Hi all, me back again as promised. Matching Kawa clutch M/cyl now fitted - Carbs nearly sorted, had blocked idle mix in righthand carb making it run very rich on that cyl. Now much smoother at low revs, still needs balancing etc properly but very nearly there.
My FJ is a USA 1UX version, 1986 and here's a pic I made earlier.........
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u603/Havenmill/fj001this_zps768f8290.jpg)
This is a backwards modification question as someone has modded it and I think I want to change it back :yes: As you will see, at some stage it's had the correct fairing removed and an 1100 one fitted. To be honest don't really mind that but the fairing inners have been cut out and the 1200 ones I've got are too wide to fit. So, I've sourced a 1200 fairing/frame/h light, scoops, screen but it has no instrument binnacle, am I right in thinking the ones in the 1100 fairing will not fit the new fairing? or would they with the correct binnacle? Sorry should have pic of the fairing but will put one in tomorrow, it's exactly the same colours as the bike so I presume it should fit ok.
The other thing is I'm unsure what the correct fairing fixings should be like...the ones on the underneath of the headlight are no prob but what occurs around the scoops? I see from gallery pics that there are two rectangular black jobs behind the scoops, which mirror the vents in the sidepanel - are these just covers over the screws? I presume the scoops have bolts which continue through the fairing and ducts(which I also have) but don't have the bolts either, are they special types/heads or just normal bolts? Anyway would much appreciate any advice with this, don't really want to strip and disable it until I have all the necessary parts to reassemble. If anyone had pics of the correct components/fixings I'd very much appreciate it, sure I can assemble so it works/fits but would like to ensure it looks as it should. Thanks
Hi Windmill :hi:
I have an 86 but not familiar with the 1100 fairing.Here's some exploded diagrams that may help show the differences...
86 fj1200
(http://www.boats.net/images/diagrams/yamaha/MCY/1986/FJ1200S_SC/IMAGES/COWLING_1.png)
85 fj1100
(http://www.boats.net/images/diagrams/yamaha/MCY/1985/FJ1100L_LC_N_NC/IMAGES/FAIRING_1.png)
I suspect you will need the fairing stay,inner panels,air scoops (ducts are the same),mirrors,fairing & screen.When you say binnacle,I'm guessing you mean the inner panel around the instrument cluster (part No 20 on the 86 diagram).I think you will need one for your back to original conversion...
If you go to boats http://www.boats.net (http://www.boats.net) you can click on part No's to check different model compatibility.
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/FJ1200S/COWLING%201/parts.html (http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/FJ1200S/COWLING%201/parts.html)
Hope this helps...
Cheers :drinks:
Jeff P
Brilliant, Thanks Jeff. Spot on the two types I seem to have :i_am_so_happy: Very helpful, Thank You :good2:
Yes I already have the fairing, scoops, ducts, front frame , headlight, both inner side panels, mirrors and screen for the 1200 type. Dont have anything to bolt them all together or the panel to mount the cluster in though and from the diagrams it's very different.............oh well. Can't help wondering if the existing clocks will fit into the new panel when/if I get one, I suspect not :scratch_one-s_head: Here's the new fairing and the inside of the 1100 already fitted, just been out to take the pics.
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u603/Havenmill/fj013_zpsfd5c4b28.jpg)
(http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/u603/Havenmill/fj004_zps26cdb510.jpg)
Yep...I think you might need some clocks too,they are slightly different....bummer :dash2:....maybe someone on the forum has a spare.They come up on ebay pretty regularly.....
86 clocks....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/medium_1645_23_01_12_12_32_10_1.jpeg)
Cheers :drinks:
Jeff P
all the gauges / clocks ect are interchangable between models, just need extra wires conected if you have gauges from a 1200 and want them in an 1100 , just plug and play otherwise, its only the outer surrounds that are different,
Thanks again Jeff, envy you the bike in your pic........wish mine looked that good :bad: See you have the M/cyls similar to mine so I must be doing something right :yes:
Thanks FJ11.5, if the clocks would fit the panel that would be fine. The only diff I can see is the time clock? if that's so I can do without and save £50ish?
If I could ask one last very silly question as I haven't a handbook, which position on the rocker switch equates to reserve? Sorry it's real basic but since there's no panel over it I don't know. I presume when the reserve lettering is visible, ie up & pressed down at the front it's on reserve? :sorry:
OK sorry, can sense the disapproval from here :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: Found the handbook, there is just so much on this site I hadn't found it yet :unknown: However I still don't know, book talks about switching it to on position but there is no on pos marking on the inners I have. So still don't know if it's on when the reserve lettering can be seen :flag_of_truce: Yes could run it down but don't want to drag stuff into the line if I can help it, no extra filter in the line yet..........
My understanding is that when the fuel warning light comes on, the fuel pump is switched off. Moving the switch just turns the pump back on. It's not like manual on / off /reserve type fuel tap from years back.
Any one care to correct me? I'll look in the handbook in the garage in a few minutes.
Looked at the position of the switch. When the tank is full the switch is down nearest to the rider, reserve is the err. other way. :blum1: This switch never exactly struck me as being a piece of engineering excellence, a bit too vague.
ebay seller. gazbek2012 has a set of 1200 clocks for sale at the mo' £25 + £6 P & P
Quote from: fj11.5 on March 17, 2013, 06:34:05 PM
all the gauges / clocks ect are interchangable between models, just need extra wires conected if you have gauges from a 1200 and want them in an 1100 , just plug and play otherwise, its only the outer surrounds that are different,
I fitted a set of '93 gauges to my '85. They are very similar but are NOT an exact fit. The shape of the panel is slightly different but with a little re-shapeing with a 4" grinder makes it fit fairly well. As fj11.5 says the wiring plugs straight in but I had to add a couple of extra wires for the clock. Pete.
Thanks guys, hmm...will leave it switched towards me then with res hidden. Sounds a bit obvious but have learnt over the years never to expect or presume anything mechanical to be that logical :shok: Thanks for the explanation, give me a manual tap any day............so it drags stuff from bottom of the tank no matter which setting it's on, good job I drained all the muck out when I got it. Must get a line filter in quick.
Plot thickens with the clocks, maybe I'll try get the panel that fits first and then clocks to match if mine don't fit. Sounds like a plan :good: Anyway thanks for all the replies, much appreciated. Off to try to break the bead and change front tyre now, I'll take it out on that :biggrin: :drinks:
ahhhh woops, dont listen to me, ill lead you astray :biggrin:,, didnt know the 93,s were different again, ive only messed around with 84 to 89 gauges / bikes :dash1:
Quote from: fj11.5 on March 18, 2013, 06:07:32 AM
ahhhh woops, dont listen to me, ill lead you astray :biggrin:,, didnt know the 93,s were different again, ive only messed around with 84 to 89 gauges / bikes :dash1:
No worries mate :drinks: Trust me - I don't need leading astray........jobs already been overdone by experts :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: otherwise known as ex-wives :flag_of_truce:
Bloody tyre! bead broke no problem, off and back on 5 mins ago :ireful: Will have to find something else to take it out on now :shok:
Your 86' did not come with a fuel pump (84 to 87 are gravity feed), however, the reserve switch if still connected, performs the same. When the fuel gets low enough it cuts the fuel flow till you over ride it with the switch. In my opinion that was stupid to add to a bike with a trip meter, fuel gauge and a fuel warning light. As far as switch position goes, I believe it has already been posted correctly. The switched rocked to the back, forward part sticking up is the run position.
Thanks Mr Monkey, Ahhh............thought I couldn't hear a pump running, that'll be why then :yes:
Fuel gauge, that's another issue but have spare sender in a s/h tank if it's any good :scratch_one-s_head:
cool, im in the clear :biggrin:,, cant say the same for your fueling issue,, been a couple of sender / gauge issues lately, must be contagious
Might have known........I must have a low immune system or something :cray:
works in your favour, means you'll catch moditis easier :good2: ,, dont fight it
Too late.................. :dash1:
have you bought medication from rpm,, helps a lot
Inline filter will cause starvation problems on a graity-fed bike, you don't want to install one...
rich is right,, non fuel pump fj,s have a filter on the fuel tap/petcock , ,
You Guys! :wacko1: More Medication I can't handle, already have to take a bucket full before they let me out on my own.........oops :crazy:
Thanks for the tip, I did clean/rinse tank out and intend cleaning tap filter when I start sorting fuel gauge sender out. Surprised it would cause starvation problems though, having said that didn't I spot another filter in the quick release fuel pipe connector??? sure I did :unknown: I'll make sure tap filter is good then, have a spare of those too I think so will use the best one.
Exhausts are next, have been modded by someone adding new pipes to collector box to suit end cans. Pipes are too high, bashed in to avoid rear brake lever, welding really is bird ****, and they've cut the rocker off the centre stand to avoid them......... As the man said - if you can't take a joke.......... :bye2: :morning2: