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Title: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 28, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
I moved Randy's post over for more exposure and discussion. Pat

Quote from: Flynt on July 26, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
Quote from: musicman on July 26, 2012, 02:03:20 PM

Is that a custom exhaust?

Not custom.  It is the Akra race version for the XJR1300...  Marc Rittner sourced this from Europe.  It is quite cool and well made I believe.

RPM Randy is knocking it off I believe so we can have more like it for our domestic FJ crew.

Frank

Quote from: tmkaos on July 26, 2012, 10:36:42 PM
I believe the correct term is "Reverse Engineering"...

Nope, a new complete stainless steel system from the header flange to the muffler tip. I am in discussions with a company that is interested in manufacturing a complete system for the FJ.

We will be using all versions of the FJ for the design & engineering phase. I have a list of notes of issues that need to be addressed, oil drain plug access, lower fairing fitment, muffler design & noise to name a few.

The discussions are at the mid phase and the next discussion is to start scheduling bikes into the manufacture for design.

We have discussed price, but nothing can be solidified until they see the bike first hand and start the process, I do not have a cost. My goal is to have several different levels of the system from aluminum & carbon fiber to titanium mufflers.

Look for more information next spring.

Randy - RPM


Quote from: Flynt on July 26, 2012, 10:51:17 PMNo offense to Randy intended... :flag_of_truce:
Frank

No offense taken Frank...I have added that comment to your bill :biggrin:
Title: Re: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: yamaha fj rider on July 28, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
 :yahoo: Randy if it comes from you I want one, will be looking forward to seeing these in the spring. Thank you Randy!!!!  :yahoo:   (popcorn)

Kurt   
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 28, 2012, 01:17:58 PM
Years ago, I remember seeing a 4 into 2 into 1 header design where the #4 primary tube crossed over the #2 and #3 tubes and connected via merge collector to the #1 primary tube.

This would be the correct 4-2-1 configuration on a engine with a 1-2-4-3 firing order, however obviously the primary's were not equal in length.

The header sure looked strange. Instead of the customary look of 4 primary down tubes running straight down, the #4 tube crossing over looked weird.

....and forget about fitting it with a chin fairing.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Mike Ramos on July 28, 2012, 01:21:33 PM
Hello everyone,
Heck, I was just at the RPM shop yesterday, and there was no mention of a new exhaust system.
However, Randy was busy with my bike, & while minor it was important.
I would like to give Randy a "special thanks" for taking time between other projects to spend time on my bike.
And I took advantage of a new service Randy offered.
More on a later posting as I'm short on time at the moment.
Ride safe,
Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: nurse on July 28, 2012, 05:38:01 PM
Will retaining the centre stand be a possibility, I do like my centre stand!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: yamaha fj rider on August 31, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Randy shock and exhaust update please. Many thank's Randy.

Kurt
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on August 31, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on August 31, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Randy shock and exhaust update please. Many thank's Randy.

Kurt

The exhaust will not start the design phase until  the fall, October/November. From there the manufacturing and testing of the prototypes will be tested for performance & fit. I am hoping for spring 2013.

The rear shock is in the final assembly & dyno testing before heading to me in the next week or so to begin road testing. I am hoping the setup will be close and not many changes will be required.

Believe me, I have a lot of money tied up in the shocks and have been patiently awaiting the product to arrive. I need the shocks to be done before I am truly able to invest in the exhaust. Fortunately the manufacture can't begin until the fall, so hopefully all the pieces will fall in place.

It is with everyone's current and continuing support that allows me to bring these needed items for the FJ to life.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: yamaha fj rider on August 31, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
Randy thank you for the update and hard work. I was going to buy a Penske shock but I would rather have yours and don't mind waiting. Looking forward to when they are available. Do you nave a ballpark on the price and further information on specification. Thank you again and keep up the good work.  :good2:

Kurt   
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's/Rear Shock
Post by: Mike Ramos on September 01, 2012, 12:03:24 AM
Gentlemen,

I agree with Kurt (and others as well). I am also waiting the new shock from RPM based on my most pleasant experience with the Fork Valves, which have far exceeded expectations.

Having many miles on my FJ, the swing arm bearings needed replacing. While it was off, I had the swing arm  strengthened by having a side plates welded to the outside surfaces for increased rigidity and sideways flex should be minimized by cross bracing that was added. The mounting points remain stock & are not effected by the strengthening.

While I have no doubt the new shock will certainly add to the demands of the suspension components, it will be interesting to see if strengthened swing arm noticeably improves the feel of the bike.

There are a few poor quality pictures in the Gallery (under Bike Photos). I'll learn to improve & post them soon.

Ride safe,

Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
Okay, the design phase is going to get started in the next couple of weeks. I just want to confirm I have all of the issues addressed during the design phase.

1) Bolt on system requiring no modification to mount.
2) Chin fairing clearance.
3) Oil pan drain plug access.
4) Center stand use & function.

Is there anything else during the design that anyone see that I need to address as well?

Let me know, Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJmonkey on November 01, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
Okay, the design phase is going to get started in the next couple of weeks. I just want to confirm I have all of the issues addressed during the design phase.

1) Bolt on system requiring no modification to mount.
2) Chin fairing clearance.
3) Oil pan drain plug access.
4) Center stand use & function.

Is there anything else during the design that anyone see that I need to address as well?

Let me know, Randy - RPM

Let me speak up for Father Pat and his Simichrome congregation of followers.
5) Already polished. :biggrin:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: aviationfred on November 01, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
Okay, the design phase is going to get started in the next couple of weeks. I just want to confirm I have all of the issues addressed during the design phase.

1) Bolt on system requiring no modification to mount.
2) Chin fairing clearance.
3) Oil pan drain plug access.
4) Center stand use & function.

Is there anything else during the design that anyone see that I need to address as well?

Let me know, Randy - RPM

Maybe a universal muffler hanger to account for the diferrences in the 84-87, 89-90, and 91-93 foot peg brackets
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on November 01, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
Maybe a universal muffler hanger to account for the diferrences in the 84-87, 89-90, and 91-93 foot peg brackets

I have arranged all three FJ models to be there for the design so the possibility of inter grating a universal mount is possible.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
Lots of FJ's use saddle bags, GIVI or other.  It was my understanding that the original FJ exhaust was kept low for mounting bags, I would recommend the mufflers height not exceed OEM.  Randy are you thinking 4-1 or 4-2 systems? (I like the symmetrical look of a 4 into 2 system).

John
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: WhiteBeard on November 01, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
Randy are you thinking 4-1 or 4-2 systems? (I like the symmetrical look of a 4 into 2 system).

+1

/Nat
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 02:46:07 PM
Lots of FJ's use saddle bags, GIVI or other.  It was my understanding that the original FJ exhaust was kept low for mounting bags, I would recommend the mufflers height not exceed OEM.  Randy are you thinking 4-1 or 4-2 systems? (I like the symmetrical look of a 4 into 2 system).

John

The mounting and angle of the exhaust are to be as close to factory, just for the reasons explained.

It will be a 4-2-1 system. The difficulty of the 4-2 is the collector box that is required. The manufacture does not do that style of exhaust and based on my research when beginning this a while back was the collector box is a large expense to manufacture. The other issue of the collector box is noise. When the system is made out of S/S the material used is thinner and the noise produced from the collector box is increased significantly.

The 4-2-1 system is to allow access to the drain plug without removing the exhaust for service purposes.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Makes sense, and since your middle name *is* Performance I can see why you'd go that way.  Next question:  Are you going to offer turn-key bikes with all your goods already installed, like Yenko, Roush & Saleen? :)
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on November 01, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Next question:  Are you going to offer turn-key bikes with all your goods already installed, like Yenko, Roush & Saleen? :)


Hmmmm...I know there was a reason I was picking up bikes to sit around the shop...

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: aviationfred on November 01, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on November 01, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
Makes sense, and since your middle name *is* Performance I can see why you'd go that way.  Next question:  Are you going to offer turn-key bikes with all your goods already installed, like Yenko, Roush & Saleen? :)

Hmm..... Now that is an interesting thought. Buy up dead or dying FJ's and resurrect them with a mild 1250 bore, FZR front wheel, GSXR 750 rear wheel and all Randy's goodies.

Fred
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Harvy on November 01, 2012, 04:37:52 PM
 Hmmmmmm.......My Tranzac is mild steel and is not going to last much longer.......this could be just what the Dr ordered.


Harvy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Klavdy on November 01, 2012, 06:23:52 PM
Modernised,original looking FJ's?
Sweet.
There's still a big demand for retro.
As an example,Jeep Grand Wagoneers (http://www.grandwagoneer.com/) are quite popular,you could be onto a cult classic with a rebuilt, modernised machine, Randy.
The Jeeps get a pretty good price too. (http://www.wagonmaster.com/complete.htm)
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dan Filetti on November 01, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
Quote from: Klavdy on November 01, 2012, 06:23:52 PM
Modernised,original looking FJ's?
Sweet.
There's still a big demand for retro.
As an example,Jeep Grand Wagoneers (http://www.grandwagoneer.com/) are quite popular,you could be onto a cult classic with a rebuilt, modernised machine, Randy.
The Jeeps get a pretty good price too. (http://www.wagonmaster.com/complete.htm)


My Mother drove one of those!!  She replaced it with an International Scout, which I proceeded to wrap around a tree, but that is another teen-aged drunken/ stoned binge story, for another time...

Dan
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Harvy on November 01, 2012, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on November 01, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
  She replaced it with an International Scout

Dan

I had one of them! big grey monster LWB with the 345ci Canadian V8 truck motor and Chrysler auto......was a good thing!

Harvy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dan Filetti on November 01, 2012, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: Harvy on November 01, 2012, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on November 01, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
  She replaced it with an International Scout

Dan

I had one of them! big grey monster LWB with the 345ci Canadian V8 truck motor and Chrysler auto......was a good thing!

Harvy

Great machines the Scouts. This was a red and white striped Scout II with a dorky white hard top -never was able to convince my mother to remove that hard top...  It was rebuilt after its unfortunate encounter with that mighty Black walnut tree. I drove past that tree a few months back, it still bares the mark that Scout left behind that Snowy January day.


Makes me smile to think about that beast.

Dan
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: baldy3853 on November 04, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Randy
The opition of having the headers porcelin coated inside and out will also be a big help in pushing the heat out the rear end and allow the headers to be a lot cooler keep the heat away from the motor etc
Baldy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 04, 2012, 09:14:52 PM
Also to consider is the packing on the muffler. Staintune (Aus) uses a scrubbable stainless steel packing which is a life time product.

Never do you have to disassemble the unit to replace blown out fiberglass packing....  :good:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on February 12, 2013, 07:26:56 PM
The prototype header has arrived and has now been test fitted on all models of the FJ. Small issues have been noted and sent to the manufacture for addressing. Nothing major, just some minor mounting issue.

I can tell you so far it is trick. I pulled a complete stock system from the bike it is currently installed on. The O.E. system weighs in at 35.8 lbs.

The RPM exhaust with the aluminum muffler tips the scales at 9.6 lbs with the aluminum muffler. There are going to be two other options for the muffler which will be lighter in titanium and carbon fiber. This muffler is significantly quieter than the Supertrapp I had on my 86 prior.

There is also a Megaphone muffler that will bolt right on. I wasn't a fan at just seeing it in the photos, but after installing it it looks cool.

We have a few weeks of testing to confirm no other issues with the application and we should be able to get the system into production.

Stay tuned as I hope to have the system ready within the next month or so.

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 07:41:32 PM
Randy, is the system a 1 piece 4 into 1?

My old 4 into 1 is not much longer for this world (read rust) so I am hoping to replace it with one of yours in the near future and keep my existing Micron can.

Cheers
Harvy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 12, 2013, 08:44:23 PM
Harvy, Randy has been clear that access to the oil drain is paramount, I am not aware of a 4 into 1 system that would allow this. Randy already has discussed in this thread about a 4 into 2 into 1 system.

I am looking forward to replacing my Kerker 4/1 system just for the ease of oil changes... Cheers!  Pat
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
Thanks Pat


My old 4 into 1 must be a rarity in that it allows access to the sump plug no problem.

Cheers
Harvy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerman_27410 on February 12, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
Thanks Pat


My old 4 into 1 must be a rarity in that it allows access to the sump plug no problem.

Cheers
Harvy

My supertrapp also allows for access to the drain plug.


KOokaloo!

Frank
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 12, 2013, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
Thanks Pat


My old 4 into 1 must be a rarity in that it allows access to the sump plug no problem.

Cheers
Harvy

What system is it?
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 09:42:43 PM
Pat, its an old Tranzac system made for the FJ1100 here in Redland Bay just out of Brisbane ... http://www.tranzac.com.au/ (http://www.tranzac.com.au/)

They still list 4-1 for FJ1100-1200.

I will have to take the chin fairing off and take a picture or 2.

Harvy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: oz.fj on February 12, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: racerman_27410 on February 12, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: Harvy on February 12, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
Thanks Pat


My old 4 into 1 must be a rarity in that it allows access to the sump plug no problem.

Cheers
Harvy

My supertrapp also allows for access to the drain plug.


KOokaloo!

Frank

My 4 into 1 Supertrapp allows access to the sump plug too

Darran
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 13, 2013, 12:56:04 AM
Frank, Darran, I believe you and I stand corrected, but, how does that work?
Aren't the four head pipes or the merge collector centered right under the drain? Can you fit your chin fairing?

I've always liked the stainless Supertrapp systems.
Last year on our cross country trip from the WCR to Gunnison Colorado, I remember hearing Andy French's Suppertrapp echoing off the walls of Utah's Bryce Canyon, thinking to myself how bitchen that system sounded...
Let's see..
1) a light weight rust free stainless system...check
2) you can fine tune by adding/subtracting baffle plates...check
3) and it has a gnarly ripping sound like a mini gun...check
4) you can drain your oil without having to take that fucker off...check
Yea, I would love to have one of those....
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Derek Young on February 13, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
If I remember correctly, the drainplug is between the pipes just before where they join.  I used a 6" extension on the socket to remove the plug.  Some oil gets on the header.  Will be finding out soon when I put mine on the 91.  Had to make the opening on the bottom of the chin Fairing a little larger to fit when it was on the 86. 

Derek
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJ12PD on February 13, 2013, 12:09:58 PM
Randy if the company you are working with falls through somehow this guy custom makes exhaust for V-Maxes and they are nice. he will make any style. I believe he used to work for kerker or v n h possibly now does his own.
http://marksperformance.com/vmax.html (http://marksperformance.com/vmax.html)
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on February 13, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
As already mentioned this will be a 4-2-1 system. It is a true bolt on system without any modifications required. No trimming of chin fairings, drilling holes or anything like that.

My Supertrapp 4-1 S/S system did allow for drain plug access, but it did get oil all over everything when it was draining. You are also unable to reach the plug to reinstall and must use a socket.

The Supertrapp also hangs down below the chin fairing and has the speed bump scrapes and tubing compression to prove it. The header was installed before I bought my bike and whoever installed it did not clearance the chin fairing. It was melted where the pipes contacted the header.

The new RPM header will not hang below the chin fairing so it will never hit the ground unless you break the chin fairing off after you jump it. plus, you will be able to reach up and install the drain plug with your fingers and not use a socket for that task.

There will be a few at the WCR for sure and you guys in attendance can attest for the system after you see it.

FJ12PD, thanks for the note on the other exhaust guy, but this company is how I wished all companies worked. They are Johnny on the spot with what we are doing and it has been a true pleasure to work with them.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Mike Ramos on February 13, 2013, 02:02:35 PM
Greetings everyone,

This header news is great. Now I can really increase the power to weight ratio without having to diet! Oh boy, all the pop corn, root beer and Candie I can handle!

However, the only truly good muffler is a flow through, for both sound quality (not obnoxiously loud), a good & throaty idle with pleasant high end singing; and for perhaps better high rpm performance as well.

So, what about the muffler itself? Flow through or run of the mill with plates & steel wool?

Ride safe,

Mike Ramos.
Title: Q
Post by: Harvy on February 13, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on February 13, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
1. No trimming of chin fairings, drilling holes or anything like that.


2. install the drain plug with your fingers and not use a socket for that task.



Randy - RPM

1. Same on the Tranzac
2. I could but I don't - I always drain the oil from a hot motor/pipes - too hot for fingers - just as easy to use a 3" extension on the 17mm socket.

But I hear ya mate! Really the only down side to mine is the mild steel construction - I would prefer stainless.

Harvy

Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJ12PD on February 14, 2013, 03:02:22 PM
Good to hear you have a good supplier.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: oz.fj on February 14, 2013, 03:14:03 PM
 
As Derek said the drain plug is between the pipes before they join. However I have enough clearance on mine to reach the plug with my fingers and get minimal oil on the pipes when draining. In saying that I have never had a lower cowl installed and are are unsure if it would fit as I have scrapes and a couple of dings in the pipes. I see from Franks avatar that he has a chin fairing on.
Darran
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: andyoutandabout on February 15, 2013, 12:09:32 AM
Oh Yes Father Pat, what an awesome year 2012 was. I remember you mentioning at one of our roadside photo opportunities, that you were digging the sound of the supertrapp. Not sure how we're going to best that double rally experience, but I look forward to catching up with you, Ed and Paul in Petaluma. I've heard that this years rally will be even better, something about strippers Marsh said.
Andy
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: keand3 on February 17, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
I'm really looking forward to this new exhaust system!

When you know Randy has it in store you don't bother looking elsewere for it.
At least for me when i add the shipping cost, Randy always turns out victorious :good2:

Ken
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 17, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on February 15, 2013, 12:09:32 AM
........., but I look forward to catching up with you, Ed and Paul in Petaluma. I've heard that this years rally will be even better, something about strippers Marsh said.
Andy

Don't get yer hopes up, I've heard it's going to be Klavdy and Baldy in thongs....... :bad:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: fintip on May 06, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
I'm still curious about Mr. Ramos' question above. Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on May 06, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: fintip on May 06, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
I'm still curious about Mr. Ramos' question above. Inquiring minds want to know!

Is this a question for me, if so what is it?

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJmonkey on May 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 06, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: fintip on May 06, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
I'm still curious about Mr. Ramos' question above. Inquiring minds want to know!

Is this a question for me, if so what is it?

Randy - RPM

Yes randy, don't you know that... Come on... WTF???

And thank you for helping me sort out my carbs, the fuel delivery issues a gone... 200+ miles per tank now... You are the man...
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on May 06, 2013, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Yes randy, don't you know that... Come on... WTF???

Well, I went back through the thread and I believe the question is full flow or baffled muffler.

The new RPM exhaust will be full flow muffler and there is a procedure in place for "breaking in" a new muffler to prolong muffler life.

Several emails exchanged last week regarding the exhaust, I am still shooting for the first of the month. It is amazing how the smallest items are the hardest to work out...

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 07, 2013, 12:31:02 AM
What packing material will be used?
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on May 07, 2013, 12:56:43 AM
I don't know, I will ask in one of my next emails.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: RichBaker on May 07, 2013, 03:49:07 AM
Randy, what is the break-in procedure. 1st time I've heard of it....
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: JMR on May 07, 2013, 09:42:23 AM
Quote from: RichBaker on May 07, 2013, 03:49:07 AM
Randy, what is the break-in procedure. 1st time I've heard of it....
Me too. I assume for the exhaust coating (ie heat cycles)?
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: aviationfred on May 07, 2013, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 06, 2013, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Yes randy, don't you know that... Come on... WTF???

Well, I went back through the thread and I believe the question is full flow or baffled muffler.

The new RPM exhaust will be full flow muffler and there is a procedure in place for "breaking in" a new muffler to prolong muffler life.

Several emails exchanged last week regarding the exhaust, I am still shooting for the first of the month. It is amazing how the smallest items are the hardest to work out...

Randy - RPM



Randy,

Are there any photos of the exhaust available to drool over?

Fred
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on May 07, 2013, 05:13:27 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on May 07, 2013, 04:23:23 PM
Randy,

Are there any photos of the exhaust available to drool over?

Fred

No, the test system they sent me was pretty ugly as it was all a bunch of pieces welded together. It was a different application muffler and did not fit like I had hoped. After I test fit and rode to make sure nothing was an issue I sent it back with changes required. All of the changes were made on the fitment bikes and I have see those photos & videos, but it still is the ugly welded piece exhaust.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: baldy3853 on May 07, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 17, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on February 15, 2013, 12:09:32 AM
........., but I look forward to catching up with you, Ed and Paul in Petaluma. I've heard that this years rally will be even better, something about strippers Marsh said.
Andy

Don't get yer hopes up, I've heard it's going to be Klavdy and Baldy in thongs....... :bad:
You bet your sweet bippy Thongs it is  :good2:  :yahoo:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: fintip on May 07, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
That was my question. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on June 17, 2013, 11:30:56 AM
Okay, I just got off of the phone with the manufacture. The jigs have finally been completed and the production run started this morning.

They say the systems will be completed be the end of the week, they should be assembled and ready to ship to me the first of next week.

So, hopefully just a couple more weeks and I will have them on the shelf.

Once I get them I will get both versions mounted up, photos taken and listed on the website.

I do and will not know the price until the shipping method is determined. Not sure if we are shipping via UPS or a pallet on a carrier at this point until they are all built and boxed. Once I have that cost I can determine the out the door price.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: fintip on June 17, 2013, 01:34:30 PM
Awww, come on, not even some rough estimates? Pleeeeaaaase?  :smile:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on June 17, 2013, 02:05:23 PM
Quote from: fintip on June 17, 2013, 01:34:30 PM
Awww, come on, not even some rough estimates? Pleeeeaaaase?  :smile:

Okay, just so I dont lose my shorts in shipping costs...

I will make you a special deal...


























$1,000,000.00 :rofl:

If that is too high, I have a price for you in a few weeks after they get shipped...

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dan Filetti on June 17, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 17, 2013, 02:05:23 PM
$1,000,000.00

I wonder, did you hold your pinky to your mouth when you typed that?
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on June 17, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on June 17, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
I wonder, did you hold your pinky to your mouth when you typed that?

Yes, thus the appropriate smiley was attached. :rofl: :lol:

I will be posting the price just as I stated earlier...once I know the total cost of everything.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: BadBro on October 29, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Anymore developments on headers?  Or did miss something?
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on April 17, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
Okay, some sneak peeks at the RPM header with the polished S/S megaphone muffler.

The initial order has been confirmed and final signature will be required, along with a big check, on the contract they told me I would see tomorrow. The contract will also have a confirmed delivery date at which time I can advise when they will be available.

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/001_zps836d8b6d.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/001_zps836d8b6d.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/002_zpsb7ec27f3.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/002_zpsb7ec27f3.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/003_zps7d58c1ca.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/003_zps7d58c1ca.jpg.html)

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: big r on April 17, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
That looks totally awesome Randy. Big R
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Burns on April 17, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: Klavdy on November 01, 2012, 06:23:52 PM
Modernised,original looking FJ's?
Sweet.
There's still a big demand for retro.
As an example,Jeep Grand Wagoneers (http://www.grandwagoneer.com/) are quite popular,you could be onto a cult classic with a rebuilt, modernised machine, Randy.
The Jeeps get a pretty good price too. (http://www.wagonmaster.com/complete.htm)

I believe the FJ11-12 is a classic right now, but I may be a little ahead of my time.  Generally, bone-stock pristine examples fetch the highest bid in "classics".  The "enthusiast" market is a different animal.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Joe Sull on April 17, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
That look super! How is the muffler baffled? Or should I say, is it packed or baffled?
It's got great lines and I like the megaphone, for sure. :i_am_so_happy:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on April 17, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: Joe Sull on April 17, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
That look super! How is the muffler baffled? Or should I say, is it packed or baffled?
It's got great lines and I like the megaphone, for sure. :i_am_so_happy:

Free flow, non-baffled mufflers.

I will post up the full details once we have them in the queue to get them on the shelf.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: andyb on April 17, 2014, 06:39:18 PM
That looks awesome.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerman_27410 on April 17, 2014, 08:57:38 PM
Very clean.... i like the way everything is tucked up nice and tight under the bike.   :good2:


KOokaloo!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: redwolf50 on May 29, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
Two words....I WANT!!!!!  just what i been looking for!!!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: TexasDave on May 29, 2014, 04:28:38 PM
I like the look of the megaphone. I saw it at RPM when I was there and tried to stick it under my shirt and take it home but there wasn't alot of room next to my belly. Plus Randy was watching.   :lol:  Dave
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: redwolf50 on May 29, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
A 4-2-1 with megs? Can we say perfect? :biggrin:
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Easterntide on May 30, 2014, 06:18:30 AM
Dammit thats nice. dammit.
Can anyone thats seen this elaborate on what kind of note its emitting? rumble/growl or scream
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Dan Filetti on May 30, 2014, 07:58:16 AM
I saw/ heard that exhaust at the ECFR last year, Mike from LA had it on his ride, as a sort of prototype test program, as I understand.  It sounded really nice, although I never heard it at full song.  At idle and when goosed, it sounded solid with a pleasing growl-y tune to it.  I likened the sound to that of my Yoshimora exhaust. 

There were no hints of that harsh/ rattle as some other exhausts have.  Hindle as an example, is an exhaust that I think sounds awful for this reason. Looking at it, I'd say it was a well crafted, nice piece, seemed solid and well put together.

FWIW.

Dan
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: ccsct203 on June 02, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
and after I just had my V$H ceramic coated
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 24, 2014, 12:36:02 PM
The time has almost arrived...with a lot of blood, sweat and tears on this system...

    They have arrived today. I have to inventory everything & put it on the shelf in the proper kit form. I also am going to do a test fit to make sure the final production system fits like the final R&D system.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/013_zps534bfecf.jpg~original) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/013_zps534bfecf.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/014_zps889fd1de.jpg~original) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/014_zps889fd1de.jpg.html)

There will be another update posted here very soon.

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJscott on July 24, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on April 17, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
Okay, some sneak peeks at the RPM header with the polished S/S megaphone muffler.

The initial order has been confirmed and final signature will be required, along with a big check, on the contract they told me I would see tomorrow. The contract will also have a confirmed delivery date at which time I can advise when they will be available.

(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/001_zps836d8b6d.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/001_zps836d8b6d.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/002_zpsb7ec27f3.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/002_zpsb7ec27f3.jpg.html)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/003_zps7d58c1ca.jpg) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/003_zps7d58c1ca.jpg.html)

Randy - RPM
Looks great, I would need to hear it.
Scott
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 24, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: FJscott on July 24, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Looks great, I would need to hear it.
Scott

You did not hear at the WCR?

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on July 24, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
Is the muffler a baffle design or a glass pack?

I like quiet!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 24, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 24, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
Is the muffler a baffle design or a glass pack?

It is a through design muffler without baffles. The megaphone muffler is loader that the other mufflers. They are not noisy but do change the tone of the FJ to sound a lot like a current bike with a nice throaty note.

Did you Ramos' bike at the rally last year?

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: FJscott on July 24, 2014, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on July 24, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: FJscott on July 24, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
Looks great, I would need to hear it.
Scott

You did not hear at the WCR?

Randy - RPM

No, I wanted to but the social director had us on different rides. I have heard other inline 4's with Hindle megaphone's and I like
the exhaust note, quiet but throaty.

I'm saving my nipples, dimes and quarters for the EFI IPO (initial public offering) Unless you need a East Coast test pilot :dance2:
Ill send you my 92 and pick it up at next years WCR.

Scott
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: skymasteres on July 24, 2014, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: FJscott on July 24, 2014, 03:47:00 PM

I'm saving my nipples, dimes and quarters for the EFI IPO (initial public offering)

Scott

That kind of savings plan never even occurred to me.  :rofl:

But I myself would be keenly interested in aiding Randy in the RPM EFI development.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: RD56 on July 24, 2014, 07:36:16 PM
So that I can figure out how much time you will need to buy the system how much is a nipple worth? Must be at least a dollar!!!!
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Flynt on July 24, 2014, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: skymasteres on July 24, 2014, 07:33:33 PM
But I myself would be keenly interested in aiding Randy in the RPM EFI development.

Randy - I think you found someone to crash test the EFI for you...  :lol: :rofl: :rofl2:

Frank

PS - Sorry Mike, I really tried to resist.
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 25, 2014, 08:51:44 PM
Okay, I am awaiting the arrival of a 89-90 bike so that I can confirm fitment and should see that bike the middle of next week.

I wanted to pass along some numbers for you to see the what the RPM system has to offer over the O.E. header.

The stock O.E. header weighs 31.6 lbs

The RPM header as listed by the differing muffler packages.

Carbon Fiber -    8.5 lbs
Titanium -          8.7 lbs
Stainless Steel - 9.9 lbs
Megaphone -      9.3 lbs.

So that is a range of 21.7-23.1 lbs saving over the stock system or 70+%

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on July 30, 2014, 10:48:23 PM
I found a video of the tone we took after mike got back from the Fall rally in 2013. So this now has more than 3000 miles on it. It is hard to get quality sound on a video...
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/th_025_zps8abea39c.mp4) (http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/025_zps8abea39c.mp4)

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: JMR on July 31, 2014, 12:28:05 PM
I have run 2 different Hindle's on my FJ (4/1). The RPM pipe certainly fits much better
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: racerrad8 on August 01, 2014, 05:10:46 PM
Alright, the final test fitting is done on all models of the FJ and it is now listed on the RPM website for sale; RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader)

The weights for all options are listed as well.

I am awaiting the arrival of the shipping boxes and they are supposed to be here Monday or Tuesday. Once the boxes are here they will be shipping.

Thank you again for your continued support and I am looking forward to bring more & more options to the market for the FJ.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: In development: RPM header for FJ's
Post by: Easterntide on August 02, 2014, 05:38:57 AM
That's stunningly nice and I can't believe how inexpensive it is especially for the upgraded carbon or it! Well done again!