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Title: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Woodsman on March 24, 2013, 04:31:48 AM
Just wondering what my options are apart from carrying a gallon of petrol with me till i run dry. Have no idea whether the switch works or not, think i recall the po saying something about the low fuel light not working which is no big deal as the gauge works fine.
What sort of miles roughly can i expect to get from the tank?
Thanks, Sean.
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: NJona86FJ on March 24, 2013, 06:25:36 AM
my 87 1tx i get about 370 before im reallllly looking bloody hard riding normally... tapped her out a bit(lot) today and got 280 before resrve light came on... but mine has (apparently ) a 22 litre tank with 5 litre reserve
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Woodsman on March 24, 2013, 07:25:05 AM
Specs suggest there is 24 litres in the tank, i have same 87 1tx model. Converting your km means i should get roughly 175 miles before i start spluttering.
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: NJona86FJ on March 24, 2013, 07:38:10 AM
yeah  i've run mine dead empty a few times... but never from a full tank.....still good to check with others mines a bit tired and old.... down on compression and needs some loving i could be a bit out and i'd hate to have to see you push it... they aint light trust me!!! but i'm sure you know that!!
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Arnie on March 24, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
I once got 400kms from a tank.  And was pushing.  Last tank of my trip to Bellingen, coming home I got 384km and had about 1/2 Litre left in the tank.

All any of us can do is tell you what OUR bike did for distance.  None of us can tell you what YOUR bike will do.  None of us can tell you exactly what the roads or weather or traffic was like, nor how exuberant we were with the throttle and revs.  The only way you'll know how far YOUR bike will go, in YOUR conditions, is to carry that gallon of petrol and run it dry.  Then you'll know.

Arnie
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: racerman_27410 on March 24, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
just run her as hard as you want and stop @ 150 miles for fuel.... repeat until a satisfying amount of Kookaloo has been obtained and or you have reached your destination.  :hi:

I have travelled 200 miles on a tank of fuel.... once.


Kookaloo!  :good2:
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: spsmith_fj1200 on March 24, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
I ran about 225 miles on a tank running the entire length of Skyline Drive south from from Front Royal and then back to Front Royal.  I knew last few miles heading back to Front Royal were downhill and there was a gas station very close to where Skyline Drive ended.  Skyline Drive has a 35 MPH speed limit so I was willing to gamble.  Normally 150 to 175 miles is when I want to stop.
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: movenon on March 24, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
Quote from: racerman_27410 on March 24, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
just run her as hard as you want and stop @ 150 miles for fuel.... repeat until a satisfying amount of Kookaloo has been obtained and or you have reached your destination.  :hi:

I have travelled 200 miles on a tank of fuel.... once.


Kookaloo!  :good2:
:good2: :good2: :good2: That's about 2 hours of seat time.......
George.  1.5 in Nevada.   
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: aviationfred on March 24, 2013, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: Arnie on March 24, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
I once got 400kms from a tank.  And was pushing.  Last tank of my trip to Bellingen, coming home I got 384km and had about 1/2 Litre left in the tank.

All any of us can do is tell you what OUR bike did for distance.  None of us can tell you what YOUR bike will do.  None of us can tell you exactly what the roads or weather or traffic was like, nor how exuberant we were with the throttle and revs.  The only way you'll know how far YOUR bike will go, in YOUR conditions, is to carry that gallon of petrol and run it dry.  Then you'll know.

Arnie


IMO, this is about the best explanation. We all have differnt riding conditions, modifications to out bikes. I consistantly get 200+ miles per tank with mine, A big disclaimer to add. I don't have any TWISTY's within a 5 hour ride.

Fred
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: FJmonkey on March 24, 2013, 09:21:57 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on March 24, 2013, 06:00:51 PM
I don't have any TWISTY's within a 5 hour ride.

Fred

I feel for you Fred, I really do... :empathy3:
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Arnie on March 24, 2013, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on March 24, 2013, 06:00:51 PM
I don't have any TWISTY's within a 5 hour ride.

Fred

Do let us know when you  get that down to 4 hours :-)

Arnie
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: ribbert on March 24, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: Arnie on March 24, 2013, 07:49:26 AM
I once got 400kms from a tank.  And was pushing.  Arnie


I would have been pushing for about 70Km's by then.

Noel
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: FJSpringy on March 24, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
I start looking after about 240k's  (popcorn)

on weekends away I take a 4lt can in one pannier, but only other people have ever used it   :rofl:
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: NJona86FJ on March 24, 2013, 11:37:30 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: (popcorn)
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Tony Mac on April 02, 2013, 06:04:05 AM
Quote from: FJSpringy on March 24, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
I start looking after about 240k's  (popcorn)

on weekends away I take a 4lt can in one pannier, but only other people have ever used it   :rofl:

Yes, I chicken out around 250 K's but I'm costantly amazed at how much fuel I still have left.
My fuel electrics are also stuffed. I have tried to find written info about the fuel level gauge and adjustments but have had no luck.
Good Luck with your quest.
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: baldy3853 on April 02, 2013, 06:16:14 AM
Last year when I was at the WCR and Colorado rally I was consistently getting 180 miles before going to reserve and our speeds were in the 70s & 80s and some a little higher  :good2:
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: movenon on April 02, 2013, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: Tony Mac on April 02, 2013, 06:04:05 AM
Quote from: FJSpringy on March 24, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
I start looking after about 240k's  (popcorn)

on weekends away I take a 4lt can in one pannier, but only other people have ever used it   :rofl:

Yes, I chicken out around 250 K's but I'm costantly amazed at how much fuel I still have left.
My fuel electrics are also stuffed. I have tried to find written info about the fuel level gauge and adjustments but have had no luck.
Good Luck with your quest.

This post might help you. Go to page 3 for pictures of the sender unit.  http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=6924.30 . It will not get you any better mileage but it is nice information  :unknown: In diesels roughly you get the best mileage at your peak torque rpm (on the engine test stand). On the FJ without looking at the spec's that would be around 6000 rpm? Of course lots of other factor's play into it, wind resistance (drag) being a big one. All I am suggesting is that low rpm may not get the best fuel economy. Something to think about. No matter what I usually got to get off a bike around 150 - 200 miles of travel anyhow.
George
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: FJ12PD on April 03, 2013, 08:57:18 AM
I know from experience[out of gas apparently in the middle of nowhere :shok:] on my Vmax that the electric reserve switches are touchy.
After thinking I had run out[ low fuel light came on, switched to reserve] as I rode my bike home from buying it, I shut it off, moved the switch back to on, then retried it heard the pump run a little then stop, retried to start started right up and ran for about a mile. I repeated this about  6 times and made it to a gas station to fill up :yahoo:.
. I looked up on the Vmax forums and was led to check the reserve switch. I pulled it apart and it was very corroded inside on the contacts :ireful:. I cleaned them and covered with dielectric grease and retested now the reserve worked :dance2:.
I know it is not a FJ but the system works the same, so take apart the switch and clean it first. THen  carry a small tank of fuel and test it.
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Jeff0308 on April 04, 2013, 06:52:32 AM
Hi Sean. The other (RESERVE FUEL SWITCH) topic was mine. I know my FUEL LIGHT doesn't work. Took my mower fuel tin for a ride with me till it ran out. Funny part is it ran out 100 metres from home  :good2: still haven't worked out if the fuel switch works properly but  Im not bothered. Just going to run off the odometer. Am going to get a new sender one day. Not fussed for the moment. You can still buy them new. If you decide to take your tank apart, consider treating it with TANK KREME. Best prevention of rust holes around. Beats buying a new tank.  Jeff
Title: Re: Reserve Switch.
Post by: Woodsman on April 04, 2013, 10:52:11 AM
Had the whole tank apart over winter. Chain inside and rattled it around till arms ached, friend soldered a pin hole at the time. Opted not to go down the liner route just yet. Sender works perfect, had no issue bolting it back in even though the gasket is prob the original. Still have not got round to running it down to see if reserve switch is working.
Going to stick in the new xjr starter from rpm over the weekend. Using the bike as my daily workhorse in and out to work.
Sean.