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Title: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 08:48:23 AM
I know its sad but I really dont know what year FJ i have. the tag at the dealership said 1988, but when I looked on the internet the 1100 was only made 1984 to 1986 and the bike looked a lot like a 1985 model so I thought it was that. then I saw the 1984 model and it looks a lot like that as well. Can anybody tell me exactly what year mine is??

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1788_28_07_11_7_45_04.jpeg)

and

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1788_28_07_11_7_46_22.jpeg)

Hope that helps and thanks for any help ye i know I am probably a tard :dash2:
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJ111200 on July 28, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
What are the engine and frame numbers?
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 09:14:48 AM
i dont know if these were the right numbers but its all i could find

*36Y-002954*

and

1-N-2-3-4-5 which i assume is the gearing
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJ111200 on July 28, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
Well 36Y says it's a FJ1100, 83-86. The registration document might be a clue as to the actual year, but i don't think anything significant changed on the 1100 during it's production run.
I notice that from the pictures it's got FZR400 front brake calipers from 1990. And the top fairing has been altered so that there are no air scoops.
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 09:33:31 AM
FZR 400 front brake calipers?? on an 1100 um is that better or worse?
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJ111200 on July 28, 2011, 09:39:10 AM
Better.  4 piston calipers instead of 2.
Well they look like FZR from here.  There isn't a mounting bracket is there to suggest that they are from an '88 onwards FJ1200?

EDIT. Oh hang on a minute. Looks like 2 piston caliper on the fiche.  http://www.cmsnl.com/yamaha-fzr400a-1990_model9585/partslist/E-04.html (http://www.cmsnl.com/yamaha-fzr400a-1990_model9585/partslist/E-04.html)
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 09:42:23 AM
I honestly could not tell you when I asked the dealership they said everuthing apart from the exhaust was stock but then they also told me it was an 88 reg. :pardon: From my own inspection of the bike there appear to be brand new forks on it so the brakes may \have the mounting bracket. This is my first FJ and I havent seen another 1 up close to compare so as far as I know I think everything thats on it is oem...
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: rktmanfj on July 28, 2011, 09:51:37 AM


Yamaha VIN decoder:

http://www.motoverse.com/tools/vin/yamaha.asp (http://www.motoverse.com/tools/vin/yamaha.asp)
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 09:52:42 AM
I am pretty sure the forks are still knew becos they still have the price label thing on :lol: if u look in the top picture there is a white square (the label which I just realised
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJ111200 on July 28, 2011, 09:54:48 AM
Well that's a 16inch front wheel from an 1100, the 17inch wheels came in from '88 on with the 3CV 12's. Those front discs are the 1100 ones which are a bit smaller that the 3CV but the same as the 1TX 1200's.
So maybe the later 3CV 1200 forks you've got there are using the later 4 piston calipers on early discs.
I suppose there must be some part of the brake pads which aren't biting on the discs?
Some guru will be along soon.
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 28, 2011, 09:57:01 AM
Na theres no biting, none that I can pick up and that VIN decoder would be very helpful if i could find the 17 digit number thanks anyway when I find it I will use it
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJ111200 on July 28, 2011, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: FJt!llD3@th on July 28, 2011, 09:57:01 AM
Na theres no biting, none that I can pick up

:yahoo:  Shit man, hope your brakes work. I said i suppose there must be some part of the brake pads which aren't biting, meaning that the larger later model 1200 have longer pads and so with the smaller 1100 discs they could be missing the disc in parts when they bite.
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: axiom-r on July 28, 2011, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: FJt!llD3@th on July 28, 2011, 09:57:01 AM
Na theres no biting, none that I can pick up and that VIN decoder would be very helpful if i could find the 17 digit number thanks anyway when I find it I will use it

The Frame VIN is on the frame rail that goes around the head tube in the front- not on the head tube like most bikes.  With the bike on the side stand and bars to turned left- look down at the forks from above- on the right side - on one of the round silver frame rails is a 17 digit #. 

tim
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJmonkey on July 28, 2011, 07:37:37 PM
Quote from: FJt!llD3@th on July 28, 2011, 08:48:23 AM
I know its sad but I really dont know what year FJ i have. the tag at the dealership said 1988, but when I looked on the internet the 1100 was only made 1984 to 1986 and the bike looked a lot like a 1985 model so I thought it was that. then I saw the 1984 model and it looks a lot like that as well. Can anybody tell me exactly what year mine is??
Hope that helps and thanks for any help ye i know I am probably a tard :dash2:
It has all the classic 84/85 bits like the upper fairing and tail. Maybe someone had a newer year but really liked the 84/85 look. Stranger things have happened to our FJ's.
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 29, 2011, 03:20:58 AM
So i looked up the forks and saw a little worn out card looking thing but still didnt see a VIN number only a VIN number and some other random numbers but none of them equalled 17 digits. Mind you I couldnt really get a proper look with all the cables in the way. will have another look later on during lunch hour. for the moment I am lost though it very well may be an older model with older parts, all I know is that I wont truly be able to compare until I meet a fellow FJ'er
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: fj11.5 on July 29, 2011, 11:24:17 AM
There is a vin number on the right side top frame rail hiding just under the inner fairing cover, may have been painted over,as its stamped into the frame .
:greeting:
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: tqmx1 on July 29, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
OK lets make this simple. Take a look at your pink slip (or what ever paper work they have down there) it should be on it somewhere. As for the engine # right above the clutch cover (right side) there is a number stamped into the case unless the engine has been changed at sometime or another.

And fore forks look like they are off a 89 or later seeing that they have no anti dive provisions
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 29, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: tqmx1 on July 29, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
OK lets make this simple. Take a look at your pink slip (or what ever paper work they have down there) it should be on it somewhere.

That does not necessarily help.  I but a "1984" FJ from a dealer in Denver.  Registered in CO, then GA, then PA.  Turns out, it was actually a 1885!  A lister, back on the yahoo site pointed out that based on my particular color scheme, it could NOT be a 1894, or at least if it was, someone had replaced all the plastics. This was not the case, I did have a 1985, but three separate states allowed incorrect year registration.

That may be a way to tell your year based on color scheme. If it's  an 1100, it may be that your paint scheme was only either 84 or an 85.  Post a pic, someone here may be able to tell you.

Dan
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJmonkey on July 29, 2011, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on July 29, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: tqmx1 on July 29, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
OK lets make this simple. Take a look at your pink slip (or what ever paper work they have down there) it should be on it somewhere.
That does not necessarily help.  I but a "1984" FJ from a dealer in Denver.  Registered in CO, then GA, then PA.  Turns out, it was actually a 1885!  A lister, back on the yahoo site pointed out that based on my particular color scheme, it could NOT be a 1894, or at least if it was, someone had replaced all the plastics. This was not the case, I did have a 1985, but three separate states allowed incorrect year registration.
That may be a way to tell your year based on color scheme. If it's  an 1100, it may be that your paint scheme was only either 84 or an 85.  Post a pic, someone here may be able to tell you.
Dan
Back away from the wine or beer or sniffing paint..... :lol:
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: fj1200d on July 29, 2011, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 29, 2011, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on July 29, 2011, 08:01:43 PM
Quote from: tqmx1 on July 29, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
OK lets make this simple. Take a look at your pink slip (or what ever paper work they have down there) it should be on it somewhere.
That does not necessarily help.  I but a "1984" FJ from a dealer in Denver.  Registered in CO, then GA, then PA.  Turns out, it was actually a 1885!  A lister, back on the yahoo site pointed out that based on my particular color scheme, it could NOT be a 1894, or at least if it was, someone had replaced all the plastics. This was not the case, I did have a 1985, but three separate states allowed incorrect year registration.
That may be a way to tell your year based on color scheme. If it's  an 1100, it may be that your paint scheme was only either 84 or an 85.  Post a pic, someone here may be able to tell you.
Dan
Back away from the wine or beer or sniffing paint..... :lol:

Leave him alone.. damn time travelers...  :sarcastic:
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 29, 2011, 10:16:51 PM
Dyslexia, who'da thunk?

Dan
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: richardphillips6208 on August 02, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
Your 1985 deduction sounds about right, especially if you are in the US. In actual fact, there IS a 1988 model, but it was not exported to the US. I know as I have one. The colour scheme and some other minor changes are also evident. Mine was built in september of 1988 and clearly states so on the tag as per Australian regulations. It is not much different from the 1987 and 1999 models, but can be a pain in the arse when trying to find parts.
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on August 05, 2011, 06:03:37 AM
@ Richard if that is true that i have an 88 model 1100 then i would be very surprised I actually come from south africa. and as Dan said the slips are unreliable to be honest nowhere on my slips does it say my manufacture year. also there is only a 9 digit engine number no 17 digit number. the only useful thing my papers tell me is the bike was first registered in 2003, which i highly doubt. I was gonna ask the previous owner but he died in a honda accident so no luck there
Title: Re: i dont know what year FJ I have...
Post by: FJTillDeath on August 05, 2011, 06:07:32 AM
also my license disk says my bike weighs 360kgs (about 770 pounds which is also highly unlikely as that 100 kg more than a normal fj and also i lifted the bike and it doesnt feel THAT heavy)