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General Category => Yamaha FJ1100 / FJ1200 Running Problems => Topic started by: Shaun on July 29, 2009, 03:30:41 PM

Title: Oil not draining
Post by: Shaun on July 29, 2009, 03:30:41 PM
I went to do some basic tlc plugs brake pads and oil change, dropped the exhaust removed the drain plug and out dribbled not much. However the oil glass said it was full no oil light showing up top. So took out oil filter and a little more dribbled out, but no where near the specified amount of oil. Next step put the key in the ignition and turn the bike over and pump the oil out the oil filter port, is this normal? Bike seems to run fine, no oil issues to notice. Thoughts on this?
Shaun
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: racerman_27410 on July 29, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
did you take the entire plug out or just the screw in the center?
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Shaun on July 29, 2009, 06:01:24 PM
As far as I know I took the whole drain plug out, I didn't see a screw in the allen head plug. Is there something else in there that I should know about, didn't see anything else in the manual other than what I did. I'll have another look tonight when I get home.
Shaun
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Marsh White on July 29, 2009, 06:30:47 PM
Shaun,

It sounds to me like you have confused the drain plug with something else.  The main oil drain plug is on the bottom of the oil pan, dead center and towards the front wheel.  It is a big bolt head...it is not an Allen.  Maybe you took out one of the oil galley plugs on the side of the engine instead? 
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Harvy on July 29, 2009, 06:32:51 PM
17mm socket from memory.

Harvy
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: SlowOldGuy on July 29, 2009, 06:42:16 PM
You might want to invest in a manual and do a little reading before you go much further.

DavidR.
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: andyb on July 30, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
You've pulled one of the oil galley plugs I'd wager. You'll know when you get the drainplug out.  Look very carefully at what you're doing, it's in the middle of the oil pan just as you'd expect it to be. 


Don't destroy the galley plug when you put it back in, easily done.
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Shaun on July 30, 2009, 01:41:33 PM
I may have mixed the two up, the plug I removed is centered, (right above the exhaust collector) faces the right side of the bike but more to the rear tire though. So yeah I will reread my manual again and make sure I have correctly identified the part and its location. As for replacing the plug with out damaging it, it went back in just fine, thanks for the caution note.
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: mst3kguy on July 30, 2009, 09:06:41 PM
look for the largish bolt with the phillips head in the middle of it.  but use a socket, not a screwdriver.  and don't mess with the oil drain screw on your stock oil filter housing, you'll strip that in no time.  just remove the whole thing using another socket, and remember the order of the parts inside (filter, spring, and washer).   i haven't had one on in years, maybe someone can chime in hear and state the order of the aforementioned parts inside the oil filter housing.
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Yamifj1200 on July 30, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
When removing the filter remember to remove the thin washer from the gasket on the old filter, or you will be digging in the trash to get it back... DAMHIKT

Eric M
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Ratchet_72 on July 31, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 30, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
When removing the filter remember to remove the thin washer from the gasket on the old filter, or you will be digging in the trash to get it back... DAMHIKT

Eric M

When removing the filter remember to.......throw it in the F@#$ trash.  Got a RPM Spin On Oil Filter Adapter (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=spinonfilteradapter) from Randy and its one of the best convenience mods I've done to my FJs.

Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Yamifj1200 on July 31, 2009, 04:51:58 PM
Quote from: Ratchet_72 on July 31, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 30, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
When removing the filter remember to remove the thin washer from the gasket on the old filter, or you will be digging in the trash to get it back... DAMHIKT

Eric M

When removing the filter remember to.......throw it in the F@#$ trash.  Got a spin on oil filter adapter from Randy and its one of the best convenience mods I've done to my FJs.

Yep me too, much better than the stock unit..... and now I dont have to dig in the trash to get that damn washer back.......lol

Eric M
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Bigfoot on August 05, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
Crap. Just changed my oil and filter. No washer in there, just the spring. So how bad is that? It was obviously running without it, probably for quite some time.
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Bob on August 05, 2009, 06:49:24 AM
I ran without the oil filter washer for years (ignorance) without a problem. 
Now I use the spin-on adapter.

Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Bigfoot on August 05, 2009, 07:40:29 AM
Anyone know the dimensions for the washer? Is the size that critical or will one that is close enough work?
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: rvnmaniac on August 05, 2009, 11:55:15 AM

OIL FILTER WASHER-washer specs: .020 thick/ .835 ID/ 1.26 OD
   metric (approx)= .5 mm/ 21mm/ 32mm
   7/8 ID x 1 1/8 OD will fit
Title: Re: Oil not draining
Post by: Bigfoot on August 05, 2009, 01:17:42 PM
Thank you for the specs on the washer.