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Title: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: hook line n sinker on March 07, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Before my Fj1200s most recent demise i have been troubled by the sound of what is possibly the cam chain or i have been told the starter chain was wondering if anyone can tell me the bike is high mileage over 80,000 miles with 20 odd previous owners on the v5 lol is the noise a sign of imminent motor death ??

Heres the video on you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYedXs1qbg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYedXs1qbg)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
I have not even listened to the video...

The cam chain cannot make noise, it is held under constant & consistent tension by the spring loaded tensioner. In all of my years, I have never seen a tensioner that has ever been fully extended allow the chain to make noise.

The starter chain has no tension and can make noise if the RPM's are too low and the chain gets to whipping in the case. Make sure the idle is 1100 RPM

The other source of noise if the clutch pack. If you pull in the clutch and the noise goes away then that is the noise.

None of these are imminent death of the FJ, they will make the noise forever...

Plus, do not forget about the header pipe breaking internally, just as Pat...

I'll listen to the video later from my computer at home

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 07, 2013, 07:31:50 PM

From your video, it's clear that your bike has been "Punished"!!!

(popcorn)

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 07, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Plus, do not forget about the header pipe breaking internally, just as Pat...

Nope, not that....he has a '87
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: FJmonkey on March 07, 2013, 07:37:46 PM
Sounds like a starter chain, with the revs up the noise is gone, as the engine lugs the noise is worse. Make sure you have the idle set close to 1100 RPM, like Randy said, it keeps the chain from slapping the internals.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 07, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Plus, do not forget about the header pipe breaking internally, just as Pat...

Nope, not that....he has a '87

How does one really know?

We cannot really see the pipe in the video as they go past pretty quickly. Who is to say that they might not be double walled tubing...?

Those tubes look pretty big. The sounds seem to coincide with the engine miss as well.

It sounds really "tinny" and not deep enough to be a starter chain.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 07, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
The double wall pipes were on the '84-'85 FJ's. '86 on, they had the single wall (painted) stainless head pipes.

Looks to me to be a crusty Supertrapp exhaust (single wall)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 07, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
The double wall pipes were on the '84-'85 FJ's. '86 on, they had the single wall (painted) stainless head pipes.

Looks to me to be a crusty Supertrapp exhaust (single wall)

I know what years the pipe were double wall, but I am saying there is no way to know what some of the previous "20 odd owners" might have done over the years and it looks big to me.

HL&S, can you measure the tubing so we can determine if is could be the early style double wall, a single wall O.E. or aftermarket header.

It still sounds "tinny" to me.

Also, I would be interested in seeing a clear picture of the forks where the anti-dive used to be attached

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: bigbore2 on March 08, 2013, 12:20:05 AM
I occasionally get a chain noise, upon startup, during winter months [meaning a colder engine, 20-35 degrees from overnight] coming from the left side of the motor. Once warmed a little, it goes away or with slightly higher revs it goes away.  [84-1100] Which chain is that?  thanx
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 05:56:37 AM
I notice on the video (looking at the rev counter) that she's only ticking over at 500 - 800 rpm.  So, in my unprofessional opinion, as Mr. Monkey says, the revs need to be upped on tickover to a minimum of 1100/1200 rpm.  It sounds like the engine is slapping the chain around.

You couild hear the noise go away when you just gave it a tiny increase of revs.

To adjust the tickover - look at the back of the engine and below the carbs.  You'll see a large knurled screw sticking out.  Turniong it out will slow the bike down, and turning it in will increase the tickover.  This does all 4 carbs in one go (linked) so no need to fart about with individual settings.

Up the tickover to just over the "1" mark on the rev counter and report back!

Oh - have you checked the oil levels too?  If there's little oil there then top it up to the level indicated on the lower large casing on the bikes RHS.

I put a heavier oil in mine to quieten it down a bit (they recommend 10/40) but I use TSX 20/50 with no ill effects.  It is a Mineral oil, and not semi synthetic.

Oh, and still come back with the measurrements that Randy requested.  This helps to rule out all possibilities.  Best of luck. 
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: JMR on March 08, 2013, 07:50:16 AM
I will say I have seen on my personal FJ the tensioner very close to fully extended as most of the rubber tip had broken off. There was very  limited contact area with the tensioner blade as well secondary to chunking.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: andyb on March 08, 2013, 08:09:09 AM
^ or an aftermarket "upgrade" manual tensioner installed, and then never adjusted properly.


And to add to above:  Turn your idle up to where it's supposed to be, and I'll wager a fair amount of the noise goes away.  What's left will undoubedly be the starter chain flopping about.  Wonder why there isn't a little spring-loaded doohickey on the guide for that one...
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Mark Olson on March 08, 2013, 11:26:27 AM
turn your idle up as recommended by others. noise will subside .

nothing to worry about , they all do it at low rpm.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: jvb_ca on March 08, 2013, 12:58:16 PM
Its the skulls that are making that noise....  :shout: get them the hell off of there.....she ain't no Hardley.....(sounds like it the way its idling though)....
Oh and turn up your idle like everyone else says...

HTH's...Cheers..Jake
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: aviationfred on March 08, 2013, 02:02:55 PM
Quote from: jvb_ca on March 08, 2013, 12:58:16 PM
Its the skulls that are making that noise....  :shout: get them the hell off of there.....she ain't no Hardley.....(sounds like it the way its idling though)....
Oh and turn up your idle like everyone else says...

HTH's...Cheers..Jake

I agree....... get rid of the skulls, mine had a few small skull stickers. They were removed in very short order.

Yes, bring the idle up. I also noticed, IMO the tinny noise seemed louder at the right side, front of the engine. I am in agreement with Randy. Good possibility of having the early 2 layer headers. I can't think of anything else that would make noise that pronounced at the front of the engine.

Fred
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:37:38 PM
Get rid of the skulls?

But they are the equivilent of "go faster stripes" on a car.  I have touring stickers on my panniers, and I swear they add an extra 0.5mph to the ride.

Skull stickers are cheaper than FJ1200 alarm systems.  Looking at the bike, you automatically think "this ain't no pyjama wearing purist!" - so don't even think about nicking it cos the owner may be a 6ft 12" grizzly dude with knuckles dragging on the ground.

I like them! Leave em on!

Oh - and as for pyjama wearing FJ riders?  ADD ME TO THE RANKS.

I bought me a set of matching red n white Kangaroo leathers.  Jacket, trousers AND red n' white race boots.

Why I don't know, cos I don't do performance! 

If I could get this bloody picture thing sorted, I'd post a pic of them.  But, instead, you'll all have to go to my flickr page.  Theres new pics of the bike in minus temperatures and full K2 Kit!

One more attempt....
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8471792332/in/photostream)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8470947952/in/photostream/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855251/in/photostream/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855897/in/photostream/)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
 :ireful: :mad: :dash2: :negative: :bomb: :ireful:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:46:55 PM
For the love of god, can we have an easier way to insert pictures.  This has gone on since as long as I can remember.  Some folk can do it, whilst there are more out there that can't - and I'm one of them.

Yes, it's been explained time and time again.  But we still can't grasp it.

I try and try (I'm not completely thick.  3/4 yes, but not totally)

I tried again with the "my gallery" thing.  And nothing.  It really is frustrating to the point of getting a nose-bleed over it!

Can we just have what the majority of websites have?  That is: an attatchment button at the bottom, with a "browse system" for the pictures from our computer.  Include a Max file size, and we can shrink to fit before posting.  That is a hell-of-a-lot easier....and quicker.

And then, if moderators don't agree with the content, they can remove it.  Obviously NO tits, bums or anything rude.

Ta muchly.  And on behalf of all the other techo thickets out there.

Me.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:54:34 PM
(http://[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855897/%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8469855897_be22d758a3_z.jpg)[/url]
(http://[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8470948804/%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8470948804_5a894bb730_z.jpg)[/url]
FJ1200 1TX - out for a constructive ride in minus 3 degrees C (26.6F) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8470948804/#) by Anti-Dive Dave (http://www.flickr.com/people/90663938@N06/), on Flickr[/img]

FJ1200 1TX in minus 3 degrees C. (26.6F) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855897/#) by Anti-Dive Dave (http://www.flickr.com/people/90663938@N06/), on Flickr[/img]

(http://[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855251/%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8469855251_fd17899fbd_z.jpg)[/url]
FJ1200 1TX - out for a ride in below freezing temps. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8469855251/#) by Anti-Dive Dave (http://www.flickr.com/people/90663938@N06/), on Flickr[/img]

(http://[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8470947952/%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8505/8470947952_4b0b677b6b_z.jpg)[/url]
This girl gets ridden in all weathers........ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8470947952/#) by Anti-Dive Dave (http://www.flickr.com/people/90663938@N06/), on Flickr[/img]

(http://[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8471792332/%5D%5Bimg%5Dhttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8471792332_41630d2503_z.jpg)[/url]
My new race leathers (http://www.flickr.com/photos/90663938@N06/8471792332/#) by Anti-Dive Dave (http://www.flickr.com/people/90663938@N06/), on Flickr[/img]
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
ok - I used the insert image thing (y'know. (http://))

And inbetween it, I first used the "grab link" and pasted it between the img bits.

THEn, I did the same with the img thing, and this time usewd the flickrs "grab BBcode", and copied and pasted THAT between the img.

Got text this time, still no instant image.

I give up, admit defeat, and curse this bloody technology.................. :sorry:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: racerman_27410 on March 08, 2013, 04:03:39 PM
it looks to me as if you have disabled sharing on your pictures...... once you enable that then you just use the drop down box that says other ways of sharing and there is a link displayed that you just copy and paste directly to your post here. no need to add anything just the link straight from flickr to your post... photobucket works the exact same way.

KOokaloo! 
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
Hello Mr Racerman - the sharing option is there with the box at the top.  I click and it drops down to say "share with...facebook/twitter/email etc"

Below that is "grab link", and thats what I did for the 1st post.  Nothin happened.
And below that is share with....grab HTML/BB code..  "just copy and paste this" and job done/  Erm...not so.

Into Flickr account settings.  Who can see?  anyone - everything is opened up, nothing hidden (apart from my email address and real name, which is Sandra if you must know).  Share pics?  yes.  As said.  Bah humbug and in the huff now.

Sorry - this thread is way off topic now caused by me.

If i test some more, I shall do it in general discussion and mark it as TEST PIC

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 08, 2013, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 05:38:09 PM
Hello Mr Racerman - the sharing option is there with the box at the top.  I click and it drops down to say "share with...facebook/twitter/email etc"

Below that is "grab link", and thats what I did for the 1st post.  Nothin happened.
And below that is share with....grab HTML/BB code..  "just copy and paste this" and job done/  Erm...not so.

Into Flickr account settings.  Who can see?  anyone - everything is opened up, nothing hidden (apart from my email address and real name, which is Sandra if you must know).  Share pics?  yes.  As said.  Bah humbug and in the huff now.

Sorry - this thread is way off topic now caused by me.

If i test some more, I shall do it in general discussion and mark it as TEST PIC



I tried in bursts for 2 years without success to post photos, would get the shits and give up for a while then revisit it and the get the ............... and so on. I spent whole nights on it, re reading the instructions until I was blue in the face and even bluer in language.

It was only made worse by everyone saying it was a no brainer.

I finally stumbled across the sequence almost by accident. There was one vital step that no one seemed to have mentioned.

I will just check the sequence to make sure I miss nothing and post it for you.

I just tried the share box a minute ago "just grab the link blah, blah, blah" it doesn't work for me either. (Flickr)

Noel
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 08, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: Anti-Dive Dave on March 08, 2013, 03:37:38 PM

If I could get this bloody picture thing sorted...


Dave,
You worry too much, you make yourself sad.
You can't change fate, so don't feel so bad.
Enjoy it while you can, it's just like the weather.
Quit complaining brother, no one lives forever!

Let's have a party, there's a full moon in the sky.
It's the hour of the wolf, and I don't want to die.

I'm so happy dancing while the grim reaper
Cuts, cuts, cuts
But he can't get me.
(I'm as) clever as can be, and I'm very quick, but don't forget
We've only got so many tricks.
No one lives forever!!!

Oingo Boingo - No One Lives Forever (W/Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZCKP-H4C8#ws)

Cheers!  :drinks:

Steve



Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
Here, I'll help ya, nice bike btw!

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj100_zpsc7fcbf7a.jpg)

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj200_zpscb1eac1f.jpg)

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj400_zpsfcb96e0b.jpg)

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj300_zpscdc16ee2.jpg)

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: big r on March 08, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Oh no, another power ranger and a Brit at that. :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 08, 2013, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)


Bloody hell, how big is you dog?
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 08, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM


(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj400_zpsfcb96e0b.jpg)


Have you considered people smuggling for some extra cash?
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 08, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)


Just *WHO* is that?

The Black-White-Red-All-Over Bobbsey Twin Power Ranger???

Awwww.... So CUTE!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Bobbsey_Twins_-_Gutenberg.jpg/220px-Bobbsey_Twins_-_Gutenberg.jpg)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 08, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)

Reminds me of a Harlem Shake opening sequence... :)

Dan
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 05:25:44 AM

AAAAAARGH.  :dash2:

I shall say what I got in a PM.....it's frustrating not being able to "get" this techno stuff and post pics....

Then...some bugger comes along....no....wait....MANY buggers come along....and post them for me!  And not say how they did it.  SHEESH!!!

But, I shall follow my PMs advice, and give that a go.  Thanks. Mr. Anonymous. No names mentioned.  Down under.  Makes a noise like a frog.  Aww shit...too much info.  He's been revealed.

Bugga.

People smuggling?  If I could get BIGGER boxes fitted, then yes! - I'd consider funerals too (midgets only) and renting the side cases out as one bedroom apartments to all the bloody immigrants that come over here.  :mad: But, unfortunately, Krauser didn't make em any bigger than that (42 litre). 

And me dog?  How big?  it's just a tea-cup chihuahua.  Don't let the feeding dishes fool you.  They're MINE. 
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 08, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)

Reminds me of a Harlem Shake opening sequence... :)

Dan

Hmmm - yes...it does...but my bones won't let me move like that no more....

DO THE HARLEM SHAKE (ORIGINAL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJiSSAMNWw#ws)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: FJmonkey on March 09, 2013, 08:02:17 AM
Try this, I took some screen shots of how I post pictures from Flicker.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=8587.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=8587.0)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: hook line n sinker on March 09, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 07, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on March 07, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Plus, do not forget about the header pipe breaking internally, just as Pat...

Nope, not that....he has a '87


YES LOL it has the gay skulls have gone now !
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: hook line n sinker on March 09, 2013, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: jvb_ca on March 08, 2013, 12:58:16 PM
Its the skulls that are making that noise....  :shout: get them the hell off of there.....she ain't no Hardley.....(sounds like it the way its idling though)....
Oh and turn up your idle like everyone else says...

HTH's...Cheers..Jake

Gay skulls removed lol WTF  I do like this bike though first FJ1200 :)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Dads_FJ on March 09, 2013, 11:51:13 AM
:Then...some bugger comes along....no....wait....MANY buggers come along....and post them for me!  And not say how they did it.  SHEESH!!!:

Okay my bad.  However in my defense I only wanted to get your bike up so others could appreciate it.  I knew you'd figure it out with the help of others and since I use photobucket I figured I wasn't going to be any help in loading pictures.  My method for getting your photos up was to take a screen shot and save the file to photobucket and link them to that.  Not really helpful in your situation.  I apologize if I added to your frustration. 

John
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: FJmonkey on March 09, 2013, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 09, 2013, 11:51:13 AM
:Then...some bugger comes along....no....wait....MANY buggers come along....and post them for me!  And not say how they did it.  SHEESH!!!:

Okay my bad.  However in my defense I only wanted to get your bike up so others could appreciate it.  I knew you'd figure it out with the help of others and since I use photobucket I figured I wasn't going to be any help in loading pictures.  My method for getting your photos up was to take a screen shot and save the file to photobucket and link them to that.  Not really helpful in your situation.  I apologize if I added to your frustration. 

John


Dave can take it, no need to say your sorry... At least I hope he can take it, he is about to get some poo all over his new Ranger suit.... :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 09, 2013, 11:51:13 AM
Okay my bad.
John

Yeah Mr Dad.... - YOU BAD!!  Go on....hold out yer hands.  No...STRAIGHT out.  Now turn them over.  Good lad.

Now...look away....

SLAP!!!  :shok: :biggrin:

There.  All done.

Nah - you didn't add to me frustration at all.  Not a single iota.  Nuffin.  Mainly cos when you suggested Photofucket (sorry...bucket), I was gonna try that as a last resort.  Y'know, cancel Flickr and open new account as suggested.  But then Mr Mar Mar did the show and tell.

"And they all lived happily ever after".  or, as the antipodeans would say...."No worries mate!, she's all good!"
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Dads_FJ on March 09, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
 :drinks:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: jvb_ca on March 09, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 08, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on March 08, 2013, 08:21:14 PM

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/fj500_zpsea20d227.jpg)


Just *WHO* is that?

The Black-White-Red-All-Over Bobbsey Twin Power Ranger???

Awwww.... So CUTE!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Bobbsey_Twins_-_Gutenberg.jpg/220px-Bobbsey_Twins_-_Gutenberg.jpg)

hehehe....Don't let them bug you Dave. (or is that Eddie Lawson Under that suit?) That power ranger's suit could save your hide some day. Good on ya for getting it and make sure ya wear it. DAMHIK.....

Cheers...Jake
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
 :mail1: LOL - Jake.

Yeah, I do wear it on long runs, but feel a bit of a tit going to the shops in it - so, just wear the jacket with black leather lowers instead for the bread n' milk run.  The boots were thrown in as part of the deal, and I really cant see me wearing them much.  I think a black pair of touring boots would be better.

The last thing I need when out on a run is to get stopped again, off the bike, by a mom and her kid asking if the little one can get a photo of her and the "spaceman".  It was funny and embarrasing.  I went away singing Elton Johns "rocketman".

I've retained some of my youth tho (and rebellious attitude), and hang onto my black visor till the feds physically confiscate my lid!  Makes kids stare at you when you drive past, and scares the shit out of car drivers when you pull up alongside, and then look directly at them through the visor.  They lose "eye contact" immedietly.  Some double take, and then look away.  Black visors are highly illegal here in the UK, and I luv it.  (Do have me Arai Quantum F with clear lens in the background)

Anyhoo - the suit is a race suit afterall, and as y'all know by now....I ain't no racer.  Whilst I may dream of being Eddie Lawson, I don't ride like him!  My looney days of peg scraping and sparks from the centre stand are long over!

At least with being Kangaroo hide, if I DO fall off, I should in theory "bounce like Skippy" along the road instead.  (Skippy was the name of a TV series from Australia back in the 1980s - Skippy being the Kangaroo version of "Lassie".)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 03:45:47 PM
who'd  of thunk it,, 2 two monkey ranger powder puff dudes, , all good mate, she'll be right  :biggrin: we'll  just have to learn to duck twice as much,  , extra poo being flung and all, , just hope you ,like the rest of us leather clad freaks never get the chance to test out the gears abrasion resistance,, other than skuffing it up, it dousnt stop the carpet burn, , where can i buy kevlar sleeves from :sorry:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 04:11:20 PM
I'm waiting to see someone on here wearing a set of matching leathers with pink stripe down the sleeve and leg.

I mean - you can order custom made leathers...so surely, someone has to take the plunge and order up a set?  They can't look that bad, can they?

I think if I DO come off the bike wearing the Kangaroo hide, it won't protect me as much as the buffalo hide black stuff I normally wear.

Kangaroo is tougher on abrasion than normal hide, which is fine for sliding down a smooth track, with no traffic coming atcha at high speed, and no telegraph poles or trees to slam into.  Just grass and piled up rubber tyres (ok, theres more too it than that).  Personally, I reckon on the actual highway, with flora and fauna, it'll just disintigrate!

The only advantage I have found so far, is the weight difference.  I don't wanna test them out if I can help it, but If I do, and I live to tell the tale, then after they sew my arse back on, I'll report back.

"Awwwwwww shiiiiiit.....oh look.....sky-grass, sky-grass, sky-grass, TRUCK...sky-grass, VAN....close look at tarmac.....grass....fencepost....barbed wire.......cows......."
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
hmmm monkey ranger seems to be the local trend setter,, maybe we should pass the hat around and have him fitted out in pink stripe leathers  :biggrin:,, your right about the kanga hide, see the gp guys take a decent slide, without there arse hanging out, but not a guide post or pot hole in sight, , oh and if you must mention skippy,  do it quietly,, or the bastards will start showing re,runs again for the next ten years,, aww gee skip,  3 guys with chainsaws are cutting all the gum trees down, how will i call you now  :biggrin:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 09, 2013, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 04:11:20 PM
I'm waiting to see someone on here wearing a set of matching leathers with pink stripe down the sleeve and leg.

I mean - you can order custom made leathers...so surely, someone has to take the plunge and order up a set?  They can't look that bad, can they?

I think if I DO come off the bike wearing the Kangaroo hide, it won't protect me as much as the buffalo hide black stuff I normally wear.

Kangaroo is tougher on abrasion than normal hide, which is fine for sliding down a smooth track, with no traffic coming atcha at high speed, and no telegraph poles or trees to slam into.  Just grass and piled up rubber tyres (ok, theres more too it than that).  Personally, I reckon on the actual highway, with flora and fauna, it'll just disintigrate!

The only advantage I have found so far, is the weight difference.  I don't wanna test them out if I can help it, but If I do, and I live to tell the tale, then after they sew my arse back on, I'll report back.

"Awwwwwww shiiiiiit.....oh look.....sky-grass, sky-grass, sky-grass, TRUCK...sky-grass, VAN....close look at tarmac.....grass....fencepost....barbed wire.......cows......."


Dave, if they were made of inch thick elephant hide they still wouldn't do much for you hitting a tree, oncoming vehicle or telegraph pole.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 05:09:31 PM


Quote from: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 04:25:35 PM

...maybe we should pass the hat around and have him fitted out in pink stripe leathers


Well, if we do, then we have to spring for the proper 1991 model bike for him, too, right?


Quote from: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 04:25:35 PM

...and if you must mention skippy,  do it quietly,, or the bastards will start showing re,runs again for the next ten years.


Yeah, that looks sickeningly sweet.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Skippy-dvd.jpg/200px-Skippy-dvd.jpg)

"What's that, Skippy? Sonny's in TROUBLE??? Which way, Skippy? Which way?"

GAAAACKKKKK   :bad: :bad: :bad:

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 05:21:34 PM

By the way, Skippy, the former joey-actor was recently spotted outside a local pub near Wollongong, NSW:

(http://clightnirish.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/skippy.jpg?w=450)

Not lookin' too good, there, Skip! Reminiscent of Corey Haim's career, perhaps?

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 09, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
oh and if you must mention skippy,  do it quietly,, or the bastards will start showing re,runs again for the next ten years,, aww gee skip, 

Too late, stay up late enough and you'll find it's on TV at the moment.
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
Quoteif they were made of inch thick elephant hide they still wouldn't do much for you hitting a tree, oncoming vehicle or telegraph pole.

Oh I dunno about that.  I mean, have you seen an angry elephant charging at a safari vehicle?  Or slamming through the African bush, knocking trees down left right and centre?  

I've never seen an elephant in the emergency room getting HIS arse sewn back on after going head to head with a land-rover...and you never see one dead at the side of the road either. Kangaroos on the other hand......

Hmmm..ok, I haven't seen an elephant actually ride a bike into oncoming traffic.  But if I did, then I bet his ass would be scuff free.

Can you imagine making leathers outa these hides?  It would be bike rider: 1.......Car: written off.

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: ribbert on March 09, 2013, 05:29:27 PM
Yep Steve, I confirm that sighting. Such a waste of a great talent.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8323/8412157117_20fcac3c3e.jpg)
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 05:34:05 PM
cant we just paint the one he has, water colours are cheap :biggrin:  ,,, haha can stay up late here, and still not see skippy, no tv reception :good2:,, i dont miss it, never watched much any way,,but others are having withdrawels  :biggrin:  so looks like money will be spent  :nea:,,, near wollongong you say,, sure its not wayne gardner ,,,, no elephants down here, the tigers killed them, and the devils cleaned up leftovers
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: rktmanfj on March 09, 2013, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 05:21:34 PM

By the way, Skippy, the former joey-actor was recently spotted outside a local pub near Wollongong, NSW:

(http://clightnirish.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/skippy.jpg?w=450)

Not lookin' too good, there, Skip! Reminiscent of Corey Haim's career, perhaps?



What NSW pub is it serving Clydesdale piss?     :scratch_one-s_head:


Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: movenon on March 09, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
Quote from: not a lib on March 09, 2013, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 05:21:34 PM

By the way, Skippy, the former joey-actor was recently spotted outside a local pub near Wollongong, NSW:

(http://clightnirish.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/skippy.jpg?w=450)

Not lookin' too good, there, Skip! Reminiscent of Corey Haim's career, perhaps?



What NSW pub is it serving Clydesdale piss?     :scratch_one-s_head:




Yea , all water no alcohol...... Poor skippy...
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
Quote from: not a lib on March 09, 2013, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 05:21:34 PM

By the way, Skippy, the former joey-actor was recently spotted outside a local pub near Wollongong, NSW:

(http://clightnirish.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/skippy.jpg?w=450)

Not lookin' too good, there, Skip! Reminiscent of Corey Haim's career, perhaps?



What NSW pub is it serving Clydesdale piss?     :scratch_one-s_head:


Are you KIDDING!!??!! That's the finest ale we have to export!

Nuthin' but the *BEST* for our friends down under!

(Remember... you guys are responsible for sending FOSTER'S to us!!!)

:drinks:

Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
ok,ok, we'll say sorry for Fosters if you guys take back Mc donalds  :biggrin:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 09, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 07:34:16 PM

ok,ok, we'll say sorry for Fosters if you guys take back Mc donalds  :biggrin:


If we did, what would we do with all the extra chicken feet, beaks and assholes???

Oh yeah, there's always HOT DOGS!!!

:bad:


Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: fj11.5 on March 09, 2013, 08:03:09 PM
assholes in hot dogs,, wouldnt get much of a hot dog out of tom cruise :lol:
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: aviationfred on March 09, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Quote from: Anti-Dive Dave on March 09, 2013, 05:25:44 AM
 

And me dog?  How big?  it's just a tea-cup chihuahua.  Don't let the feeding dishes fool you.  They're MINE. 

Here is a way for you to take your dog along with you without have to use a sidehack.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BAGSTER-BAGLUX-FRIENDY-FRIENDLY-MOTORCYCLE-TANK-BAG-DOG-CARRIER-/200904138341?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec6d1de65 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BAGSTER-BAGLUX-FRIENDY-FRIENDLY-MOTORCYCLE-TANK-BAG-DOG-CARRIER-/200904138341?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2ec6d1de65)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1200-Baglux-tank-bag-harness-colour-matched-/121075626517?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c30ab7215 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1200-Baglux-tank-bag-harness-colour-matched-/121075626517?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1c30ab7215)

Fred
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: NJona86FJ on March 12, 2013, 05:53:04 PM
 (popcorn) you people are wierd.nice leathers and nice bike. i did the same thing here bought VERY 1980's leathers, ered and gunmetal and black, red and black helmet, matches the red and white and black screen was all colour coded and safe. Now i just wear t shirt and jeans and boots, helmet of course.... ahhhh apathy.... whats the point of being a temporary australian if i cant excersize the right? chuckles
Title: Re: is this the cam chain or starter chain
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on March 12, 2013, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: NJona86FJ on March 12, 2013, 05:53:04 PM

(popcorn) you people are weird...


Whadda ya mean "YOU PEOPLE"?!?!?  :rofl:

Oh, you have *NO IDEA*!!!   :biggrin:

Steve