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Title: Chinese Junk
Post by: ribbert on April 15, 2013, 04:12:28 AM
I like to research things before buying, something the net enables you to do infinitely.
I did this with my Chinese rotors. While there was much anecdotal evidence here, I looked around elsewhere as well.
Pretty much nothing but glowing reports from users everywhere I looked.
The only naysayers being those who had not actually used them prattling on about not trusting their lives to something as important as brakes with cheap Chinese rubbish and so on.
I came across a Hayabusa forum with a lot of members very happy with these rotors and found this post which might be of interest to anyone sitting on the fence and considering new discs.
I have a couple of thousand Km's on mine now and have subjected them to everything that is ever likely to be required of them and I am very happy with them.
I suspect with a third of the worlds manufactured goods now coming out of China we are trusting our lives daily to cheap Chinese products more than we realise. Many old and well respected brands have quietly moved their manufacturing there without fanfare.

A footnote for Aussies, forget about the yanks (or whoever) owning Vegemite, Hills Hoists are now made in China!!!!!!


My father works in a company that performs tests to weldings and metal fatigue in big structures (bridges, railways...) here in Portugal and Spain.
I ordered one of this Chinese rotors and gave it to him for him to test.
I posted the results on the Portuguese Hayabusa Forum
Forum Hayabusa Portugal :: Verificar tpico - Discos em flor opces e preos.

Ok, it is written in Portuguese but I'll can sum it up by saying that the "Arashi" rotor passed every single test. After heating, cooling, twisting, pressing and chemical abuse all came out fine.
One test that is particularly interesting is rotating the rotor in a machine that reads changes in a magnetic field crossed by the rotor thus enabling to "see" into the rotor to check the uniformity of the metal alloy.
By the way, the metal the rotor is made of it's called Martensitic Steel (AISI 420), just like the Galfers, Braking, EBC, etc. .
I've surfed the web and found everything: warped Arashi rotors, warped OEM rotors, warped Galfers, cracked Brembos, you name it. I guess these Arashi rotors are as good (or as bad...) as the others.

On a final note, I just wanted to say that you rarely get "what you pay for". Life does not work like that at all. Sure, the rule of thumb is that the more expensive something is, the better.
But for this type of simple, mass produced items, the final price little has to do with production costs. It has more to do with desire of ownership and pose value. It doesn't matter if a rotor- any brand -costs $1 do make if people are willing to pay $1000 for it.
I'm sure that if I erased the Galfer letters from a rotor set and engraved Chinese rotors with the Brembo logo and gave them to some one in this forum do drive-test them in his bike he would rave about the "Brembos" and trash the "Chinese".
Title: Re: Chinese Junk
Post by: aviationfred on April 15, 2013, 06:23:57 AM
I have a set of Arashi rotors on my FJ and I have no complaints. The bike has incredible stopping power with the addition of Blue spots and Stainless braided brake lines. I have yet to update/upgrade the master cylinder, that will be coming sometime soon.

Fred
Title: Re: Chinese Junk
Post by: baldy3853 on April 15, 2013, 08:50:00 AM
Thanks for this, am looking to replace my rotors on my FJR as one is warped after my last off  :good2:
Baldy
Title: Re: Chinese Junk
Post by: fj11.5 on April 15, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
Great info for those who have not used them,, I've had the so called cheap chinese wave disks for at least 12 months front and back ,and will buy them for the other bikes when I can,, well tested with emergency type stoppies, trailing through corners,wet roads ect,  no issues at all, , blue spots,braids,and 16mm radial mc, , excellent disks
Title: Re: Chinese Junk
Post by: oldktmdude on April 15, 2013, 06:02:53 PM
    I've been using one on the rear for over 2 years now with no complaints at all. My front rotors are almost due for replacement and will have no hesitation in buying a set of Arashi rotors. Great value for money in my opinion. Regards, Pete.       :i_am_so_happy: