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Title: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on January 29, 2012, 03:09:39 PM
I started on getting the donor engine ready for my 86 FJ -- the engine was removed yesterday from the donor bike -- and now needs clean up and paint in preparation for the transplant.  I found the best way to get the engine out of the frame once disconnected is to lift the frame away as opposed to dropping the engine out.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/596_29_01_12_3_05_27.jpeg)

And now the hard work begins
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on January 29, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Wow, that engine sure looks neglected. Wonder what it looks like on the inside. Do you have plans of opening up the valve covers or bottom covers to see what it looks like in there?

Pat said earlier (and I may be wrong) to use a heat resistant satin black to match the original engine color. There are parts you could take off now and polish/paint with out much effort vs after it's all put back on the bike.

Dude, nice work so far. Can't wait to see the end result.

CraigO
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on January 29, 2012, 09:46:10 PM
I thought about taking some things off --- just not really sure yet.  I was impressed with how it ran this week so I think it will be ok.  The valve covers will probably come off -- as they will be easier to blast if I go with that too.... and take a quick peek at the same time.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 02, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
Cleaned up the motor -- just a bit more cleaning around the front sprocket and it will be ready for paint.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 07, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Motor painted -- more or less ready to install -- I am having difficulty getting the front sprocket off ...any ideas

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Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: Flying Scotsman on February 07, 2012, 11:27:22 PM
Air impact driver or hand held impact will get the sprocket off.
Might be overkill though.
Breaker bar and 36mm socket  worked for me.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: ribbert on February 07, 2012, 11:29:12 PM

Probably easiest to wait until it's in the frame with the chain on and use the back brake to hold it.
Noel
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on February 08, 2012, 07:15:46 AM
Nice job Steve,  :good:

Can't wait to see what it looks like once the masking tape comes off.

Do you have the motor out of your other bike yet, or is that something you still need to do?

CraigO
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 10, 2012, 07:11:12 PM
thanks for the replies on the front sprocket -- I could not get it off with the tools I had but will go ahead with the suggestions.   The motor is in the good bike now... installed carbs ..airbox - cables - Tomorrow will be the exhaust and just have the clutch and rear tire to put on but I have to get the gaskets I ordered first.

If all goes well it should be running Saturday morning.  I will replace the sprocket later if necessary. 



Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 11, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
Well, I went gang-busters on the bike this week - Thurs -Friday and Saturday.... and transplant runs great. Loads of power like a FJ should.  It feels stronger than the 90 version but that could be the gearing as well.  

A few more finishing touches ... chin fairing ... general cleaning and she will be complete.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_11_02_12_10_05_25.jpeg)

My first FJ rides once more ...
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: racerman_27410 on February 11, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
Well all right !  :good2:


KOokaloo!
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: FJmonkey on February 11, 2012, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: moparman70 on February 11, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
Well, I went gang-busters on the bike this week - Thurs -Friday and Saturday.... and transplant runs great. Loads of power like a FJ should.  It feels stronger than the 90 version but that could be the gearing as well.  

A few more finishing touches ... chin fairing ... general cleaning and she will be complete.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_11_02_12_10_05_25.jpeg)

My first FJ rides once more ...

Most excellent dude!!! Another Red and White on the road.....kudos....
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: simi_ed on February 12, 2012, 03:19:22 AM
 :drinks:  Looks good, Steve.  Still looks like an Ambulance, though ...A fast Ambulance :rofl2:
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on February 12, 2012, 09:59:31 AM
Great Job, Steve,

Too bad it's gonna rain these next few days. Highs in the mountains is in the mid 40s with even a chance of snow on the very tops of Palomar and Laguna.

Can't wait for nice weather again. I am jonesing for a good ride.

CraigO
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: terryk on February 12, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
Nice, congrats, lets ride.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 12, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
Some better pics -- yes Craig, I wish it was better weather so the long ride will have to wait.  Terry ...sounds good and can't wait to test out with an official ride

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_12_02_12_5_02_28.jpeg)

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_12_02_12_5_03_06.jpeg)
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
I am right behind you. Looks great :good2:
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on February 12, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
+1 Steve, she sure is a beauty. Good hard work has brought your 1st love back to life. You feeling a little like Frankenstein?  :lol: No really, great job!!!

Can't wait for the weather to brighten up.

Cya,

CraigO
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on February 12, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
I am right behind you. Looks great :good2:

Dave,

You one of us SoCal types? If so, where you at?

Craig O.

Never mind, I see you are in DEEP SNOW up in Colorado. Best to enjoy the skiing for now...
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: Mike 86 in San Dimas on February 12, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
Very nice Steve! Next weekend??
Mike
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: FJdave1200 on February 12, 2012, 05:36:39 PM
Season pass at cooper,)
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 12, 2012, 11:27:37 PM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on February 12, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
Very nice Steve! Next weekend??
Mike

I want too but I will be out of town ..in Laughlin. ( but will be taking an FJ ) Its a Bachelor party.  If plans change I will let you know but I was thinking of doing a San Diego Ride  on Feb 25 if you are interested... We can get Craig and Terry .... 4 red and whites to 1 bluegray.

stevecc






















Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: craigo on February 14, 2012, 08:53:05 AM
Steve,

Just noticed that you still have the OEM rubber brake lines up front. I have a rear SS line if you need one, but I would HIGHLY recommend changing out those front ones.

Let me know about the rear line. IM or email me and I'll send it to you.

CraigO
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: terryk on February 14, 2012, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: craigo on February 14, 2012, 08:53:05 AM
Steve,

Just noticed that you still have the OEM rubber brake lines up front. I have a rear SS line if you need one, but I would HIGHLY recommend changing out those front ones.

Let me know about the rear line. IM or email me and I'll send it to you.

CraigO

Craigo is correct, dump the rubber. I just put on Spiegler liunes all around. My front hose cracked wide open and I lost my front brakes 18 miles from home and the far side of Deluz Canyon.

Steve, I will call you and bring the old bike by so you can admire my SS brake line awsomeness.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 14, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
Thanks Craig - you have been PM'd

I do plan on upgraded to braided front lines and some other things on the 86.

We will all have to get together for a ride soon.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: terryk on February 14, 2012, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: moparman70 on February 14, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
Thanks Craig - you have been PM'd

I do plan on upgraded to braided front lines and some other things on the 86.

We will all have to get together for a ride soon.

Just rode home on the braided lines. Wow, substantial change, better feel, better braking.
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 19, 2012, 06:11:23 PM
I took the Canadian FJ out yesterday ( did not go to Laughlin) and it ran flawlessly.  Very pleased with the power and it could be just my imagination but this motor pulls better than the 90 and better than what I remember my old motor did in the 86.  It was doing power wheelies ( just the little ones where the front comes up just enough to float the wheel) in by just cracking the throttle in first.  I even felt a little wheel float shifting into second hard so I think I can put the good crankcase covers on...no clutch work at this time needed. 

The run was about 225kms with a top speed of 200kph -- around 125mph -- I can still smell the engine paint every time I shut it down.  It was a cool day yesterday so I doubt the engine has got as toastie as it can.

Today I am spending the time cleaning up the crankcase covers -- yes polish.  The last step to make it look normal.

stevecc
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: paulfj03 on February 19, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Quote from: moparman70 on February 12, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
Some better pics -- yes Craig, I wish it was better weather so the long ride will have to wait.  Terry ...sounds good and can't wait to test out with an official ride

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_12_02_12_5_02_28.jpeg)

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/596_12_02_12_5_03_06.jpeg)

Nice work Steve!!!!!!




Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 19, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Paul, thanks and I see you are from Ontario as well.... this is where my 86 grew up til I moved here in 92.  My 86 has seen a lot of Ontario... PA .. Blue Ridge.. Upper New York... Montreal

And of course the regular runs to Niagara Falls...

stevec
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: paulfj03 on February 19, 2012, 08:12:03 PM
Quote from: moparman70 on February 19, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Paul, thanks and I see you are from Ontario as well.... this is where my 86 grew up til I moved here in 92.  My 86 has seen a lot of Ontario... PA .. Blue Ridge.. Upper New York... Montreal

And of course the regular runs to Niagara Falls...

stevec

Hey,  :hi: You've been up in the Great White North... :drinks:  I'm in the Napanee area and there is not alot of 'white' around this year!  This is the first winter I did some late xmas shopping on the FJ! There are still lots of decent riding days, too.

Are you the original owner of that 86?  Looks like you didnt let it sit around...... Good on ya for keeping it alive and ready!




Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: Derek Young on February 19, 2012, 10:25:10 PM
She's looking good Steve!  Maybe Pat can hook you up with some simichrome.  Be careful though... its hard to stop the polishing once you start...

Derek
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 19, 2012, 10:37:52 PM
" Hey,  :hi: You've been up in the Great White North... :drinks:  I'm in the Napanee area and there is not alot of 'white' around this year!  This is the first winter I did some late xmas shopping on the FJ! There are still lots of decent riding days, too.

Are you the original owner of that 86?  Looks like you didnt let it sit around...... Good on ya for keeping it alive and ready! "
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No but more or less yes as I bought it with 1000kms on it in 87;  And your right it hasn't sat around.  I put most of my Kms on it in the first five years...maybe around 80k.  The bike has 120kms on it ... the donor motor has about 20k miles to start so my KMs match in number at least to where the motors at.

its been down as far as Virginia - Blue Ridge Pky.  PA a few times.  A trip to California to do Hwy 1 from T-O prior to moving down here ... all good times




Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 20, 2012, 12:31:45 AM
Good job Steven. The FJ gods are smiling at ya... My bike should be ready to run the first week of March, so let's ride then. Pat
Title: Re: Removed Motor
Post by: moparman70 on February 20, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 20, 2012, 12:31:45 AM
Good job Steven. The FJ gods are smiling at ya... My bike should be ready to run the first week of March, so let's ride then. Pat

I will look forward to it... we could probably do the roads in your neck of the woods as we have just been to the LA ones and this week are the San Diego tarmacs.   So start thinking of a route ...lets plan it when you are ready.