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Title: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: ddlewis on July 19, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Eric/Frank/Calvin.  This is the dude I met on the supermoto yesterday in Cumberland I told you about.  He was videoing himself chasing Mickey when he bit it and posted it on advrider last night.  see 2:58 into the video.  Looks like he just freaked out and fixated onto the ditch went straight in.  Can you tell where it was?  Not "VFR corner".  Looks like it may have been just before the Calvins place.

Lucky he was ok..

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10386340&postcount=2883 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10386340&postcount=2883)

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Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: mst3kguy on July 19, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
looks like he decided to brake in the turn instead of before the turn.  ( :  i can see this happening to me on any given ride.  just that split second of indecision, and it's over before you know it.
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: racerman_27410 on July 19, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
thats way down the hill from Calvin's  right when the road first gets tight n twisty..... with all the sweepers right before you get there i can see someone getting caught out on their corner entry speed and freakin a bit..this guy just plain ol target fixated....
......... rule number one is to look where you really want the bike to go.... stare at that ditch long enough and i'll bank money you're gonna hit it.

......looked like a nice soft landing though.    :rofl:

Good to see you again Danny,

Frank
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: the fan on July 19, 2009, 06:25:27 PM
Looks like a combination of fixation and newbie to me. Watch his front fender. He is steering into every corner, not countersteering. On any supermoto I have ridden you have very little control over the front end unless you countersteering, and evn a little brake will stand you right up.

But what do I know...:bye2:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/smoto/3649753156_8dd5cee083_o2.jpg)
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: andyb on July 19, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
He chickened out and ran it off the road, by the looks of it.


Judging by how often he was hitting the centerline and weaving, I'd imagine that his control of the machine isn't great in the first place though... Just was riding over his head.
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: ddlewis on July 19, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: andyb on July 19, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
He chickened out and ran it off the road, by the looks of it.
Judging by how often he was hitting the centerline and weaving, I'd imagine that his control of the machine isn't great in the first place though... Just was riding over his head.

Never met the SM guy before but I suspect that's the case.  Young guy trying to keep up with the old guy on the red vstrom.  (whom I do know and that he rides that road nearly every weekend and goes pretty damn fast)
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: ddlewis on July 19, 2009, 09:16:55 PM
Quote from: racerman_27410 on July 19, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
thats way down the hill from Calvin's  right when the road first gets tight n twisty..... with all the sweepers right before you get there i can see someone getting caught out on their corner entry speed and freakin a bit..this guy just plain ol target fixated....
......... rule number one is to look where you really want the bike to go.... stare at that ditch long enough and i'll bank money you're gonna hit it.

......looked like a nice soft landing though.    :rofl:

Good to see you again Danny,

Frank

Always good to see you too Frank!   We'll have to do it again in the fall and actually bring the dirt bikes :)

Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: Marsh White on July 20, 2009, 12:20:37 AM
Quote from: the fan on July 19, 2009, 06:25:27 PM

But what do I know...:bye2:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/smoto/3649753156_8dd5cee083_o2.jpg)

Bill, sir, I am humbled.  Awesome pic!  I can't wait to ride with you again!  (not that I could keep up...but I would have fun trying!...unless of course, you keep on that slow ass 600 again ;)

So like...I know you have been having fun with track days and stuff...but seriously...
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: mst3kguy on July 20, 2009, 06:11:59 AM
marsh, that's not bill, that's his stunt double.  that helmet is seriously slimming, it makes bill look like a svelte 240.  ( :
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: racerman_27410 on July 20, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
i wish i could get my knee down......however i would have to grind my boots and ride off the edge of the tires for that to happen.... damn short legs!   :dash1:


i watched the vid again and Bill is right the guy doesnt know how to countersteer.


Kookaloo!

Frank
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: the fan on July 20, 2009, 01:19:27 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on July 20, 2009, 12:20:37 AM

Bill, sir, I am humbled.  Awesome pic!  I can't wait to ride with you again!  (not that I could keep up...but I would have fun trying!...unless of course, you keep on that slow ass 600 again ;)

So like...I know you have been having fun with track days and stuff...but seriously...

Same old 600 as before... I will try to keep up.

Here are a few more from the track(s).
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/t10b.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/DeadBear4.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/t10i.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/smoto/IMG_7344.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/smoto/3649734940_53f260e8f5_o.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/bpro/smoto/IMG_7391.jpg)

I am doing some control riding at a track day at Putnam Park the weekend after the fall rally. How long is your trip?

Frankie, talk to me at the rally. the knee is closer to the ground than you think....
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: ddlewis on July 20, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: mst3kguy on July 20, 2009, 06:11:59 AM
marsh, that's not bill, that's his stunt double.  that helmet is seriously slimming, it makes bill look like a svelte 240.  ( :

I was just noticing there seems to be some slack in that leather suit.  Did Bill join the Jenny Craig program?
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: the fan on July 20, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
Objects in the monitor may be larger than they seem...

I joined the cool kids in the "no surgar for me!" club a few months back. but the new leathers fit. Yea me!

now I just need to get one of my bikes back in one piece again.
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on July 20, 2009, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: mst3kguy on July 20, 2009, 06:11:59 AM
marsh, that's not bill, that's his stunt double.  that helmet is seriously slimming, it makes bill look like a svelte 240.  ( :

I was just noticing there seems to be some slack in that leather suit.  Did Bill join the Jenny Craig program?


Dan,
It must be his new jacket, all color block and stuff spose to make ya look svelte....lol

  Eric M


ps good to be hangin out by the fire saturday evening....

Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: ddlewis on July 20, 2009, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
ps good to be hangin out by the fire saturday evening....

Yeah man, good time.  I tried to describe the view from the apple tree to my wife, but you'd have to be Shakespeare to do that justice.  Don't think I've ever seen stars like that in my life.

Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on July 20, 2009, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
ps good to be hangin out by the fire saturday evening....

Yeah man, good time.  I tried to describe the view from the apple tree to my wife, but you'd have to be Shakespeare to do that justice.  Don't think I've ever seen stars like that in my life.




Yep ya dont get to see them like that around town do you???

Eric M
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: racerman_27410 on July 20, 2009, 09:39:49 PM

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Yeah man, good time.  I tried to describe the view from the apple tree to my wife, but you'd have to be Shakespeare to do that justice.  Don't think I've ever seen stars like that in my life.


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Yup, very tough to describe that view of the night sky.......its simply amazing.


Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: FJ Flyer on July 21, 2009, 06:23:46 AM
Quote from: the fan on July 20, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
Objects in the monitor may be larger than they seem...

I joined the cool kids in the "no surgar for me!" club a few months back. but the new leathers fit. Yea me!

now I just need to get one of my bikes back in one piece again.

Damn, Bill.  I'm impressed!  Don't think I have the willpower go that far. 
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: the fan on July 21, 2009, 09:36:31 AM
Will power has nuthin to do with it. TGFHI (thank god for health insurance)
Title: Re: Supermoto crash video on 56 near Calvins
Post by: FJ Flyer on July 22, 2009, 05:59:30 AM
Quote from: the fan on July 21, 2009, 09:36:31 AM
Will power has nuthin to do with it. TGFHI (thank god for health insurance)

Hope it didn't involve a trip in the meat wagon to the ER!