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Title: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Jeff0308 on January 27, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
I see a few people have put HID conversions on there FJ. Am not certain to the legal aspect here in Victoria, as its not a standard thing, other than new cars have them in. What I want to know is,  what is the best light wattage to put in that wont stress the electrical system. Is it the standard globe or  standard +100 insert regards jeff
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: rktmanfj on January 27, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: Jeff0308 on January 27, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
I see a few people have put HID conversions on there FJ. Am not certain to the legal aspect here in Victoria, as its not a standard thing, other than new cars have them in. What I want to know is,  what is the best light wattage to put in that wont stress the electrical system. Is it the standard globe or  standard +100 insert regards jeff

If you put in a headlight relay, you may find that the improvement with the standard wattage is enough.     :yes:

Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: nurse on January 27, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
I used this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1)
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: aviationfred on January 27, 2013, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: nurse on January 27, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
I used this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1)

Did you stay with the 6000k bulb?

And was there a noticeable difference in how much brighter the light was at night?

Fred
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: FJmonkey on January 27, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on January 27, 2013, 06:13:20 PM
Did you stay with the 6000k bulb?

And was there a noticeable difference in how much brighter the light was at night?

Fred
A 6K bulb will look Blue, a 4.5 or 5K will look more white and brighter to the human eye. Any 6K to 4.5K will give you way more light than any stock H4 with a relay giving full power to the bulb. And an most HID kits will not require a relay.
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Pat Conlon on January 27, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
If you put in a headlight relay, you may find that the improvement with the standard wattage is enough.     :yes:

Yep, I agree. Do the headlight relays first..... You will be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Derek Young on January 27, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: Jeff0308 on January 27, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
I see a few people have put HID conversions on there FJ. Am not certain to the legal aspect here in Victoria, as its not a standard thing, other than new cars have them in. What I want to know is,  what is the best light wattage to put in that wont stress the electrical system. Is it the standard globe or  standard +100 insert regards jeff
I put the DDM 55 watt 6000k HID kit on my 86.  Liked it alot, very bright.

Before that I ran a 55/100 halogen, which was bright on high also.  Be careful with these.  I left it on high beam during the day by accident on a road trip.  It melted a solder connection in the high\low beam switch.  Had to ride about 200 Km in the dark with no high beam :negative:

Derek
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: rktmanfj on January 27, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 27, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
If you put in a headlight relay, you may find that the improvement with the standard wattage is enough.     :yes:

Yep, I agree. Do the headlight relays first..... You will be pleasantly surprised.

And the OP did mention that he was concerned about legality of an HID mod.      :pardon:

Not trying to rain on the HID parade.

Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: SlowOldGuy on January 27, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: Derek Young on January 27, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Before that I ran a 55/100 halogen, which was bright on high also.  Be careful with these.  I left it on high beam during the day by accident on a road trip.  It melted a solder connection in the high\low beam switch.  Had to ride about 200 Km in the dark with no high beam :negative:

Derek

You must not have the relay mod.  In addition to giving more light from the halogen bulbs, it will prevent pulling excess current through the stock wiring should you choose to install a high wattage bulb.

DavidR.
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: FJmonkey on January 27, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
And the OP did mention that he was concerned about legality of an HID mod.      :pardon:

Not trying to rain on the HID parade.

Piss off!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

But to answer the question as the man points out, it seems to pass the UK MOT. Any one in Canuk land with HID passing the annual check???
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Jeff0308 on January 27, 2013, 07:32:02 PM
Yeah, i can't say I know anyone here with HID inserts on a bike. In cars, yes, (NEW) my wifes cars got them  but the law are strict on that here. HIDs in driving lights Ive heard of and I don't know if they are even legal but people still do it .New cars have them but they are ADR(Australian Design Rule ) compliant.  Jeff
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: rktmanfj on January 27, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 27, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
And the OP did mention that he was concerned about legality of an HID mod.      :pardon:

Not trying to rain on the HID parade.

Piss off!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

But to answer the question as the man points out, it seems to pass the UK MOT. Any one in Canuk land with HID passing the annual check???

Well yeah, I'm aware of the success in the UK, but that ain't exactly Aus.

But sure, I can piss off, no problem.

Have fun, kids.



Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: markmartin on January 27, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
I used this one  http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/H4_Kits/h4_kits.html (http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/H4_Kits/h4_kits.html)
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: FJmonkey on January 27, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
Well yeah, I'm aware of the success in the UK, but that ain't exactly Aus.

But sure, I can piss off, no problem.

Have fun, kids.
I did not mean for you to really piss off... Just the FJ banter and shit slinging.... Its what we do for fun, I really do want to help if I can... I am the Red Power Ranger..... A Do good er'....
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Derek Young on January 27, 2013, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on January 27, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: Derek Young on January 27, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Before that I ran a 55/100 halogen, which was bright on high also.  Be careful with these.  I left it on high beam during the day by accident on a road trip.  It melted a solder connection in the high\low beam switch.  Had to ride about 200 Km in the dark with no high beam :negative:

Derek

You must not have the relay mod.  In addition to giving more light from the halogen bulbs, it will prevent pulling excess current through the stock wiring should you choose to install a high wattage bulb.

DavidR.
You're right David, no relay.  Was considering putting in a relay, but the HID kit has one included.

Derek
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Derek Young on January 27, 2013, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 27, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: not a lib on January 27, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
And the OP did mention that he was concerned about legality of an HID mod.      :pardon:

Not trying to rain on the HID parade.

Piss off!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

But to answer the question as the man points out, it seems to pass the UK MOT. Any one in Canuk land with HID passing the annual check???
Quick!  Somebody spank that cheeky little monkey! :blum1:

We don't have annual inspections in British Columbia for passenger vehicles.  Not sure if commercial vehicles require it.

That being said, I don't believe HIDs are legal unless they came stock on your vehicle.  I have heard of many motorcyclists being pulled over and given vehicle inspection tickets for such terrible infractions as a noisy exhaust or no rear fender.  I believe HIDs could land you in this area.  Can be costly as you must pay for the inspection and fix anything that doesn't comply.

Choosing an HID in the 4300 to 5000k range would make it hard to tell the colour from a halogen.  Would be easier to pass an inspection I would think.

Derek
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: nurse on January 28, 2013, 02:58:08 AM
Quote from: aviationfred on January 27, 2013, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: nurse on January 27, 2013, 04:45:24 PM
I used this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FJ1100-FJ1200-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-NEW-/170572956337?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b6f0c2b1)

Did you stay with the 6000k bulb?

And was there a noticeable difference in how much brighter the light was at night?

Fred

I used whatever came in the box! A 6000k probably is blue, but to be fair I wasn't really fussed it matched the colours of the LEDs I run quite well, might try a 5000k next time? Not sure on life span.

In answer to do I notice a difference, compared to the original set up, it's like comparing night and day!

My only worry is that when it comes to bulb replacement time because these kits are under the counter type affairs how easy will it be to find a replacement that hooks up to the loom that came with the kit, as some do look different to others!
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: baldy3853 on January 28, 2013, 04:20:55 AM
I've done this on my FJR and while I don't live in Victoria I have ridden there and haven't had a problem whilst I've been there.
Is maybe one of the easiest and best mods I've done they are fantastic.
Baldy
Title: Re: HEADLIGHT
Post by: Arnie on January 28, 2013, 06:54:18 AM
With most/many of the HID kits, you still retain the stock H4 connector.  It'd take about 30sec (if you have small hands and don't need to see where you're working) to change back to a stock QH globe.  Don't install it till you've got your RWC in hand.

Arnie

Quote from: Jeff0308 on January 27, 2013, 07:32:02 PM
Yeah, i can't say I know anyone here with HID inserts on a bike. In cars, yes, (NEW) my wifes cars got them  but the law are strict on that here. HIDs in driving lights Ive heard of and I don't know if they are even legal but people still do it .New cars have them but they are ADR(Australian Design Rule ) compliant.  Jeff