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Title: Mystery wires
Post by: mich1jon on October 06, 2012, 05:01:28 PM
Attached are pics of a couple "mystery wires" which I've puzzled over for at least 2 years now, in the hopes that someone here can help identify them. Everything on the bike works (everything electrical, that is) so I'm not sure what to make of these.

"Whoso identifyeth the wires of this bike, is rightwise King born of (your state, province, or municipality here)" - or an "Uncle Herschel's Favorite" from Cracker Barrel.
Title: Oh, yeah...the pics!!!
Post by: mich1jon on October 06, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
I hope these are viewable.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/thumb_2751_06_10_12_4_20_11.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/thumb_2751_06_10_12_4_18_39.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: fj11.5 on October 06, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
don't see the pics mate, but sounds interesting
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: fintip on October 06, 2012, 05:15:31 PM
Try uploading the pics to imageshack.us, and then posting the 'forum code' here (or just putting a 'direct link' inside [img ] [/img ] tags, sans spaces).

I'm pretty immersed in the wiring diagram at the moment, I'd love to have a go at it!   :good2:
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: mich1jon on October 06, 2012, 05:42:40 PM
The pics are viewable now.  :good2:
Good luck!
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: SlowOldGuy on October 06, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
That top one is thte infamous "green connector" that is used on the California models to activate a valve between the carb vents and the charcoal cannisters (I think).  This connector makes a good "switched" source for electrical goodies.

I can't blow the second picture up enough to see it.  Kinda looks like the alternator lead (but that should have a red connector housing).  Is it a single wire under the left sidecover?

DavidR.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: fintip on October 06, 2012, 06:38:17 PM
Wow those pics are tiny. Not even going to try, haha.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: fj11.5 on October 06, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
show up ok on my phone  :scratch_one-s_head:
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: Goetz on October 06, 2012, 08:44:54 PM
i have been looking for my green one for a couple of days and cant find it anywhere. maybe wrapped in electrical tape like 1/3rd of the rest of the harness tho.... PO :diablo:
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: mich1jon on October 06, 2012, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 06, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
I can't blow the second picture up enough to see it.  Kinda looks like the alternator lead (but that should have a red connector housing).  Is it a single wire under the left sidecover?

DavidR.

The second wire(s) consist of one yellow and one brown into a white connector, located behind the right side cover.
Thanks for the info on the other one. It will come in handy.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: andyb on October 06, 2012, 11:08:10 PM
Isn't that the "spare" connector of randomness?  Brown wire sounds familiar there.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: fintip on October 07, 2012, 02:58:46 AM
I direct you to this page:
http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6427/8687wiringdiagrambigcol.png (http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6427/8687wiringdiagrambigcol.png)

And then to the wiring routing diagrams in the 'service manual' that's actually a supplement (given in odd/even pages) in the 'files' section, which give visual clues as to what is (should) be located where.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: Alf on October 07, 2012, 04:50:25 AM
Hola and welcome to the community!

Really nice bike and good purchase! Congratulations!

There are some tricks that avoid/decrease oil consumption
1.- Use 20/50 or 10/40 (cheap) mineral oil API SG to avoid clutch slippage. And the thicker oil is more appropriate for the air cooled tolerances
2.- If synt oil is used the valve guides o-rings get cooked & rock hard in consequence and the bike spend oil
3.- Don´t use the owners manual procedure to check the oil level. Do it when cold. With the owners manual procedure you overfill the crankcase and the excess oil go to the airbox and then to the engine

I´ve not read that the valve guides were changed. If the oil consumption is there, as it seems, and you only change the o-rings or valves, the oil consumption will continue. Before to make any re-bore I would change the valve guides and  fit Randy valve guides o rings http://www.rpmracingca.com/ (http://www.rpmracingca.com/)

Be careful: the Randy shop is addictive!

For more tricks too I have a couple of things in my web

Regards

Alf
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: ELIMINATOR on October 09, 2012, 12:05:02 PM
Where does this green connector to be found?
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: Goetz on October 10, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
I did find my green connector, it was hooked up to another green one, which makes my bike a California model i suppose.
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: FJmonkey on October 10, 2012, 10:34:44 PM
Quote from: Goetz on October 10, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
I did find my green connector, it was hooked up to another green one, which makes my bike a California model i suppose.
My CA bike has this green connector, but it is not connected....
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: mich1jon on October 11, 2012, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on October 10, 2012, 10:34:44 PM
Quote from: Goetz on October 10, 2012, 10:27:15 PM
I did find my green connector, it was hooked up to another green one, which makes my bike a California model i suppose.
My CA bike has this green connector, but it is not connected....

Yeah, according to the schematic which Fintip posted the link to, the wires from the green connector supply a solenoid found on the Ca model. Strange thing is, my wires look like they were cut.
I'm starting to wonder if my baby's a Ca. model. If so, I've been living a lie all these years!
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: racerman_27410 on October 11, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
isnt the connector for the fuel gauge also green?



Kookaloo!


Frank
Title: Re: Mystery wires
Post by: mich1jon on October 11, 2012, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: racerman_27410 on October 11, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
isnt the connector for the fuel gauge also green?

Hmmmmm,..... that would explain something. I've not had a working fuel gauge for some time now. I'll have to take a look in that direction.
Thanks.