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General Category => Yamaha FJ1100 / FJ1200 Running Problems => Topic started by: Slick on March 13, 2013, 08:11:21 AM

Title: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on March 13, 2013, 08:11:21 AM
I recently installed new boots (Air>Carb) because the old ones were torn. Yesterday, I attempted to sync the carbs. Although at first, everything was normal, I seem to have lost vacuum at some point. The rods on my "CarbTune Pro" stopped bouncing at idle. I could get them to move though; if I rev the engine, the rods would jump up as the engine was reving down. I checked for malfunction on the tool and everything looks to be working fine. Is there something I could be missing?


Side Note:
I synced my carbs last year with this tool, without a problem.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 13, 2013, 10:23:23 AM
Are you laying the Carb Tune flat? I did that and got wrong readings.
Hang the Carb Tune by it's hoses off your handgrip so the position is vertical. The rods move up and down much better that way.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: racerman_27410 on March 13, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
make sure you still have the restrictors in the tubing to the carb joints




KOokaloo!


Frank
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Mark Olson on March 13, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
you may need to adjust your valves.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: craigo on March 13, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
Just a thought, but has anyone messed with the little screws on the top of the carbs?  These are the air mixture screws??? Mine were buggered and couldn't get the carbs to sync until I reset them.

CraigO
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on March 15, 2013, 11:00:01 PM
Yes it is standing straight up, Yes the restrictors are still in place. Please remember that the gauges were working fine for a bit BEFORE i lost vacuum.

I have since tore the carbs apart and found a lot of gunk inside. Maybe this was part of my problem. I will report back with results when I get a chance to put them back on.

Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 16, 2013, 01:28:35 AM
How long did the carbs sit with old fuel in them? (...and DON'T lie!)

Today's gas wreaks havoc with carbs if it evaporates in them. Coats the insides with varnish.

Ever smell 20-year old gas?

:bad:

It's a smell that you CANNOT get rid of!
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on March 17, 2013, 04:33:48 AM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 16, 2013, 01:28:35 AM
How long did the carbs sit with old fuel in them? (...and DON'T lie!)

Today's gas wreaks havoc with carbs if it evaporates in them. Coats the insides with varnish.

Ever smell 20-year old gas?

:bad:

It's a smell that you CANNOT get rid of!

Gas was about 4 months old (I know I know). I did drain the bowls before starting, yet I would love to know how the bike was running so well with the carbs looking the way they did.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: SlowOldGuy on March 17, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Was the choke on when you were trying to sync?

DavidR.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on March 17, 2013, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on March 17, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
Was the choke on when you were trying to sync?

DavidR.

I choked to start the bike cold, waited for it to warm up, turned it off, hooked up sync tool, then started bike again w/o choke to sync.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 17, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
The Carb Tune itself has not sprung a vacuum leak -has it?  Can you lift a rod by a applying vacuum from another source?

Dan
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: FJmonkey on March 17, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
Pull off one hose at a time and see how the engine runs. You have to have vacuum, the carbs won't work without it.
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 17, 2013, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 17, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
The Carb Tune itself has not sprung a vacuum leak -has it?  Can you lift a rod by a applying vacuum from another source?

Dan

[Notice I DID NOT say: 'lift a rod by sucking on a tube"]...

Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on March 17, 2013, 10:59:53 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 17, 2013, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 17, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
The Carb Tune itself has not sprung a vacuum leak -has it?  Can you lift a rod by a applying vacuum from another source?

Dan

[Notice I DID NOT say: 'lift a rod by sucking on a tube"]...



Why not?
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 17, 2013, 11:51:34 PM
Reminds me, where the hell is Klavdy?

I misread the OP, is there no vacuum reading on any cylinders?
Title: Re: No vacuum during carb sync?
Post by: Slick on April 12, 2013, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 17, 2013, 11:51:34 PM

I misread the OP, is there no vacuum reading on any cylinders?

I could not get a vacuum on any cyl at the time. I have since tried to duplicate the loss of vacuum and it looks to have been from loss of fuel. It turns out that the person holding the tank was holding it to the wrong side. My carbs are all synced now, and the bike is running well. Thank you all for joining in on the goose-chase.