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Title: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
I currently have a K&N air filter in the stock airbox.  Since its such a royal pain in da ass to remove/reinstall the stock airbox on my '86, I was considering purchasing the individual cone type K&N filters, part RC-2814.
 
Has anyone here used the (4) individual filters with decent results? Where is a good place to buy from and at a good price? 

Does removing the airbox mean i need to modify anything else? This bike is NOT a California model. I currently have a jet kit and V&H exhaust.

Thanks

Ozz
(Glen)
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: Marsh White on July 18, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
The general consensus is to get the Uni Dual Pod foam air filters over the K&Ns.  The Uni's stay on better and filter better than the K&Ns.  That said, I have 4 individual K&N filters on my 89 and they work for me - after buying larger hose clamps and making some rubber/zip tie things on the frame rails and REALLY learning through trial and error over the years how to get them to stay on....and learning the critical screw tension of the hose clamps and not overtightening them....etc.  (so...in case I didn't get the point across...the K&Ns have a tendency to fall off....A LOT)

So yeah, get the Uni's...you will not be disappointed.  Randy from RPM sells them...his contact info is here:
http://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=69.0 (http://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=69.0)
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: MyFirstNameIsPaul on July 18, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
Definitely get the Uni dual pods.

You should rejet the carbs whatever air filter you get because the bike is going to breath a lot more.  I recommend getting a Factory Pro jet kit instead of Dynojet.  Dynojet has always been great at marketing, but really not that great at R&D

http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prody08.html (http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prody08.html)
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:29:37 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. 

Ozz
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: MyFirstNameIsPaul on July 18, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
Definitely get the Uni dual pods.

You should rejet the carbs whatever air filter you get because the bike is going to breath a lot more.  I recommend getting a Factory Pro jet kit instead of Dynojet.  Dynojet has always been great at marketing, but really not that great at R&D

http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prody08.html (http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/prody08.html)
Yeah thanks.  Bike already has the jet kit and a k&n.  I just simply want to get rid of the stock air box.
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: Mark Olson on July 18, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
Glen,

I run the k/n singles on my 86 fj and I can second what Marsh said.
If you do get them , the two inside are installed in the normal position and the outboard filters must be turned  upside down or they  fall off.
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on July 18, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
The general consensus is to get the Uni Dual Pod foam air filters over the K&Ns.  The Uni's stay on better and filter better than the K&Ns.  That said, I have 4 individual K&N filters on my 89 and they work for me - after buying larger hose clamps and making some rubber/zip tie things on the frame rails and REALLY learning through trial and error over the years how to get them to stay on....and learning the critical screw tension of the hose clamps and not overtightening them....etc.  (so...in case I didn't get the point across...the K&Ns have a tendency to fall off....A LOT)

So yeah, get the Uni's...you will not be disappointed.  Randy from RPM sells them...his contact info is here:
http://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=69.0 (http://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=69.0)
Hi Marsh,

Do you know what size Pod an '86 FJ would need? Looks like there are different diameter sizes at the clamping area from 1" to 2-1/2" and lengths are 3" to 6" long.  There are also straight connectors and angled connectors.  Help please lol

I found them pretty reasonably priced on a website that am going to order tires from, i would get free shipping on any order over $75.  

Thanks for your help, much appreciated!

Ozz
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on July 18, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
Glen,

I run the k/n singles on my 86 fj and I can second what Marsh said.
If you do get them , the two inside are installed in the normal position and the outboard filters must be turned  upside down or they  fall off.

Thanks Mark, going to go with the Pods since they seem like less headache to deal with.

Off topic, did you get a look see at the inside of the tank yet?  Would like to get the FJ tearing the road up again soon.

Glen
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: Mark Olson on July 18, 2009, 01:11:13 PM
Glen, Yes I did.

the inside of the tank is primo clean and no signs of rust, however after I washed  it yesterday  I noticed a small dent on the left side about where the left side bar end would hit if turned that far. not a big dent and the paint is  bright and shiny on the tank with some scratches near the seat like from a belt buckle. probably wax out the scratches and use the billie mays dent poper deal and it will be 9 out of 10.   

I keep the bikes at a different location from where I live so that is why  it's taking so  long to  get pics , I will be over there today with fresh batteries in the pos digital camera.
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: Marsh White on July 18, 2009, 01:30:07 PM
Quote from: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Hi Marsh,
Do you know what size Pod an '86 FJ would need? Looks like there are different diameter sizes at the clamping area from 1" to 2-1/2" and lengths are 3" to 6" long.  There are also straight connectors and angled connectors.  Help please lol
Ozz

The Uni Dual Pod part number is DP3229.  You will need two of them.

If you can't find this specific one, Randy has good prices as well and only charges actual shipping costs.

------Update------
Here is the link to the Uni catalog:
http://www.unifilter.com/online%20catalog/UNICAT09.PDF (http://www.unifilter.com/online%20catalog/UNICAT09.PDF)

The filter is on Page 10.  Here are the specs:
Inner Diamater: 2 1/4"
Outer Diameter: 3 1/2" X 6 1/4"
Length: 3 1/2"
3 1/8" Carb Centers
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: MyFirstNameIsPaul on July 20, 2009, 12:39:07 PM
Quote from: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 12:39:56 PM
Yeah thanks.  Bike already has the jet kit and a k&n.  I just simply want to get rid of the stock air box.

But your current jet setup is for a stock airbox, so when you change to the filters, you're going to find it inadequate.  I put in the largest jets that came with my Dynojet kit and they were not large enough down low and up high, making the bike run too lean.  The bike was pretty much unusable below 2500 RPM, which really shouldn't be the case for a such a big bike.
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: racerrad8 on July 20, 2009, 12:59:05 PM
Glen,
       Shoot me an email and I will get them out to you. I have plenty in stock.

Randy - RPM
randy@rpmracingca.com
Title: Re: K&N Cone Type Air Filter
Post by: pdxfj on July 20, 2009, 01:00:53 PM
For those who have the K&N pods, Brian Hunt used a old radiator hose to move the location of the two outside filters away from the carbs so they wouldn't fall off.

Just a small tip... 


Quote from: ozzstar on July 18, 2009, 10:12:55 AM
I currently have a K&N air filter in the stock airbox.  Since its such a royal pain in da ass to remove/reinstall the stock airbox on my '86, I was considering purchasing the individual cone type K&N filters, part RC-2814.
 
Has anyone here used the (4) individual filters with decent results? Where is a good place to buy from and at a good price? 

Does removing the airbox mean i need to modify anything else? This bike is NOT a California model. I currently have a jet kit and V&H exhaust.

Thanks

Ozz
(Glen)