There's many on the site now, far more than in the past.
This is good, means people are interested in keeping these great bikes and community going.
This is a well put together site with terrific resources and an easy user interface, you can upload and download pics and docs, lot's of things.
One problem though, this all costs money.
Surprised?
Thought it was, just, like, the innerwebz or something?
It costs to have servers and web hosting and all the rest of it, you'll see some of us have donated to the site, but a hell of a lot haven't.
So, how about doing the right thing you welching slackers and tip some money into it?
Done and dusted..
:good2:
Marsh, just to throw in a thought here on this subject. Would there be any value to have a club funds meeter that lets us know when the kitty is low? With as many active members here I am sure the donation size need not be large or often to keep the cost out of the Red. Or maybe some guide lines for to use when donating to keep the balance sheet balanced.
Klavdy, what is the ratio of contributing members vs. non? Not asking to rat anyone out, just curious.
I am sure everyone has noticed...What is unique here, is that there is no advertising, other than what our members post for sale.
Once and a while a couple of companies sneak thru and want to sell us sex toys but Klavdy handles (!) those offenders.
Marsh could easily, very easily, make money on this site, but he doesn't and he won't. That's the type of guy he is.
I don't know how many hundreds of hours of his professional time he spent building and continually improving this playhouse.
This place has got to cost him money. Got to...File servers/memory ain't free. How much? Hell I don't know. I'm a moderator and he won't even tell me.
Klavdy has got a good ear to the ground. If he asks for money, there is a reason.
Thanks Pat, that put some polish on it.
Quote from: FJmonkey on November 18, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
Marsh, just to throw in a thought here on this subject. Would there be any value to have a club funds meeter that lets us know when the kitty is low? With as many active members here I am sure the donation size need not be large or often to keep the cost out of the Red. Or maybe some guide lines for to use when donating to keep the balance sheet balanced.
Klavdy, what is the ratio of contributing members vs. non? Not asking to rat anyone out, just curious.
The ratio?
Fucked if I know, mate.
I practically fell over myself to get my credit card and make a donation ::. Klavdy scares me :shok:
Quote from: Klavdy on November 18, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on November 18, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
Marsh, just to throw in a thought here on this subject. Would there be any value to have a club funds meeter that lets us know when the kitty is low? With as many active members here I am sure the donation size need not be large or often to keep the cost out of the Red. Or maybe some guide lines for to use when donating to keep the balance sheet balanced.
Klavdy, what is the ratio of contributing members vs. non? Not asking to rat anyone out, just curious.
The ratio?
Fucked if I know, mate.
Marsh???
Klavdy, thanks for the reminder. I contributed a few years back and it was time to kick in again. I now consider myself a reformed "welching slacker". :yes:
I made my donation. Partially due to FJMonkey and his helpfulness/generosity and also to the general great attitude of the folks on this site.
I recently bought an 87 1200 and I know I'm going to need help and will have questions.
If you've been lurking on FJOwners and have gained knowledge from the members, you should kick in some bucks. "Ain't nothin free"
Kurt
Complete agreement Mike.... when Klavdy speaks people listen... Happy Thanksgiving all -- my part is on its way.
stevecc
In fact there is not much business if there are no publicity, I know very good. Near everyday I answer to someone that visit my web and mail me about FJ questions. Too many answers and few donations. For me it is a hobby and I think that if I can help someone to fix a problem, there will be always anyone that solve me a problem about any question in the future.
Want to see who has donated to the cause and who are the ones enjoying the free ride? Just click on this link and all will be answered:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist)
So we all know who is and who is not and how much use they get out of this site. Great transparency
CraigO
What Klavdy said......
This forum made it possible for me to restore & maintain my FJ
The friendship and support of the members here helped me thru what was the darkest period of my life.
So cough up a few bucks & don't be a bludger!
I tried posting this earlier but it did not go through.
I have no idea how much it costs to operate this site but I can imagine its not cheap and is very time consuming. Since I have no computer skills I have no problem contributing money instead. This forum has provided me with a wealth of info and a great source of humour.
Perhaps the time has come to charge an annual user fee much like an annual subscription fee to a magazine. Those that don't want to support the site can leave and set up their own site. Good luck. With a current membership of 1884 losing a few non supporters and non contributors doesn't bother me a bit.
Let's put it in perspective. Most members probably subscribe to at least a couple of magazines or at least a newspaper. This material for the most part ends up in the recycle bin. Probably most of us also go to a bar once in a while. This, after going through the kidneys, is also lost forever. The info on this site stays and is always available. Which is the better deal?
Information is the most fundamental tool and tools cost money. Hein.
Quote from: hein on November 22, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
I tried posting this earlier but it did not go through.
I have no idea how much it costs to operate this site but I can imagine its not cheap and is very time consuming. Since I have no computer skills I have no problem contributing money instead. This forum has provided me with a wealth of info and a great source of humour.
Perhaps the time has come to charge an annual user fee much like an annual subscription fee to a magazine. Those that don't want to support the site can leave and set up their own site. Good luck. With a current membership of 1884 losing a few non supporters and non contributors doesn't bother me a bit.
Let's put it in perspective. Most members probably subscribe to at least a couple of magazines or at least a newspaper. This material for the most part ends up in the recycle bin. Probably most of us also go to a bar once in a while. This, after going through the kidneys, is also lost forever. The info on this site stays and is always available. Which is the better deal?
Information is the most fundamental tool and tools cost money. Hein.
HERE HERE! (for those that weren't brought up British that means, "Yeah!, what he said!")
Or how about this, unless there is the word "Contributor" is under your name you don't get your question answered. Well I suppose that's a little harsh, maybe 3 free questions.
Quote from: grannyknot on November 22, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
Or how about this, unless there is the word "Contributor" is under your name you don't get your question answered. Well I suppose that's a little harsh, maybe 3 free questions.
But some of us don't ask any questions. Maybe AndyB should be on the payroll?
There are $ Contributors and there are Information Contributors. Both are valuable to the community.
That said, as soon as I can pry the PP password from the wife unit I will be earning my new $ Contributor title.
(And paying Ritt for all the parts I just signed up for. :-)
DavidR.
Hey David, I agree with you. As I stated before we contribute as we can. Some run the site, some provide info, some contribute money and some a combination of the above. I did a little survey of the membership and of the 1884 members only 148 members contributed money and 906 have never even bothered posting even once.
To me this indicates that there is no shortage of parasites using this forum and contributing nothing. I fully realize that policing the site is next to impossible and would severly increase the work load of those who already run the operation. However a small annual donation should not prove to be much of a burden on most of us. Hein.
Shoot, the carb cleaning info alone is well worth a small admission price.
The drama comes for free!
Jokes and pictures ice the cake.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on November 22, 2011, 05:20:19 PM
Quote from: grannyknot on November 22, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
Or how about this, unless there is the word "Contributor" is under your name you don't get your question answered. Well I suppose that's a little harsh, maybe 3 free questions.
But some of us don't ask any questions. Maybe AndyB should be on the payroll?
There are $ Contributors and there are Information Contributors. Both are valuable to the community.
That said, as soon as I can pry the PP password from the wife unit I will be earning my new $ Contributor title.
(And paying Ritt for all the parts I just signed up for. :-)
DavidR.
David, I did not mean to imply that you or any of the few who answer questions here are freeloaders,
quite the opposite. People login here to read your answers including me. I've been wrenching on bikes and cars for 35 years and I learn new things here all the time.
I was just trying to come up with a way to bring in more funds for Marsh.
After what you and the other gurus went through with Irishluck we should be paying you.
I didn't take offense. Since Klavdy started the thread, I just thought I would stir it up a little. I don't feel obligated to pay, but I do feel compelled to do so for the benefit of the community as a whole.
My sticking point is I have to get the PP password from my wife, which then causes her to ask questions. That plus the fact that I just agreed to PP a chunk of money to Rittner for some parts. Maybe I can pass it off as a Thanksgiving/birthday present. :-)
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on November 22, 2011, 08:36:41 PM
I didn't take offense. Since Klavdy started the thread, I just thought I would stir it up a little. I don't feel obligated to pay, but I do feel compelled to do so for the benefit of the community as a whole.
My sticking point is I have to get the PP password from my wife, which then causes her to ask questions. That plus the fact that I just agreed to PP a chunk of money to Rittner for some parts. Maybe I can pass it off as a Thanksgiving/birthday present. :-)
DavidR.
If you are married long enough then that is not the only thing you need to pry out of her..... :sarcastic:
Contribution sent, for I alone control the Paypal in my home!
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on November 22, 2011, 08:36:41 PM
I don't feel obligated to pay, but I do feel compelled to do so for the benefit of the community as a whole.
Ditto. This in addition to any useful stuff I may/have put up here, for the benefits of other FJers.
However, comments that include the word "parasite" make me less willing to do so.
Hein: " ..............there is no shortage of
parasites using this forum and contributing nothing......"
>>
>>
par·a·site /ˈpærəˌsaɪt/ Show Spelled[par-uh-sahyt]
noun
1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.
Yeah!
Dirty Seppo bastarard Canadian.
He shoulda said Bludger.
what is a bastarad?
Sorry bout Woodsie ,MCnewser
bludger
noun
1. (slang) A person who avoids working , or who does not do their share of work, a loafer, a hanger on, one who does not pull one's weight, pull their weight
2. (slang) (obsolete) A man living off the earnings of a harlot. (Reference: Sidney J. Baker, The Australian Language, second edition, 1966, chapter VI section 3, page 129, mentioning an 1882 record of this usage,)
I would much rather be a "welching slacker"
Sorry I can't help you with "bastard" although I think it's a term of endearment. An example being "You magnificent bastard"
FJMonkey, I have had little success with a pry bar with personal matters concerning the wife. Oh crap, I said it.
The wealth of information and humor is worth much more then any subscription to a rag, print or digital. I get daily updates here! I just bumped my bar out a lil more. I like having the link to see who is where.
I was, MANY Years Ago, a Bus Boy at a high end restaurant. Many servers were not willing to contribute fairly to the Bus help tip pool. We started posting the top 10 server contribution list daily. WOW, did we piss off the cheap skates. So now everyone knows who is a team member. Mothers day, busiest day of the year for dining out. Bus staff had a lock on the silver wear and if you could not get your tables reset you could not seat guests. Bus staff got all the contributors first and the others not so much. It was a show indeed.
But I digress, Kick in you cheap fuc*ers, you know who you are and you have been pointed out. Even $5 makes a difference.
Quote from: nvmike24 on November 24, 2011, 08:08:44 AM
. Even $5 makes a difference.
Thats true. If every member contributed 5 dollars it would equal... uhm
1906 x 5 uhm 9530.
That to me would make a huge difference and cover the costs for atleast a year or 2 Im sure?
Quote from: rossco on November 24, 2011, 05:28:15 AM
what is a bastarad?
I'm sorry; I just realized you were seeking help on the definition of the word bastatad not bastard. I can't help you with "bastarad" although I
don't think it's a term of endearment. An example of its use being "Dirty Seppo
bastarard Canadian" [the only known example of use as of this writing]. My feeling is that it is possibly Australian slang for "welching slacker". Contributing $$ to this site might limit the future use of both terms.
Damn n00bs.
BASTARARD.
It's an East Coast Rally thing.
Ask Rock.
I blame the red top.
QuoteI would much rather be a "welching slacker"
As opposed to a "felching slacker"
And Klavdy posted this
QuoteNo, I has redtube
and a whole new world opened up.
That kinda tech is a priceless example of how one may draw back the veil of ignorance then bask in enlightenment of more topics than cool old motorcycles. Well done.
Pitch in a few dollars, its worth it.
Given your penchant for the correct spell
BTW Boris gave you a shoutout for lending
him warm thermals ,what a noobee
Kakadu --give you 5 JMO
Woodsie told bout that
Silly Rossco, BASTARARD is a bit like BETONCE.
Something of an in joke from the East Coast rallies.
Quote from: Klavdy on November 26, 2011, 03:12:51 AM
Silly Rossco, BASTARARD is a bit like BETONCE.
Something of an in joke from the East Coast rallies.
whereas klavdy is something of an in and out joke from east coast rallies... :rofl2:
Dean finds wasps interesting.
Xmas is coming, he should expect a little something in the mail.
I'm going to become a $ Contributor as soon as my commission cheque comes in 2 weeks time, you guys keep reminding me I have a shiny FJ under a cover in the shed begging to be ridden, :good:
Hoo Roo
X-Ray
Donated again. About time I gave some more. Great site and needs to keep running. :good2:
I'm officially a contributor :good2:
Merry xmas guys
Kev
Quote from: craigo on November 22, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Want to see who has donated to the cause and who are the ones enjoying the free ride? Just click on this link and all will be answered:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist)
So we all know who is and who is not and how much use they get out of this site. Great transparency
CraigO
The list is not entirely accurate....
Quote from: the fan on January 03, 2012, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: craigo on November 22, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Want to see who has donated to the cause and who are the ones enjoying the free ride? Just click on this link and all will be answered:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=mlist)
So we all know who is and who is not and how much use they get out of this site. Great transparency
CraigO
The list is not entirely accurate....
Yes it is - you are just one of 5 people who have extra moderation privileges on this website. Each person can only be in one membergroup - and yours is "Files Section Guru" Instead of "$ Contributor". I appreciate your financial and time contribution to this site! :good2: