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Title: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Tapartacus on September 13, 2012, 02:57:45 AM
Hi everyone, strange question. When I pulled off the left side crankcase cover to inspect my chains smaller sprocket I had to also pull off the clutch piston housing. Of course under the clutch piston housing is a push rod. Well there was a lot of oil and dirt in there that I wanted to clean so as I gently wiped around the rod(FJMonkey insert joke here) I somehow pulled it out a bit and thought I heard a click and thought uh oh did something fall out of place? Well I put everything back together and the clutch works fine so I'm thinking all is good. For sh%ts and giggles I looked up the microfiche(part 26) and sure enough at the end of that push rod is a ball bearing! Could that have fallen out somehow? I'm only slightly concerned considering the clutch works fine. Any thoughts


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Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Tapartacus on September 13, 2012, 03:39:34 AM
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Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: andyb on September 13, 2012, 05:48:50 AM
If the ball fell out, you'd not be able to disengage the clutch.  If it's working, you're fine.
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: FJmonkey on September 13, 2012, 08:42:05 AM
It is safe to pull the rod completely out and really get after it with full stroke wiping. The ball bearring will stay in if your bike is on the center stand. Most people get the ball out by starting the engine with the clutch slave off. If the rod is also still in place then it will come out as well. Since the oil behind it will be under pressure, the rod may spear the cat just before it embeds itself in the wall. The bearing may not come out, some have reported that they only lost the cat, but not the bearing. It would also be a great time to change your oil as half of it will have shot out and ended up on the ground.  :sarcastic:
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: SlowOldGuy on September 13, 2012, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 13, 2012, 08:42:05 AM
It is safe to pull the rod completely out and really get after it with full stroke wiping. The ball bearring will stay in if your bike is on the center stand. Most people get the ball out by starting the engine with the clutch slave off. If the rod is also still in place then it will come out as well. Since the oil behind it will be under pressure, the rod may spear the cat just before it embeds itself in the wall. The bearing may not come out, some have reported that they only lost the cat, but not the bearing. It would also be a great time to change your oil as half of it will have shot out and ended up on the ground.

Okay,
This question about losing the clutch ball bearing has come up MANY times.  I have NEVER read a response where the ball bearing has fallen out, or been shot out with the pushrod, or even fallen out period. 

If anyone has ever had this happen then PLEASE speak up.  Otherwise, let's stop perpetuating this myth about the ball falling out.  AFAIK it's never happened.

DavidR.
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Dan Filetti on September 13, 2012, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 13, 2012, 08:42:05 AM
It is safe to pull the rod completely out and really get after it with full stroke wiping.

Too easy, you are just pandering for attention....  Are you taking over Klavdy's responsibilities?
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Dan Filetti on September 13, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on September 13, 2012, 11:30:46 AM
This question about losing the clutch ball bearing has come up MANY times.  I have NEVER read a response where the ball bearing has fallen out, or been shot out with the pushrod, or even fallen out period.  

If anyone has ever had this happen then PLEASE speak up.  Otherwise, let's stop perpetuating this myth about the ball falling out.  AFAIK it's never happened.

As the 'myth' goes, it only flies out at, apparently high velocity, only if one decides to start their bike with the clutch slave off the bike.  The rod is supposed to come flying out at frightening-skewer-itself-through-your-left-leg-speeds and the ball bearing gains so much velocity it is actually transported to another-never-to-be-found-again-inter-dimensional-place.

Of course it's true David-the-naysayer-heretic!  Everyone know this.  Just like the the world being flat, and the fact that you can kill monarchs with tomatoes -which are truth, until no one sails off the edge, and the king lives...    
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: ELIMINATOR on September 14, 2012, 05:06:41 PM
I started mine a while ago without the clutch slave cylinder fitted :crazy:

Oil poured everywhere, I panicked thinking that the ball had dropped out. Pushrod came out maybe 5". Fitted it back together, clutch works fine.
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Dan Filetti on September 14, 2012, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: ELIMINATOR on September 14, 2012, 05:06:41 PM
I started mine a while ago without the clutch slave cylinder fitted

Pushrod came out maybe 5".

It embedded itself 5" into your left leg? Wow...

:)
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 15, 2012, 11:46:43 AM
I do know that my cat will not go into my garage anymore.....
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: yamaha fj rider on September 15, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
Thanks for the thread and responses. I need to do this ASAP also. Found my clutch slave cylinder was leaking last weekend putting the new dog bones on.

Kurt
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: Ham on September 20, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
     I had same concerns so, I fitted a ball bearing and the clutch slips ,so therefore it must be a misprint on parts sheet.
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: FJmonkey on September 20, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Ham on September 20, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
     I had same concerns so, I fitted a ball bearing and the clutch slips ,so therefore it must be a misprint on parts sheet.
What????
Title: Re: Clutch ball bearing
Post by: RichBaker on September 23, 2012, 05:28:36 AM
Quote from: Ham on September 20, 2012, 08:49:47 PM
     I had same concerns so, I fitted a ball bearing and the clutch slips ,so therefore it must be a misprint on parts sheet.

Was the the original one missing?? If not, with 2 in there, the clutch WILL slip, if it engages at all.....