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Title: The brake pedal
Post by: vulcanbill on May 21, 2009, 07:06:15 AM
Is this normal?  Wifey's bike after our recent trip.   :shok:

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Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: n8man1068 on May 21, 2009, 07:57:10 AM
Normal that it's ground down? At that angle, I'd imagine that its not.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: rvnmaniac on May 21, 2009, 10:30:59 AM
 Must be stock susension.......
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: the fan on May 21, 2009, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: vulcanbill on May 21, 2009, 07:06:15 AM
Is this normal?  Wifey's bike after our recent trip.   :shok:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3547024054_7a0d5b743f_b.jpg (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3547024054_7a0d5b743f_b.jpg)



It really does not that much of a pace to drag controls on a winding road. Thats why I gave dean his bike back after a few too many (s)miles.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: ddlewis on May 21, 2009, 02:37:19 PM
Lots of us have had that problem.  If she's long legged enough and doesn't mind a taller seat height, shorter dogbones will give more clearance..  and save the toes of your boots.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: vulcanbill on May 21, 2009, 03:27:13 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on May 21, 2009, 02:37:19 PM
Lots of us have had that problem.  If she's long legged enough and doesn't mind a taller seat height, shorter dogbones will give more clearance..  and save the toes of your boots.

She is and she wouldn't.  Where might one acquire said dogbones?
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: andyb on May 21, 2009, 09:33:40 PM
Looking at the angle that it's ground at, looks like it'd be best to raise it a bit, looks like it's set quite low.

Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: vulcanbill on May 21, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: andyb on May 21, 2009, 09:33:40 PM
Looking at the angle that it's ground at, looks like it'd be best to raise it a bit, looks like it's set quite low.



The pedal or the bike?   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: andyb on May 22, 2009, 08:17:20 AM
The pedal.  The bike is getting fairly low too, it would seem....

I want to say I grind near the start of my midpipe long before the brake lever though, so probably depends on how your stuff is setup.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: ddlewis on May 22, 2009, 12:48:10 PM
You'd have to have it made, unless somebody knows a swap.  Would be easy to make if you know anybody w/ metal shop.  Dean has them.. Dean where'd you get yours, Jon Cain?
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: the fan on May 22, 2009, 02:16:53 PM
I can have a set made if someone can get a measurement for me. I dont have a bike to check. cost would be around $45.00

Or I can just send a drawing and you can have a set made yourself. Its nothing magical, and any machinist can make a set out of 1/4" mild steel stock.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: tqmx1 on May 22, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
What year FJ are you talking about? If it is pre 87 you are SOL 89 and up you can have different dog bones made.

My looking at the photo my guess it was downed at sometime in it's life and they did not replace the lever and you just spotted it. Look at the bike and see how much stuff you would have to clean off before you would get down to the lever (like peg feelers the pegs them selves not to mention boots are a early touchdown point)

Take a look at Klavs 08 west coast rally movies and see where his toe is touching down well before anything else.

Just take a file & smooth off the rough spot and see if she does it again.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: andyb on May 22, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
For the 89+ you can get adjustable ones made even, which are lovely.

Google Soupy Links, I don't know if the guy even still does it.
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: vulcanbill on May 24, 2009, 08:27:01 AM
Quote from: andyb on May 22, 2009, 08:17:20 AM
The pedal.  The bike is getting fairly low too, it would seem....

I want to say I grind near the start of my midpipe long before the brake lever though, so probably depends on how your stuff is setup.


Pedal is basically where it needs to be.  She's got a lot of miles on this bike and it's set up perfect. 
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: vulcanbill on May 24, 2009, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: tqmx1 on May 22, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
What year FJ are you talking about? If it is pre 87 you are SOL 89 and up you can have different dog bones made.

My looking at the photo my guess it was downed at sometime in it's life and they did not replace the lever and you just spotted it. Look at the bike and see how much stuff you would have to clean off before you would get down to the lever (like peg feelers the pegs them selves not to mention boots are a early touchdown point)

Take a look at Klavs 08 west coast rally movies and see where his toe is touching down well before anything else.

Just take a file & smooth off the rough spot and see if she does it again.

It's a 91.  It's never been down.  She keeps the balls of her feet on the pegs during brisk riding so she rarely gets boots down anymore.  The pegs have taken a fair amount of abuse.  This is the first time, to my knowledge, that the brake lever has dragged but the bike was loaded up w/ two heavy e41s and a V46.  In addition, I replaced the original rear shock w/ a stock shock w/ low miles before we left tho settings were the same.  I think it's just time to raise it up.  The brake pedal suffered that fate on the Parkway.  I was behind her and saw and heard it as I often do.  Just didn't know it was any different than any other time.  Interested in learning more about raising it up.  She needs the room apparently.

BillO
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: rktmanfj on May 24, 2009, 09:28:09 AM

As was said earlier, it's nothing magical.

I made mine from a piece of 1" mild steel strap that I picked up at Lowe's

Put the bike on the center stand, and removed the stock dogbones, dropping the rear wheel onto the ground.

Spaced the rear wheel 1/2" off the ground with a scrap of plywood.

Measured the center to center of the dogbones then cut and drilled the new pieces to length.

Marked the ends of the new 'bones, and took them to the grinder to round them off.

Painted the new 'bones with Rust-Oleum.

Reassembled with the new 'bones.

You may want to lengthen the side stand, YMMV.      :good:

It's also a good opportunity to grease the shock linkage.

Randy T
Indy
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 24, 2009, 01:37:07 PM

+1, Right on Andy, he still does and they are quite handy. I have them on both bikes.
http://www.soupysperformance.com/homepage.html (http://www.soupysperformance.com/homepage.html)

Pat

Quote from: andyb on May 22, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
For the 89+ you can get adjustable ones made even, which are lovely.

Google Soupy Links, I don't know if the guy even still does it.

Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: Harvy on May 24, 2009, 07:32:03 PM
Agreed Pat. Steve C purchased a set for me and shipped them over when I did the FZ1 swingarm......very nice piece of kit.

Harvy
Title: Re: The brake pedal
Post by: mst3kguy on May 24, 2009, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on May 22, 2009, 12:48:10 PM
You'd have to have it made, unless somebody knows a swap.  Would be easy to make if you know anybody w/ metal shop.  Dean has them.. Dean where'd you get yours, Jon Cain?


hippie cain made mine about 5 years ago.  holeshot bill made a pair for my fjr so i could flat foot it.  he did that unintentionally, or he's telling me short people got no reason to live.  i think he's working on a newer set to raise up my fjr.  i'll make sure i have them installed before herny buys my bike.