Personally I think drifting is lame, but I'd like to get some time on this road:
Motorcycle vs. Car Drift Battle 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te0V71sGoxA#ws)
DavidR.
That's Maryhill Loop Road: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&ll=45.717447,-120.783691&spn=0.048121,0.132093&sll=45.723529,-120.80133&sspn=0.012029,0.033023&geocode=FcqBuQIdo9HM-A%3BFfa2uQIdZKTM-A&vpsrc=6&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=16&t=h&z=14 (http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&ll=45.717447,-120.783691&spn=0.048121,0.132093&sll=45.723529,-120.80133&sspn=0.012029,0.033023&geocode=FcqBuQIdo9HM-A%3BFfa2uQIdZKTM-A&vpsrc=6&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=16&t=h&z=14).
It's located in Washington State about 100 miles East of Portland in the Columbia River Gorge. It's a private road that is occasionally rented out for various activities to include motorcycling events. Infact, SoundRider.com: http://www.soundrider.com (http://www.soundrider.com) Reserves it for their annual Sportbike NW Rally, which is held each summer in Stevenson, WA.
sorry i thought i saw that you thought drifting was lame? so, that much skill, throttle control and balance is lame? i'd love to be that lame, i really would.....
Wow - that is one amazingly well produced, shot and edited video!! :good2: The riding and driving was pretty good too... ;)
Sorry,
Clarification:
CAR drifting as a sport is lame.
The guys riding bikes were incredible.
DavidR.
I've gotta agree with Dr. Ratfart...... Drifting is LAME.
Lame you may say but still not easy. As a British citizen i'd say baseball was lamer but i'd say it very quietly and facing the corne with my hand over my mouth so no one would hear me. :lol:
In cars, it's incredibly lame, on bikes, skilled but still lame.... It takes more skill to go fast without getting excessive wheel spin, you don't see the MotoGP guys doing it. It IS fun, when out riding, to light the tire up thru a turn, but to go truly fast, wheelspin doesn't work.... And these days, I can't afford to go thru tires that way :drinks:
Quote from: RichBaker on January 20, 2012, 07:48:18 PM
In cars, it's incredibly lame, on bikes, skilled but still lame.... It takes more skill to go fast without getting excessive wheel spin, you don't see the MotoGP guys doing it. It IS fun, when out riding, to light the tire up thru a turn, but to go truly fast, wheelspin doesn't work.... And these days, I can't afford to go thru tires that way :drinks:
yes you do, not often on purpose but they still do it and i've seen videos of Stoner doing and Rossi and Malandri. It takes more skill to go fast sideways then not but then it's not about speed as similarly stunt riding isn't but it's still impressive to watch it. IMHO (which isn't actually that humble).
http://youtu.be/8tVSBAbpaEg (http://youtu.be/8tVSBAbpaEg)
Not on the straights and not all the way thru the turns.... All the MotoGP bikes have traction control... for a reason. Yeah, I remember the 500CC days, they spun the tires thru just about every turn, because that was the only way they could get them turned. Plus, those 2-smokes were just brutal on tires. These days, if you can't make the tire last, you won't finish well...
Car drifting and "monster" trucks are both a huge waste of good horsepower. Both about as exciting as NASCAR (and baseball).
Now, hanging it out sideways through a turn in a rally car or a sprint car or in MotoGP is some serious skill.
DavidR.
...... agree, car drifting, monster trucks and baseball is exciting to watch as bowling.
I would like to see get in a Nascar and go 200mph with 40 other cars around you, for 2 to3hours...... talking about serious skill.
Jeff
I would probably do better if I could manage to stay awake for an entire race. :-)
DavidR
.....I hope your talking about watching,... going 200mph driving, don't think you would have a difficult time staying awake.
if not, that just goes to show, that you have not watch enough of the races!!
not all racing, has an exciting finsh, every time!! I know, I have been to many short tracks.
Jeff
whatever vehicle it's in or on, doing something that is out of the ordinary (driving to the store etc) takes skill, even if you don't like the sport, it takes skill that most of us don't have. I've tried drifting cars and it's bloody hard to catch it at the right time let alone feather the throttle well enough to keep the slide.The same goes with nascar for me, i find the fact it's mostly on an oval to be somewhat tedious (throw a few different bends in there too) but i admire the guys that do it for having the balls big enough.
We all have different opinions and whether we personally 'like' something is part of whether we appreciate the skill but what makes all the difference is appreciating the skill of people doing something we don't personally enjoy.
As for throttle control, and traction control notwithstanding, it sure seems to me that it takes more precise throttle control to ride the knife edge of traction, at race speeds, with an eye on being the fastest around the would-be track, than it would be to blather waaay past it. I believe this was Rich's point.
That being said, the boys in that video were talented, certainly. If I were to attempt to do any of what those bikes, or car for that matter were doing, it would not turn out well -picture me unceremoniously flying through the air, and you pretty much have it...
Dan
It may be fun to watch, but any "sport" that is judged rather than scored or timed is just figure skating. Not a sport.
Quote from: andyb on January 21, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
It may be fun to watch, but any "sport" that is judged rather than scored or timed is just figure skating. Not a sport.
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That video was fun, nothing but.
Drifting, I was doing that on rural gravel roads 35 years ago, and it was a total blast. If I could of done it on pavement, I would of.
Had a 1972 Mustang fastback, 302 3 speed, it was way too fun on the gravel roads, "drifting" was not what we called it, but that is what it was.
One of the last times I did it, came around a corner and there was a couple of good old boys parked on the side of the road in a pick-em-up. Chevrolet, mid sixties model, orange and white I believe it was.
They took chase, and oh boy, we really tore up the roads that day, it was possibly the only time I really scared myself doing it.
I remember seeing that pickup on my rear bumper, all crossed up in the corners, and those two rednecks giving it all they had.
Came to a straight, pulled over to talk to them and they were not having fun, they were mad - red neck mad.
They screamed that I kicked up a rock and cracked their windshield. One tried to get in my passenger door, luckily the handle was broke. The other guy tried to pull me out my window, my door was quicxkly locked, I was nobody's fool.
Dumb ass reached in and I rolled the window up on his arm, he was smart to pull it out at the last second.
I offered to replace their windshield, but that is not what they wanted, they wanted blood.
I had a small .32 I carried, and I remember those guys threatening me every which way and trying to get into my car to get me out and do to me what those guys in that part of the state were known for, beating the living crap out of people.
My hand was now on the gun, it was loaded, cocked and ready, still concealed enough they had not seen it. They had almost pushed me to the point of pulling it - and I would of had to use it.
Made the decision at the last second, slammed the car in gear and left them both in a storm of rocks and dust, they never did catch up.
Bad deal could of gone really bad.
I'll never forget that moment, or the fun we had on those gravel roads.
That time, it was not a lot of fun......