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Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 10, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: Mike Ramos on March 10, 2012, 01:15:33 AM
"....Bear in mind that I carry 11 gallons of fuel, thus there is approximately a 70 pound difference between full tanks and reserve by the time I stop for fuel......." 
11 gallons of fuel?
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Mike Ramos on March 10, 2012, 11:08:01 AM
Top of the morning Pat,
Yes, that is correct...
Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: FJmonkey on March 10, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
Quote from: Mike Ramos on March 10, 2012, 11:08:01 AM
Top of the morning Pat,
Yes, that is correct...
Mike Ramos.
Tank bag with a fuel bladder maybe?
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: 1tinindian on March 10, 2012, 01:45:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 10, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: Mike Ramos on March 10, 2012, 01:15:33 AM
"....Bear in mind that I carry 11 gallons of fuel, thus there is approximately a 70 pound difference between full tanks and reserve by the time I stop for fuel......." 
11 gallons of fuel?

Do tell Mike, I'm sure alot of us would like to know how it's done!

Leon
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: E Double on March 10, 2012, 06:52:22 PM
Do you use something like this?
(http://www.tourtank.com/files/new10by.jpg)

This one is kinda cool;
(http://smith898.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/My-bikes/i512185sn01/61125093_MWvzb-O.jpg)
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Mike Ramos on March 11, 2012, 12:56:48 AM
Good evening gentlemen,
No, nothing so exotic; I have a set of Coretech soft saddlebags with a matching tail bag.
I made a wooden mock-up of a tank that fit within the tail pack and then had a metal tank made to match. I chose aluminum, not as much for the savings in weight as no sparks in case of a fall. I also specified a lot of internal baffling to eliminate sloshing.
The tank is in the tail pack which is buckled to the saddlebags, along with flat bungee cords to make it extra secure.
I have an electric two way fuel valve located near the fuel pump (a fuel pump from RPM no less). The switch for the valve is located next to the stock reserve switch.
In addition I have a redundant in-line electric fuel valve to insure positive fuel shutoff.
The fuel line itself has a dry disconnect so it is easy & quick to mount and dismount.
Ride safely,
Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Grey runner on March 11, 2012, 04:55:39 AM
So assuming that you get about 40 mpg does that mean you only stop every 400 miles? Thats very impressive  :flag_of_truce:
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 11, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
Impressive Mike. I've heard folks doing these aux. fuel tanks for the Iron Butt events, do you participate?

Let's see, I have a Corbin seat, yep that's good for 400 miles, Vibranators and foam grips, yep good there, Penske rear shock dialed to soft, yep, that's good, heated gear, good there, a large Camelback full of ice and water, check, ........

... now the only thing I would need is one of those condom thingies with a hose that I run down my pant leg so I can pee.....

No way my 59 year old bladder can last 400 miles....

The furthest I've ever made on my FJ is 860 miles in 17 hours. Wowzer, was I sore the next day.
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: FJ Flyer on March 11, 2012, 03:53:44 PM
11 gals is the limit for Iron Butt sanctioned rallies.  Coincidence or rally bound?
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: FJmonkey on March 11, 2012, 09:20:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 11, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
... now the only thing I would need is one of those condom thingies with a hose that I run down my pant leg so I can pee.....
a Pilot's buddy.
Fixed it for you Pat. My brother in the Air Force mentioned them. The military pilots stay aloft way longer then I can hold back either end.
Title: Re: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: 1tinindian on March 11, 2012, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 11, 2012, 09:20:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 11, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
... now the only thing I would need is one of those condom thingies with a hose that I run down my pant leg so I can pee.....
a Pilot's buddy.
Fixed it for you Pat. My brother in the Air Force mentioned them. The military pilots stay aloft way longer then I can hold back either end.

When I was in the USAF, they were referred to as , "relief tubes".
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: moonrunnah on March 12, 2012, 07:01:50 AM
my buddy got out a year ago he said they call them piddle pads

i guess it all refers the same thing pissing while riding  :good2:
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Mike Ramos on March 13, 2012, 12:02:32 PM
Fellows,
No, no type of competition, Iron Butt or otherwise.
And I stop when needed, I have never been so much in a hurry to get from Point A to B.
The auxiliary fuel tank size was determined by the tail pack size.
As I said, quite basic.
Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: Mike Ramos on March 13, 2012, 12:19:27 PM
P.S. I got sidetracked...
The only reason for mentioning the fuel was that the front fork valves compensated quite well for the weight change between full & empty tanks.
I am short on time at this moment but I will expand on my experience with that modification at a future date, in a few days.
Regards,
Mike Ramos.
Title: Re: Additional fuel capacity
Post by: TheRadBaron on March 14, 2012, 08:50:24 PM
Speaking of military aircraft "pee packs", when I was an enlisted guy in the Marines a few years ago we found that you could tell a lot about a pilot by what he did with his used pack after his sortie.  The decent pilots would take theirs with them and dispose of it, while the arrogant jerk "I'm and officer and a gentleman" pilots would just leave it in the cockpit for us lowly, enlisted knuckledraggers to deal with.  Luckily I was a weapons tech and it was the ejection seat mechs that got that task. 
My buddy was a seat mech, plus his NCOIC was in charge of the random urinalysis program.  He got to deal with used pee packs all the time and be the "witness" for the urinalysis whenever it was going on.  It was called "meat gazing".
Sorry, I know it's off topic.  Funny story, though.