Hey Guy's,
Just wondering, my 87' has a 17" front, but a 16" rear, it was like this when I bought it, What are the advantages for going to a 17" rear?, thanks
The biggest advantage is a lot bigger selection of tires. There are not many 16 in. sport tires for the FJ. Big R
Wider tire and more tire options. The 16" very limited, 17" lots of choices, radials and sport tires. If you need a set of standard size tires for your FJ. I have a set of almost new Avons Aazro tires for sale.
Kurt
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 26, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
Hey Guy's,
Just wondering, my 87' has a 17" front, but a 16" rear, it was like this when I bought it, What are the advantages for going to a 17" rear?, thanks
MODERN RUBBER.
Radials, enormous tyre selection, wider tyre, more rubber on the road, more grip, looks cool and depending how you ride, handles better.
Modern tyre technology is amazing but the 16"s benefit very little, if any, from it because of the type of bikes they are mostly fitted to. There is not much demand on them going, stopping or cornering.
If you don't ride hard and none of the above is important to you the 16" is probably fine but the tyre choice is diminishing.
The 17" front (which you have) is far more important and generally carries a much stronger recommendation.
Noel
Remember, the diameter of the rim isn't what makes the difference. On that account, you end up with the same tire diameter, if not a tad smaller. The advantage gained is a shorter sidewall so probably less flex in the sidewall.
The bigger difference is the profile of the tire. The GSXR (easiest swap) rim is 2" wider than the FJ wheel. The tires that fits these rims are wider also, and have a more consistant and larger radius. Which I think just makes the bike feel much smoother and predictable leaning into corners whether you're riding fast or just cruising. Check out this post for a look at the profiles of a 16" compared to a 17"
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=search2 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=search2)
The tire on the 5.5" x 17" rim is only 3/4" of an inch wider than the Stock 3/5"x16" rim, but the profile isn't pinched on the 5.5" rim like it is on the 3.5" rim.
You can also see in the picture that the tire diameter looks the same with either rim.
As others have said, you can buy better rubber with the 17" rims also if that makes a difference to you.
Mark,
Linky no workee
Arnie
Quote from: Arnie on April 26, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Mark,
Linky no workee
Arnie
Thanks Arnie. Lets try this one. http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=6203.msg54785;topicseen#msg54785 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=6203.msg54785;topicseen#msg54785)
thanks guy's, all replies greatly appreciated, Think I've made up my mind, as I just put new tires on my FJ, when its time for new tires again, Ill try and find the 17' rim, again, thanks for the info
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 26, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
thanks guy's, all replies greatly appreciated, Think I've made up my mind, as I just put new tires on my FJ, when its time for new tires again, Ill try and find the 17' rim, again, thanks for the info
JMO, but I'd be looking for the wheel now, and have all the details of the swap worked out and ready to go on when it's time. :pardon:
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 26, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
Hey Guy's,
Just wondering, my 87' has a 17" front, but a 16" rear, it was like this when I bought it, What are the advantages for going to a 17" rear?, thanks
Shawn,
I just noticed that you refer to your bike as an 87'. I remember the photo of your bike in you introduction thread. The bike in the photo is a 89', possibly a Canadian or European 88'. You definitely do not have a 87'.
Fred
Quote from: not a lib on April 26, 2013, 05:11:43 PM
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 26, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
thanks guy's, all replies greatly appreciated, Think I've made up my mind, as I just put new tires on my FJ, when its time for new tires again, Ill try and find the 17' rim, again, thanks for the info
JMO, but I'd be looking for the wheel now, and have all the details of the swap worked out and ready to go on when it's time. :pardon:
+1
It's never to soon to start gathering parts.
Quote from: aviationfred on April 26, 2013, 05:34:17 PM
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 26, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
Hey Guy's,
Just wondering, my 87' has a 17" front, but a 16" rear, it was like this when I bought it, What are the advantages for going to a 17" rear?, thanks
Shawn,
I just noticed that you refer to your bike as an 87'. I remember the photo of your bike in you introduction thread. The bike in the photo is a 89', possibly a Canadian or European 88'. You definitely do not have a 87'.
Fred
Sorry Fred, but it is an 87', I'll take a pic of the tag on the front, There may have been some changes, not sure?, But it most certainly is an 87
Quote from: crzyjarmans on April 27, 2013, 08:19:31 AM
Sorry Fred, but it is an 87', I'll take a pic of the tag on the front, There may have been some changes, not sure?, But it most certainly is an 87
I owned an "1984 FJ" for 5 years. I bought it from a Yamaha dealer in CO, registered it in three states; (CO, GA and PA) all as an '84. I would have bet $20 that it was an 1984. It was not until someone on the Yahoo list pointed out that my color scheme was that of an '85 that I even questioned it. I then checked my VIN, and sure enough, it WAS an '85. A dealer, three states registration offices and I had had it wrong for 5 years!
Check you VIN to be sure.
Dan
FWIW, I agree with Dan and Fred... something must be hinky with the paperwork. :unknown:
here's a pic of tag
(http://www.fjowners.com/gallery/4/3242_27_04_13_7_35_55.jpeg)
That tag appears to have been tampered with.
Try removing the inner fairing panel and see what the number is there.
Quote from: not a lib on April 27, 2013, 08:46:23 AM
That tag appears to have been tampered with.
Try removing the inner fairing panel and see what the number is there.
will a instrument cluster fit an 89?
Although I do not see the tampering that was referenced, the VIN on the steering head is the way to tell for certain. The tags and even the bodywork can be messed with. Somewhere here, there is a key for Vin codifications and the corresponding years.
Dan
The torn spot and wrinkle on the left of the picture, combined with the fact that it certainly appears to be an '88 or '89 suggests to me that the sticker could possibly be from another bike.
Pulling the right hand inner fairing panel and comparing the numbers would confirm one way or the other.
Quote from: not a lib on April 27, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
The torn spot and wrinkle on the left of the picture, combined with the fact that it certainly appears to be an '88 or '89 suggests to me that the sticker could possibly be from another bike.
Pulling the right hand inner fairing panel and comparing the numbers would confirm one way or the other.
:good2:
Remove your seat
Remove the fuel tank (for me its easier to remove the panel)
Remove the right side air scoop (there is one screw under there that has to be removed attached to the panel)
Remove the right side inner fairing panel (two screws)
Look on the top of the the frame up toward the front
There is where the frame VIN number should be.
George
Shawn,
If this is a picture of your bike:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/3242_03_04_13_9_14_46.jpeg)
(pulled from one of your older posts)
...then it's a 1989 model.
For evidence, I refer to the color scheme, the forks (no anti-dive), four-pot front brake calipers, later model wheels (16" rear, 17" front), the side air scoops, fairing shape, mirror mount points, and the rear brackets where the original exhaust would bolt on (BEHIND the passenger foot peg). The rear shock linkage to the swingarm is very different, too, but I can't see from the photo.
I imagine that all those parts COULD have been swapped out on a 1987 bike, but it seems highly unlikely.
I would be willing to bet that the VIN number on the picture of the sticker you posted does NOT match what was originally stamped into the frame. As stated in a previous post, you need to remove the inner right-hand fairing cover to expose the VIN number stamped horizontally into the frame, up near the steering head.
The picture of the manufacture date and VIN number appears to have been tampered with:
(http://www.fjowners.com/gallery/4/3242_27_04_13_7_35_55.jpeg)
Again, for evidence, I refer to the wrinkles and tears in the sticker. Original stickers DO NOT have this appearance.
Not trying to rain on your parade, but it'll make a big difference if you're trying to find the right parts to fit. Not to mention any possible problems with the authorities.
Steve
(popcorn) (popcorn)
Somebody may have put the best bike together of two. Hope the frame and engine are same and match the paperwork, everything else just parts.
Kurt
thanks for clarifying, When I have the time, i'll check removing the fairing, with hope the numbers match, will reply soon
Hey Shawn,
I just pulled my fuel tank and you can read the numbers on the right side frame rail with a little head twisting. No need to remove the right side dash panel.
:good2:
George
thanks George, just havent takin' the time yet to look, maybe when I get home this afternoon, I take a look
OK have picture of vin stamped on frame
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/3242_04_05_13_9_50_37.jpeg)
It's the same vin that's is on the sticker, So the bike is most certainly a 87'
I would have to think, the P/O had put the 89 color scheme on this bike, He did mention the the brakes calipers where from a newer bike