Just started riding road again after a few years off. [riding 84 1100 ] In the 70's everyone on a bike waived because of what i call the "brotherhood of riding". Except for the Harley guys in the 70's, they only waived at Harley guys. Then In the 80's and 90's riding had changed so that when riding only the sportbike guys waived at sportbike guys and cruiser bike guys waived at cruiser bike guys etc. And the Harley guys, well. Now I am out riding and I am blown away, everyone is waiving at me. I almost fell off my bike when 2 Harley guys waived. Has someone been talking to the Harley guys?
maybe the were just Harley guys and not club associated, not often they wave :yahoo:
are you sure they were riding harleys? there are plenty of Japanese clones and victory clones and and and.......
true harley riders cant wave cause their hands are full carrying all the parts that fell off during their ride :good2:
KOokaloo!
:lol: and busy holding them up due to the oil spraying over tyres, grips , tassles ect
I waive at most everyone on a bike, Hardley or not. Just a quick left hand drop off the bar -assuming it's safe to do. Most non-hardley people waive back, and roughly 20% of all Hardley riders waive back. I have little doubt the other 80% feel smug about 'getting me' but I figure it's their issue. I waive to let folks know I'm pleased to be on two wheels like them. If they don't have the good sense to be courteous, then that's on them.
I will continue to waive.
Dan
I even had a bike cop wave back once. :good:
I have had some Harley riders initiate the wave. I almost crashed. :wacko2:
Never ever seen a Harley rider wave at me.. i used to wave at them as well as everyone else but stopped when I realised i had gone for years with no reply.. i believe they might just be blinded by sunlight reflecting off chrome? Or have such a death-grip on their mighty steeds they cannot free up a hand.. Or maybe the fact that they have a 100kmh wind blast trying to get through their sunglasses and skull-patterned bandanas wrapped around their faces to filter the bugs and cow shit flicked up by passing cars because none of them wear full face helmets, just those damn ridiculous coal scuttles/German WW2 helmets,,
Can you tell I'm not a fan?
I also just don't wave to scooters, because quite frankly they are beneath my dignity. good2
The other thing is, on the other side of the world where we drive on the correct side of the road , the only free hand you really have - clutch - is on the off-side, and not easily seen unless you do a full salute, which can be interesting mid-corner..
Happy riding!
James
Quote from: tmkaos on August 13, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
the other thing is, on the other side of the world where we drive on the correct side of the road , the only free hand you really have - clutch - is on the off-side, and not easily seen unless you do a full salute, which can be interesting mid-corner..
Happy riding!
James
Since the internal combustion powered car and motorcycle were inverted in Germany they can decide which side of the road is correct. They choose the right side. (popcorn)
Kurt
Quote from: bigbore2 on August 13, 2012, 06:21:07 PM
almost fell off my bike when 2 Harley guys waived...
I suspect they were shaking out their hands to fight numbness from the vibration... :bomb:
Although the average Harley rider is quite sociable and wants to celebrate "the brotherhood", they typically won't waive because they're are shaking so badly they can't actually see that you are waiving. :wacko3:
Frank
Here in the states, I noticed a big change after 9/11. It kinda tapered off just a wee bit as the years have gone by but still, I'll get about 8 out of 10 riders wave back. I always initiate the wave.
I'm with you Felix (Pat).......my grandparents raised me and taught me to always be polite......try at least......as I got older...the fangs of the world sunk into me and a bitterness became my companion....everyone around me seemed angry all the time.... After a long while I realized that I became what I hated...... an unhappy man !!! So I decided to hold the doors open again.....let people in front of me.....return a snarl with a smile.......and wave at the NON WAIVERS..............and before I knew it......I saw everyone around me start doing the same....and it wasn't too long that I saw my whole world around me had changed.....Love truly is a power to be reckoned with......
Canlovemman
Right on Kev, yea, isn't life a funny old dog?
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on August 13, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: tmkaos on August 13, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
the other thing is, on the other side of the world where we drive on the correct side of the road , the only free hand you really have - clutch - is on the off-side, and not easily seen unless you do a full salute, which can be interesting mid-corner..
Happy riding!
James
Since the internal combustion powered car and motorcycle were inverted in Germany they can decide which side of the road is correct. They choose the right side. (popcorn)
Kurt
Your Typo says it all. :pardon:
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on August 13, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: tmkaos on August 13, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
the other thing is, on the other side of the world where we drive on the correct side of the road , the only free hand you really have - clutch - is on the off-side, and not easily seen unless you do a full salute, which can be interesting mid-corner..
Happy riding!
James
Since the internal combustion powered car and motorcycle were inverted in Germany they can decide which side of the road is correct. They choose the right side. (popcorn)
Kurt
Germany was originally on the left.
Thank you for making my point. :good2:
Kurt
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on August 13, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: tmkaos on August 13, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
the other thing is, on the other side of the world where we drive on the correct side of the road , the only free hand you really have - clutch - is on the off-side, and not easily seen unless you do a full salute, which can be interesting mid-corner..
Happy riding!
James
Since the internal combustion powered car and motorcycle were invented in Germany they can decide which side of the road is correct. They choose the right side. (popcorn)
Kurt
Invented My bad.
Kurt
In IL, helmets aren't mandatory, so squids and harley "lifestyle" riders don't wear them.
Makes it easier for me. I wave to any rider with a helmet, scooters and all. :)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 14, 2012, 12:53:18 AM
Right on Kev, yea, isn't life a funny old dog?
Sure is.......and what joy it is to meet a good soul...........and there are so many in here !!!!!!
<< Psalm 133 >>
King James Version
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1<> Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
2It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
3As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.
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Canbelieveitman
PS......Speaking of funny old dogs....well....I couldn't resist
Ultimate Dog Tease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw#)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 14, 2012, 12:53:18 AM
Right on Kev, yea, isn't life a funny old dog?
Speaking of which, the Blackdog ride to Alice Springs leaves this Saturday from Team moto Enoggera. (brisbane) I`ll be there for breaky 7.30 till 8.00am.
But to keep on thread (a bit anyhow) - the reasons you yanks drive on the right is because of ya habit of doing everything BIG.
The papal system prevailed until the late 1700s, when teamsters in the United States and France began hauling farm products in big wagons pulled by several pairs of horses. These wagons had no driver's seat; instead the driver sat on the left arse end of the horse, so he could keep his right arm free to lash the team. Since you were sitting on the left, naturally you wanted everybody to pass on the left so you could look down and make sure you kept clear of the other guy's wheels. Ergo, you kept to the right side of the road.
However England (1700s) where small-is-beautiful, they didn't use monster wagons that required the driver to ride a horse; instead the guy sat on a seat mounted on the wagon. What's more, he usually sat on the right side of the seat so the whip wouldn't hang up on the load behind him when he flogged the horses. (Then, as now, most people did their flogging right-handed.) So the English continued to drive on the left... Keeping left first entered English law in 1756, with the enactment of an ordinance governing traffic on the London Bridge, and ultimately became the rule throughout the British Empire.
Wars kinda influenced things from there. - So you can waive ta bikes, while we just nod - thanks to your profound outlook of an arse. :biggrin:
Lets remember right side of the road people did not fire the first shot. Funny how we there in the USA are told your wrong, bad, corrupt, evil, stupid and under no circumstances would any body else want to be you, but when they get in trouble who is the first one they call?
Kurt
Quote from: CanDman on August 13, 2012, 10:06:36 PM
I'm with you Felix (Pat).......my grandparents raised me and taught me to always be polite......try at least......as I got older...the fangs of the world sunk into me and a bitterness became my companion....everyone around me seemed angry all the time.... After a long while I realized that I became what I hated...... an unhappy man !!! So I decided to hold the doors open again.....let people in front of me.....return a snarl with a smile.......and wave at the NON WAIVERS..............and before I knew it......I saw everyone around me start doing the same....and it wasn't too long that I saw my whole world around me had changed.....Love truly is a power to be reckoned with......
Canlovemman
There's a
song in there somewhere. :music: Drummers make the best lyricists.
PEACE!
Bless you Ryan.........most kind of you to say so.........I have met such great people here and I am so proud to be counted among them....Finding Jahway
Kev
Regardless, lets just keep waiving for the "brotherhood".
Yipee, a waving thread!!
I wave at most riders, and feel terrible if, after not getting a response wave from a few bikes I decide not to wave to the next one - and they wave at me.
Our waving hand may be on the off-side here in NZ, but that doesn't stop the arm up over the head, finger wiggle and the corresponding right leg shake out. Is that how you guys do it? It makes the scooter riders nearly run off the road when they see it, I'm sure they think it's some sort of challenge. I guess if I did it somewhere else in the world someone would call it a Haka.
Finally, I'm intrigued. We wave here, some of you seem to waive. Is it a typo (surely not, it's only four letters, why add another?), in NZ if you waived, you would not actually be doing anything (popcorn)
Wave On!
I'm with you mate, wave makes sence , , scooter riders down here seem to head for cover if you wave to them, must think were all bikeys :lol: might run them off the road and steal their scooters
In the uk bikers nod/dip the head, no one waves, although many will hold out the left hand in thanks to curteous drivers who pull tight to the kerb to allow you pass or to overtake.
Americans drive on the right so that the Passenger, who will in most cases be right handed, can shot from the passenger side of the moving vehicle. This has been well documented in automotive historical research.
On an interesting side note the Latin for left is sinister (right is dexter). Hence lefties being persecuted throughout history.
I should have added this to the earlier post....
Who has instinctively waved to another bike when driving a car? Even just lifting your fingers from the wheel.
My wife caught me doing this the other day and mentioned that I do it quite a bit.
Also, on the subject of scooters. My son has a 50cc that I had to ride home. As I had all my gear I looked like what could be termed the Stig in a pedal car. No one waved, but I am sure there was pointing going on! :mocking:
guilty, I allways do the wheel wave , usually get a weird look from the rider though :sarcastic: , , head nod works here too, probably more common than the wave
"I looked like what could be termed the Stig in a pedal car."
LOL what music were you listening to???
Eric M
Quote from: nurse on August 17, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
On an interesting side note the Latin for left is sinister (right is dexter). Hence lefties being persecuted throughout history.
Or maybe they got persecuted 'cause they dragged their left hand across the ink when they wrote makin' themselves out to be an uncouth sloth...
Quote from: bigbore2 on August 13, 2012, 06:21:07 PM
Just started riding road again after a few years off. [riding 84 1100 ] In the 70's everyone on a bike waived because of what i call the "brotherhood of riding". Except for the Harley guys in the 70's, they only waived at Harley guys. Then In the 80's and 90's riding had changed so that when riding only the sportbike guys waived at sportbike guys and cruiser bike guys waived at cruiser bike guys etc. And the Harley guys, well. Now I am out riding and I am blown away, everyone is waiving at me. I almost fell off my bike when 2 Harley guys waived. Has someone been talking to the Harley guys?
Kinda like talking to a wall. Wouldn't you need to speak pidgin? :-)
Arnie