some really worn out slide needles and E-Tubes..

I know the slide needles and e-tubes are the problem.  Carbs have been totally cleaned and new guts installed.  Now.. if I hadn't fubard one of my floats while putting things back together, I'd be riding..  :dash2:
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: fintip on May 07, 2013, 10:36:37 PM
34-41, probably average about 37. Haven't touched the carbs yet. Stock everything 86. Lately my averages have been higher for some reason, getting more 40's and 38's than usual.

I stop every 100-125 miles to fill up pre-emptively, however, as my petcock has monkey's syndrome. :(
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 07, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
With my bone stock 86' on original carbs I was getting an average of 49.3 MPG, tracked from mid 2011 through 2012 (yea, I track every fill-up). Then I re-jetted and put UNI pods and Suppertrap slip-ons on. Now my MPG is averaging 45.3. I hope that helps you get a reference...

Mark(monkey) should not be aloud to post on the gas milage topics. Never heard of anyone squeezing milage out like he does. Not that I don't believe him, I do. Ive seen it but don't understand it. I get about 38 mph. Like other normal FJ's!
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
mean 38 MPG. I think Mark goes 38 MPH. :blush:
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: fintip on May 07, 2013, 11:10:12 PM
 :lol:
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
mean 38 MPG. I think Mark goes 38 MPH. :blush:
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 11:53:32 PM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
Mark(monkey) should not be aloud to post on the gas milage topics.....

Freudian slip Michael?
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: movenon on May 08, 2013, 05:08:37 AM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 07, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
With my bone stock 86' on original carbs I was getting an average of 49.3 MPG, tracked from mid 2011 through 2012 (yea, I track every fill-up). Then I re-jetted and put UNI pods and Suppertrap slip-ons on. Now my MPG is averaging 45.3. I hope that helps you get a reference...

Mark(monkey) should not be aloud to post on the gas milage topics. Never heard of anyone squeezing milage out like he does. Not that I don't believe him, I do. Ive seen it but don't understand it. I get about 38 mph. Like other normal FJ's!

So my question is of riding style, does he keep his bike spooled up or does he lug it around ?  :unknown:
George
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Bones on May 08, 2013, 06:20:22 AM
I get about 300km before the gauge shows the big E, riding sedately. A lot less with the woman on board, even  though you don't feel it power wise.
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: FJmonkey on May 08, 2013, 07:05:10 AM
Quote from: movenon on May 08, 2013, 05:08:37 AM
So my question is of riding style, does he keep his bike spooled up or does he lug it around ?  :unknown:
George

You can ask Steve (MoparMan) this question. Before I put the UNI's and Suppertrap on we tested my alleged good gas mileage. We filled up at the same time and rode some of the good roads in Steve's nick of the hills. later that day we filled up again and I used less gas then Steve or Mike. As far as lugging it goes, Steve is the faster rider and Mike tends to fall back in the twisties. I still got better mileage than Mike. I guess it will get even better when I switch to 18/38 vs the 17/38 I have now...
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: movenon on May 08, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
I believe that you are getting the good mileage :good2:. I am not a MPG kinda guy but a curious one in general (Curious George, the other monkey).  I have a pet theory, its not so much the speed,  its the RPM you run at. I know, speed, drag, weight and all that stuff. In general I am just talking about the sweet spot in an engine.   On an engine test stand most motors get there best GPH figure running at peak TQ rpm. Which for an FJ would be up in an area where most probably don't cruse.
I know there is a world of difference between a test stand and the real hard cold windy world. I am no engineer just thinking out load. Don't want to start any digital fires  :dash2:.
You might get lower mileage with an 18 tooth front ? Or never get out of second gear :mocking:.  That said, I have 18/38 and love it for the comfort level. Suits my style of peddling....  :yahoo:
George
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: jscgdunn on May 08, 2013, 05:56:30 PM
Milage is around 200KM per tank on both our 92s.  On our 84 it is better as gearing is 17/38.  Notice quite a difference between myself (6'3 230) and my sons who are < 6 feet and 175.  Cannot say I have ridden it sedately for a full tank full....after all the throttle is meant to twist is it not...and milage is inversely related to twist...I read it in refereed journal somewhere?
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: movenon on May 08, 2013, 07:14:23 PM
If I could stop working on mine long enough I could tell you my mileage is.... :dash2: :dash2: FJ's are not MPG machines. I just fine pleasure in efficiency and knowing the limits. Gas stations all over the country (except parts of Nevada at 2:00 AM) pretty lonely out there....... :lol:
George
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Arnie on May 08, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
My normal mixed city/hwy riding gets me 150km to half tank, 250km to E on gauge, and 300-320km till I have to switch "reserve" ON.  This translates to 93, 155, and ~190 miles on my '91 with over 135,000 kms on the odo.  I have UniPods, slip on mufflers, and normal gearing but I also have a 7" high windscreen extension and a large tail pack (and I'm no lightweight).

Are those of you who have done plug chops compensated for the 'wasted spark' effect on color?

Arnie



Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: aviationfred on May 08, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
I have not ridden mine since February, I have changed the sprockets to 18/38 sprockets, The head is being rebuilt. Last time I checked milage I was able to do 43 MPG. I have a stock airbox with a UNI filter and had a full SuperTrapp exhaust. The sprockets were 17/42. I am thinking the MPG should go up a couple of points with the sprocket change and the fresh head. Not thinking the WMP exhaust will make much of a difference

Fred
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: baldy3853 on May 08, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on May 07, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
mean 38 MPG. I think Mark goes 38 MPH. :blush:
exactly you hit the nail on the head Mike  :rofl: :sarcastic: :lol:
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: Sabre093 on July 23, 2013, 12:38:04 PM
Got my best mileage to date 300 kms and when I filled up I put 17.54 litres in it to re-fill
Title: Re: gas milage
Post by: aviationfred on July 23, 2013, 12:58:50 PM
On my way back from Colorado to Kansas. I logged a leg of 233 miles, and put 4.4 gallons of fuel in the tank. 52.95 mpg. 120 miles of that was mountain roads and the remainder was super slab. I do have the tall gearing, sprockets are 18/38.

I have to give special thanks to Randy @RPM for the head rebuild back in May. I put 1938 miles on the bike in 4 days. The bike ran great, even in the high (9000ft+) elevations.

Fred