I am way past due to get my carbs in to Kookaloo condition. Currently I am using borrowed carbs from a FP bike and cannot get much more than 100 miles before the carbs are starved for fuel at freeway speeds. Hang on to your lug nuts, its Time for an overhaul....
So I set up a table to rebuild my carbs: There is beer, it was in my hand during the photo moment, I don't want to jinx the rebuild...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8521/8504186805_b2ee175230_b.jpg)
I took #1 carb apart to see what condition my condition was in.....
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8249/8504186515_4e5d6db20a_b.jpg)
Not bad, looks clean, keeping the bike running at least every two weeks and fuel additives seems to help keep them clean. I am in touch with Randy to keep me on track, I am building my list to complete the rebuild... More to come.
Nice work! I will se how yours turns out before i do mine :good:
Oh and the beer is almost as important as the carbs.
Cheers
Quote from: keand3 on February 24, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Nice work! I will se how yours turns out before i do mine :good:
Oh and the beer is almost as important as the carbs.
Cheers
Happy to be your guinea pig..
Well someone has to be :good:
Quote from: keand3 on February 24, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
Well someone has to be :good:
No worries, I love this stuff....
You are way to organized :rofl: Keep us posted. :good2:
George
What is that impact driver for?
You don't have the allen head screw mod yet? :sarcastic:
All the cool kids are doing it !!!!
(I'm not one of them)
Quote from: movenon on February 24, 2013, 06:13:43 PM
You are way to organized :rofl: Keep us posted. :good2:
George
he is just plain showing off with the blue masking tape :biggrin:
Quote from: Firehawk068 on February 24, 2013, 11:37:08 PM
What is that impact driver for?
You don't have the allen head screw mod yet? :sarcastic:
All the cool kids are doing it !!!!
(I'm not one of them)
You noticed it eh? I was hoping to prevent this:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8506689742_0ed240f2a1_b.jpg)
The PO already had it buggered up and beyond hope. The rest of the fasteners came out without slotting them. I already have the SST hex socket kit when the time comes to reassemble.
wouldnt of even bothered slotting it, they come undone easily with a small set of vice grips, or do you yankee,s call them locking pliers :biggrin:
Quote from: fj11.5 on February 25, 2013, 06:07:09 AM
wouldnt of even bothered slotting it, they come undone easily with a small set of vice grips, or do you yankee,s call them locking pliers :biggrin:
Only large Vice-Grips in my tool box..... :blum1:
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 25, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
Only large Vice-Grips in my tool box..... :blum1:
Well, this is one area where bigger isn't always better. The small vice grips and especially the long nose small vice grips are extremely useful for lots of jobs that their bigger brothers can't get near. Buy and try a pair, you won't be unhappy.
Arnie
Quote from: Arnie on February 25, 2013, 07:17:51 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 25, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
Only large Vice-Grips in my tool box..... :blum1:
Well, this is one area where bigger isn't always better. The small vice grips and especially the long nose small vice grips are extremely useful for lots of jobs that their bigger brothers can't get near. Buy and try a pair, you won't be unhappy.
Arnie
Just saying that I might do that, would that mean I have to put a Pink stripe on my FJ? :blush:
you cant be delicate with large vice grips on screws made from vintage cheese, so a pink stripe wont help
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 24, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
Hang on to your lug nuts, its Time for an overhaul....
So I set up a table to rebuild my carbs: There is beer, it was in my hand during the photo moment, I don't want to jinx the rebuild...
I took #1 carb apart to see what condition my condition was in.....
... More to come.
Looking well prepared...... (I`m assuming you don`t have a cat anymore) :rofl2:
I rebuilt mine recently.The allen head screw mod is definitely worth it :yes:.I was tired of the sad looking tops so went with a splash of colour.Almost went the whole hog and nearly bought a can of plasti dip for the fuel hose guide....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/medium_1645_24_02_13_8_26_18_0.jpeg)
Keep up the good work.
Cheers :drinks:
Jeff P
Quote from: The General on February 25, 2013, 08:49:24 AM
Looking well prepared...... (I`m assuming you don`t have a cat anymore) :rofl2:
Of all the common mistakes that is one I have done yet. When I have the cover off the keys are in the house. I did dump a boat load of oil out of my old Chevy once. I did not notice that the rubber gasket did not come off with the old filter. Luckily my wife was there when I started it and she said "Why is all that oil coming out"?
Quote from: flips on February 25, 2013, 09:54:21 AM
I rebuilt mine recently.The allen head screw mod is definitely worth it :yes:.I was tired of the sad looking tops so went with a splash of colour.Almost went the whole hog and nearly bought a can of plasti dip for the fuel hose guide....
Keep up the good work.
Cheers :drinks:
Jeff P
Is that....are you sure those carb tops aren`t...Pink? Hey X-Ray, I got Blue Plasti dip ...Quick while ya tanks are off. I think I`ll park mine round tha back of the Bellingen lodge! :flag_of_truce:
Seeing all of your carbs here and in others posts makes me get embarrassed over mine...
They do need a make over..
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/4/2912_25_02_13_11_54_19.jpeg)
They all end up looking like that . I just find they work better for longer with a bit of work . especially the springs and other moving parts . Get a tooth brush and some gas on them and they will come up lovely mate. looking at them I`m pretty sure you will have a bit of a sticky choke rail.
Yup, for now that will have to do :nyam1:
FJMonkey, had any use for that impact driver yet?? :biggrin:
Cheers
Quote from: keand3 on February 25, 2013, 12:09:11 PM
Yup, for now that will have to do :nyam1:
FJMonkey, had any use for that impact driver yet?? :biggrin:
Cheers
Yep, that is how I got the rest of them damn cheep ass screws out without slotting them. Up next, my custom jet removal tool. Not much to look at really but stay tuned...
WTF is an ALLEN HEAD screw???? it's an INHEX socket headed capscrew. not a cheese,button,countersunk screw those ones are definately socket headed.
rant over :dance2: :dance2:
Quote from: Arnie on February 25, 2013, 07:17:51 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 25, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
Only large Vice-Grips in my tool box..... :blum1:
Well, this is one area where bigger isn't always better. The small vice grips and especially the long nose small vice grips are extremely useful for lots of jobs that their bigger brothers can't get near. Buy and try a pair, you won't be unhappy.
Arnie
+1. I use my "needle nose" vice grips frequently.
Dan
Quote from: Dan Filetti on February 25, 2013, 10:56:27 PM
Quote from: Arnie on February 25, 2013, 07:17:51 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on February 25, 2013, 07:04:21 AM
Only large Vice-Grips in my tool box..... :blum1:
Well, this is one area where bigger isn't always better. The small vice grips and especially the long nose small vice grips are extremely useful for lots of jobs that their bigger brothers can't get near. Buy and try a pair, you won't be unhappy.
Arnie
+1. I use my "needle nose" vice grips frequently.
Dan
Over the years, I've used my needle-nosed Vise Grips at least twice as much as the regular ones.
Quote from: The General on February 25, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
Is that....are you sure those carb tops aren`t...Pink? Hey X-Ray, I got Blue Plasti dip ...Quick while ya tanks are off. I think I`ll park mine round tha back of the Bellingen lodge! :flag_of_truce:
Gees looking at the work Jeff has been doing to his bike General, I'll be right around the back of the lodge helping you hold the white flag!! That looks unreal Jeff, nice work :drinks:
I didn't know you can get get Plasti Dip in Australia?? Been looking everywhere for it.
:shok: :shok: Actually, I've just looked at your gallery Jeff, man you have transformed that FJ since I last saw it. It looks fantastic, !!!!! :drinks:
The saga continues, I took the last three carbs apart just to be safe. Murphy was fucking right!!! The last three carbs had holes in the slide diaphragms buggering the entire low cost effort I was hoping for... Frank was my hero cuz he sold me his carbs (currently on loan to me) to upgrade to GF. And Randy is my hero for pointing out that I don't have to purchase all the stuff I thought I needed. Thank you both...
Now to some humbling confessions. I took my tank off today to get the carbs off to solve my FP vs GF carb isues (100 miles etc..). I broke a cardinal rule and paid the price. When I swapped out my old carbs I had to convert it from a 2 port 10mm to a single port 6mm. I failed to pay attention to proper hose routing.
I need to fire my damn mechanic, I found this when I took my tank off today...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8522107631_56b9a027a0_b.jpg)
Sometimes I hate my mechanic, the shit I have to deal with....
If the dimwit just followed the proper fuel line routing then the kink would have been avoided.... Like this...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8523223312_c19fe16c70_b.jpg)
So my carb rebuild has taken a turn and I am swapping some parts over with a SST fastener kit and some RPM parts to convert to GF and I will be ready for the WCR....
FYI, the dimwit is me, I don't let anyone work on my FJ unless I watch.....
Yeah, I was a bit paranoid putting my tank back on yesterday, got the hose routing right but had to take the tank off again because I didn't place the clip on the hose where it connects to the fuel petcock. Glad I remembered, :ireful:
Good job monkey,glad to see someone does stupid stuff as much as i do. Think it's the auldtimers setting in.
I still have a standard air box in mine,does it make things a lot easier for carb removal with the pod filters?
Sean.
Quote from: Woodsman on March 04, 2013, 03:03:42 AM
Good job monkey,glad to see someone does stupid stuff as much as i do. Think it's the auldtimers setting in.
I still have a standard air box in mine,does it make things a lot easier for carb removal with the pod filters?
Sean.
The pods make the carb work very easy, plus there is extra room for goodies under the seat now. The pods also allow the wonderful sound of the FJ taking in air when cracking the throttle open. It is like she is encouraging me to keep it in the Kookaloo zone. The Suppertrap pipes help with that as well.
Now that I have discovered my line routing error I will be taking a few more test rides before I swap out the carbs to gravity feed. I am thinking I will get more than the 100 miles before I get starvation issues on the FP carbs. I will post my results after I get new shoes on her and a few longer rides in. Hard to believe I could get as far as I could with the line kinked.
Hey Mark, i noticed that you also have the crankfilter.
You woulden't by any chance have a picture showing were its mounted?
Quote from: keand3 on March 04, 2013, 07:22:20 AM
Hey Mark, i noticed that you also have the crankfilter.
You woulden't by any chance have a picture showing were its mounted?
I can post one tonight.
Thanks :good2:
There is so much dirt in that area on my bike i don't see it. Doesn't help with a large flat rubber piece covering it all up either.
I almost forgot, it got dark, tough to take pictures...
The port is under carbs 3 and 4, a vertical fitting. The hose is about 6 inches long.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8226/8529205313_a026aa2ca7_b.jpg)
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
The saga continues, I took the last three carbs apart just to be safe. Murphy was fucking right!!! The last three carbs had holes in the slide diaphragms buggering the entire low cost effort I was hoping for... Frank was my hero cuz he sold me his carbs (currently on loan to me) to upgrade to GF. And Randy is my hero for pointing out that I don't have to purchase all the stuff I thought I needed. Thank you both...
Now to some humbling confessions. I took my tank off today to get the carbs off to solve my FP vs GF carb isues (100 miles etc..). I broke a cardinal rule and paid the price. When I swapped out my old carbs I had to convert it from a 2 port 10mm to a single port 6mm. I failed to pay attention to proper hose routing.
I need to fire my damn mechanic, I found this when I took my tank off today...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8522107631_56b9a027a0_b.jpg)
Sometimes I hate my mechanic, the shit I have to deal with....
If the dimwit just followed the proper fuel line routing then the kink would have been avoided.... Like this...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8523223312_c19fe16c70_b.jpg)
So my carb rebuild has taken a turn and I am swapping some parts over with a SST fastener kit and some RPM parts to convert to GF and I will be ready for the WCR....
FYI, the dimwit is me, I don't let anyone work on my FJ unless I watch.....
Dick Head :lol: :rofl2:
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 04, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
Quote from: baldy3853 on March 04, 2013, 09:05:29 PM
Dick Head :lol: :rofl2:
Yea, that sums it up....
I know thats y I only used two words, less yhe 12 weeks now before Kman and I hit your shores :good2:
Quote from: baldy3853 on March 04, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
I know thats y I only used two words, less yhe 12 weeks now before Kman and I hit your shores :good2:
That's why security has been alerted and extra gloves have been sent to the front lines, nothing means love more than extra KY...If you are lucky... You know they will only let one you in at a time.... Who's gonna bend over first????
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
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Now to some humbling confessions. I took my tank off today to get the carbs off to solve my FP vs GF carb isues (100 miles etc..). I broke a cardinal rule and paid the price. When I swapped out my old carbs I had to convert it from a 2 port 10mm to a single port 6mm. I failed to pay attention to proper hose routing.
I need to fire my damn mechanic, I found this when I took my tank off today...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8379/8522107631_56b9a027a0_b.jpg)
Sometimes I hate my mechanic, the shit I have to deal with....
If the dimwit just followed the proper fuel line routing then the kink would have been avoided.... Like this...
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8523223312_c19fe16c70_b.jpg)
So my carb rebuild has taken a turn and I am swapping some parts over with a SST fastener kit and some RPM parts to convert to GF and I will be ready for the WCR....
FYI, the dimwit is me, I don't let anyone work on my FJ unless I watch.....
Thou shalt do penance unto thyself by smacking thyself with Monkey style Kung Foo.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 04, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: baldy3853 on March 04, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
I know thats y I only used two words, less yhe 12 weeks now before Kman and I hit your shores :good2:
That's why security has been alerted and extra gloves have been sent to the front lines, nothing means love more than extra KY...If you are lucky... You know they will only let one you in at a time.... Who's gonna bend over first????
Klav has more experience at that so I'll allow him to go 1st I can then sneak away lol
Thanks for posting the picture !
Cheers
Ken
Quote from: FeralRdr on March 04, 2013, 11:00:39 PM
Thou shalt do penance unto thyself by smacking thyself with Monkey style Kung Foo.
I might have been the drunken style Kung Foo that got me into this trouble, maybe the Monkey style can help me. Or I could just use a Monkey wrench...
Dunno if you'll run into the same issue, but I had to make the hose for the CC vent longer. I was discovered oil all over the place and it was coming through the vent and filter.
Just a thought..
Quote from: pdxfj on March 05, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
Dunno if you'll run into the same issue, but I had to make the hose for the CC vent longer. I was discovered oil all over the place and it was coming through the vent and filter.
Just a thought..
I have heard that others needed a longer hose, I have about 1K like this with no signs of oil spitting out. Thanks for the heads up though. Nothing like having a few hundred (active) FJ owners watching out for each other.
+1 on Garth's recommendation, the longer hose gives the oil (in the blow by mist) time and surface area to separate and drain back to the crankcase. Gases go out and the oil drains back....Good catch Beano.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 06, 2013, 12:43:13 AM
+1 on Garth's recommendation, the longer hose gives the oil (in the blow by mist) time and surface area to separate and drain back to the crankcase. Gases go out and the oil drains back....Good catch Beano.
While I haven't fixed it yet, I came to the same conclusion, particularly with sustained hight revs.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on March 06, 2013, 03:51:24 AM
While I haven't fixed it yet, I came to the same conclusion, particularly with sustained hight revs.
Noel
Well that might explain it, with my pinched fuel line sustained high revs is currently limited. The new shoes go on the weekend and if the weather holds a long test ride with properly routed fuel line. Guess i will wrap a clean white paper shop towel loosely around the breather filter to see I get any signs of oil. The eye might miss tiny drops but the white will expose them.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 06, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
Quote from: ribbert on March 06, 2013, 03:51:24 AM
While I haven't fixed it yet, I came to the same conclusion, particularly with sustained hight revs.
Noel
Well that might explain it, with my pinched fuel line sustained high revs is currently limited. The new shoes go on the weekend and if the weather holds a long test ride with properly routed fuel line. Guess i will wrap a clean white paper shop towel loosely around the breather filter to see I get any signs of oil. The eye might miss tiny drops but the white will expose them.
Back to your original topic. Why don't the fuel lines have springs around them, given the tight space and heat and many a mention here about similar issues.
Noel
Here is an update, I chose to buy FP carbs from my buddy Frank for the meager sum of a $100 beer. I have been riding with FP carbs on a GF bike with limited success. I get about 100 miles before I get fuel starvation issues. It is like having a 100 mile range tank. I got the bits I needed from RPM to convert the carbs over to FG a few weeks ago but they sat due to a lack of motivation. My ride down to San Diego with 4 other FJowners really gave me motivation. Its like having a small bladder and having to stop every 100 miles because you have too.
I bagged and tagged my old carbs for parts. I rebuilt the FP carbs today to GF. I took my time and managed to do one carb at at time to avoid mixing parts and loosing where I am at any given time. I used the SST fastener kit as well to get rid of the F%$# Philips fasteners. I also fixed some minor issues while I had the bike opened up. Synced the carbs and took her for a short test ride. I already have 100 miles on the tank so all I need to do is some sustained freeway speeds to see if the carbs run low/dry under load. I ran at speed (70+, not telling how fast I really went) on the 210 for over 12 miles then back the same distance with no issues. That was good to get that far at that kind kind speed. I think I am back in the Kookaloo zone for now. So thanks to Randy for the parts and knowledge to make the conversion for my old ambulance. WCR here I come