FJowners.com

General Category => Maintenance => Topic started by: markmartin on February 12, 2012, 02:07:08 PM

Title: Center Stand Spring
Post by: markmartin on February 12, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
Is there a method to getting the center stand spring off and then back on, other than a pair of vise grips and brute strength? 
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: FJ111200 on February 12, 2012, 02:26:35 PM
Unbolt the centrestand first.
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: fj11.5 on February 12, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
Maybe take the stand off, put the spring on and bolt the stand back. Up (popcorn)
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: markmartin on February 12, 2012, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on February 12, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
Maybe take the stand off, put the spring on and bolt the stand back. Up (popcorn)

thanks
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: bigbore2 on February 12, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
Or take a piece of wire and use it as a tool to remove spring.  Maybe 10-12 inches long, put one end thru spring end/hook part, thread thru 1/2 way, then double it over on itself. Grab both pieces of wire and use as a handle and pull hook part of spring off.  I use this for motocross springs on the exhaust flange.  Cheap and works well.  I was doing a brake job on my van years ago and was using a pliers to pull off the springs and the pliers slipped off the spring and I smacked myself in the forehead so hard I almost knocked myself out.
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: markmartin on February 12, 2012, 04:50:21 PM
Thanks bigbore2, I like that idea.  I'm done for today, but will try that sometime this week.
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: axiom-r on February 12, 2012, 04:58:34 PM
I usually take a long skinny screw driver and rest the flat end on (or on top of) one of the frame rails crossing under the bottom of the bike, then position the shaft to get under the spring end and lever it up to slip it off the lug.  I should say that I use the same screw driver for this task every time, it is a Craftsman and has a square shaft which I think helps. It takes a few tries and several attempts at the positioning but I have not found a way that works better for me.  Many bloody knuckles on center stand springs over the years but I now have a good record for removing them with no harm to me or the bike. PITA though....

I think you will find it very difficult to remount the center stand with the spring already attached at both ends. I bolt the stand on and put the bike up on it to hold it still. With the spring on the stand I then stretch the spring back up onto the frame lug using the skinny screwdriver. 

tim

Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
I bead blasted my header pipes, silencer, and exhaust clamp rings. Primed, painted and oven cured with rust-oleum, yes I said Rust-oleum, HIGH HEAT primer and flat black paint. Resists heat up to 2000F, says so on the can.

Ordered my chin from Motörhead.com, gunslinger seat from Corbin.com and new LED tail light from RPM.com, and varies asundries from Ronareys.com. Oh ya, horded 2 sets of stock 86 muffler from Fjer's Chir and Steve, thank guys.

Stay tuned  (popcorn)
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: rktmanfj on February 12, 2012, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: bigbore2 on February 12, 2012, 03:36:12 PMI was doing a brake job on my van years ago and was using a pliers to pull off the springs and the pliers slipped off the spring and I smacked myself in the forehead so hard I almost knocked myself out.

BTDT, on my old Camaro.  It only takes once to go out and get the proper tool...      :empathy2:
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
I bead blasted my header pipes, silencer, and exhaust clamp rings. Primed, painted and oven cured with rust-oleum, yes I said Rust-oleum, HIGH HEAT primer and flat black paint. Resists heat up to 2000F, says so on the can.

Ordered my chin from Motörhead.com, gunslinger seat from Corbin.com and new LED tail light from RPM.com, and varies asundries from Ronareys.com. Oh ya, horded 2 sets of stock 86 muffler from Fjer's Chir and Steve, thank guys.

Stay tuned  (popcorn)

Dang, wrong forum, sorry :)
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: X-Ray on February 13, 2012, 03:09:13 AM
 :biggrin: I kept reading looking for the bit where you might have chromed your centre stand springs or something,
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: oz.fj on February 13, 2012, 06:10:57 AM
Quote from: X-Ray on February 13, 2012, 03:09:13 AM
:biggrin: I kept reading looking for the bit where you might have chromed your centre stand springs or something,

:rofl2: :rofl2:
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: andyb on February 13, 2012, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: rktmanfj on February 12, 2012, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: bigbore2 on February 12, 2012, 03:36:12 PMI was doing a brake job on my van years ago and was using a pliers to pull off the springs and the pliers slipped off the spring and I smacked myself in the forehead so hard I almost knocked myself out.

BTDT, on my old Camaro.  It only takes once to go out and get the proper tool...      :empathy2:

+1

The tool isn't expensive, and it's handy.  Why not make things easier on yourself?
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: axiom-r on February 13, 2012, 09:33:51 AM
Is there a spring compression/spreader tool small enough for a center stand springs?    Link would be good!

:good:
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on February 13, 2012, 10:26:48 AM

Really guys!

With the bike on the side stand, and the center stand retracted, just undo the pivot bolts for the center stand, hook the spring to the appropriate loops, and put the bolts back in. No pulling of the spring necessary. There's enough play in the spring with the center stand in the retracted position to perform this action seamlessly.

No drama required!

Really!

Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: FJ111200 on February 13, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on February 13, 2012, 10:26:48 AM


No drama required!

Really!



Like i said, but some people have to go round the long way.  Can't be done unless there's a long way  :rofl:
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: SlowOldGuy on February 13, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
To remove the spring, put the bike on the centerstand to extend the spring.  Jam a bunch on change (pennies, nickles, dimes, quarters) in the spring gaps.  When you retract the stand, it will fall off. 

To install a spring, clamp it in a vice, grap the end with Vice Grips (to avoid smashing yourself in the forehead), bend the spring back and forth to open up gaps, shim the gaps with change until it's long enough to install.

Pretty sure I got that trick from Norske.

DavidR.
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on February 13, 2012, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on February 13, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
...Jam a bunch on change (pennies, nickles, dimes, quarters) in the spring gaps...

Who has spare change these days?

Actually, that's pretty good advice, too. I'll log this in my "Book O' Trix".

Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: FJmonkey on February 13, 2012, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on February 13, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
To remove the spring, put the bike on the centerstand to extend the spring.  Jam a bunch on change (pennies, nickles, dimes, quarters) in the spring gaps.  When you retract the stand, it will fall off. 

To install a spring, clamp it in a vice, grap the end with Vice Grips (to avoid smashing yourself in the forehead), bend the spring back and forth to open up gaps, shim the gaps with change until it's long enough to install.

Pretty sure I got that trick from Norske.

DavidR.
Shim both sides of the spring equally or the shape will resemble a banana.
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: markmartin on February 14, 2012, 07:40:00 PM
Well I tried pulling the spring off using the wire trick and that seems to work pretty well to take the spring off , however now I need the center stand again for some time so removing it will come later.  I think I'll use the spare change method that DavidR suggested when I'm ready.  Thanks to the ideas--I'm just trying to avoid the aforementioned smashed fingers and bloody knuckles.   I realize it's not the most technical mechanical procedure.

Steve in Florida, You must have a longer center stand spring than I do, because there is still quite a bit of tension on mine even with the stand up.  There'd be no sliding the bolts back in without prying and frigging around--which I'm not above doing, but trying to avoid.  Or maybe my spring is shorter because it's about 15* F in my garage.  Perhaps I'm affected by 'shrinkage'?  Maybe it's just genetic.  :sarcastic:

Later,

Mark
Title: Re: Center Stand Spring
Post by: Flying Scotsman on February 14, 2012, 08:50:12 PM
Both my bikes and the one I parted out didn't need any spring puller  :yahoo: