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I am about to purchase a carb sync tool and would like to know which one will work best for the cheapest. Please only respond if you have worked with or seen work. Please do not comment on others opinions, dont make this a flame war.


Carbmate $100 2cyl http://www.vacuummate.com/carbmate/index.php (http://www.vacuummate.com/carbmate/index.php)

Twinmax $104 2cyl http://www.ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=2146 (http://www.ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=2146)

Cheapo Vacuum Gauges 2cyl $25 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MSJ7C8/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MSJ7C8/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&psc=1)

Carb tune 4cyl $108 http://www.carbtune.com/ (http://www.carbtune.com/)

I have one, cant remember the brand , its a 4cyl model, the same as RPM  sell , works well, easy to use

I would prefer the Carb Tune. It keeps the readings close together. I have a cheap one with analog guages that I bought from Ebay for about $70. I think the brand is Kymco. It's O.K.

I used a vacumate last year it was the balls. Very pricey but tells you a lot of things.

Bob W

Here is what I have to offer. I have sold 5-6 since the website web on-line and no complaints.

http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro)

Randy - RPM

Quote from: racerrad8 on July 21, 2011, 10:01:18 AM
Here is what I have to offer. I have sold 5-6 since the website web on-line and no complaints.
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro)
Randy - RPM

Yes, buy the one from Randy. He's well know 'round these parts, and has a lot of happy customers here. :hi:

Ive used the carbtune carb stix many times and they wor wonderfully . I would recomend them anyday

Brian

those look similar to the carbtune ones

Brian

The Motion pro looks like a nice setup.

The major difference between the Carbtune and Motion Pro is the Carbtune uses polished Stainless Steel rods instead of a manometer fluid in the Motion Pro.

I bought the Carbtune years ago and it has been worth every penny.  :)

Hey randy, allready gave you a free add of sorts :)    but yep, thats the set i have, thanks for the pic :)  :)

Quote from: pdxfj on July 21, 2011, 11:39:52 AM
The Motion pro looks like a nice setup.

The major difference between the Carbtune and Motion Pro is the Carbtune uses polished Stainless Steel rods instead of a manometer fluid in the Motion Pro.

I bought the Carbtune years ago and it has been worth every penny.  :)

Yep I've used the Motion Pro for years. The old model that had Mercury, back when you could buy Mercury.

It's a right of passage....All FJ owners who have liquid in your balance sticks HAVE to go through...it goes like this:

1) Engine warm: check
2) Tank off, aux tank connected: check
3) Rubber caps off, hoses connected: check
4) Start engine: check
5) Idle at 1000-1200 rpm: check
6) Balance carbs #1 to#2: check
7) Balance carbs #3 to #4: check
8.) Balance left bank #1/2 to right bank #3/4: check

Now for a little blip to clear her throat: check......Wait....Where the fuck did all the Mercury go?

No worries with my Morgan Carb Tune. I've got to REALLY screw up before one of those stainless rods get ingested.

Morgan Carbtune, works great, no experience with the others.

Quote from: Slick on July 21, 2011, 02:23:29 AM

and would like to know which one will work best for the cheapest. Please only respond if .............

Please do not comment on others opinions,

sounds easy

Quote from: weymouth399 on July 21, 2011, 05:21:48 AM
I used a vacumate last year it was the balls. Very pricey but tells you a lot of things.

Bob W

As you can see Bob likes to give his opinion.............even when you don't want it.

   Over the last few decades I've had four different types, two homemade, two store bought. First homemade one I used individual vacuum gauges, hoses and resrictors. They worked OK but had more needle flutter than I liked so they finally got binned. Next one I made was the individual manometer style using mercury. Constant worry concerning sucking mercury into the engine caused me to bin this system also. First store bought system was a Motion Pro using Manometer fluid which worked fine but unfortuneatly developed legs and walked away never to be seen again. I now have the Morgan carb tune which works great.   Hein.

Quote from: Travis398 on July 21, 2011, 05:19:45 PM

Quote from: Slick on July 21, 2011, 02:23:29 AM

and would like to know which one will work best for the cheapest. Please only respond if .............

Please do not comment on others opinions,

sounds easy

Quote from: weymouth399 on July 21, 2011, 05:21:48 AM
I used a vacumate last year it was the balls. Very pricey but tells you a lot of things.

Bob W

As you can see Bob likes to give his opinion.............even when you don't want it.

I dont know if you are aware, but commenting about someone else's comment, is still just that... lol  :empathy:

Thank you all for making this thread have value, and not making it a flame war. So far it looks like I will be going with the carbtune as soon as I have the money again now that I had to put $350 out of pocket(no insurance) today for new eyes(glasses). Dam it, summer is almost over and I have college starting next month, I hope I can get her running good in time for some more riding this season. Is there anyone local to Central Jersey that may have one of these, maybe help me out a little?

I have a set of "cheapo vac guages" but its a set of 4.  It works fine, but does have to be calibrated occasionally.  I've also used a set of Morgan Carbtune and like it better, but already have the 4 vac guages.

Arnie

Quote from: carsick on July 21, 2011, 03:54:48 PM
Morgan Carbtune, works great, no experience with the others.

Same here.  No doubt it's a well-made, life-long tool.  Easily could be passed on to a kid later in life -tool.

Dan

I have used the gauge type back in the 80's working at a Kawasaki shop. Didn't like them, too hard to watch 4 gauges. I have Motion Pro Mercury Sticks now. Second set in 30 years. Older one broke and I spilled some Mercury when moving with the latest set. Randy's look like the next ones I will have since Mercury has become a Black Market item. bol

It seems you have sorted what manometer to write on your wish list but if you just want to get on the road have you considered making one out of cheap bits from your hardware store?

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1562.msg33799;topicseen#msg33799 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1562.msg33799;topicseen#msg33799)

Pics of the dodgy one I made are on the link, it's not pretty but it works well and is quite precise with no chance of getting unwanted fluid in your engine.
There are other easy ways to make one, just have a bit of a hunt around on the www.

I have the motion pro which is ''ok'' but I would reconsider an alternative if I was looking for a replacement. Its expensive for what it is and replacing the fluid is a nuisance.

OK everyone. I'm now sitting here with a Carbtune Pro 4cyl. The instructions are clear enough but I was just wondering if anyone had any tips or pointers with setting up the dampers and general operation with our bike?

Also I dont believe I understand the whole "Adapters" part. Do these stay in? What goes in the hole they was in? why are there 2 different sizes?

Quote from: Slick on August 06, 2011, 07:50:42 PM
Also I dont believe I understand the whole "Adapters" part. Do these stay in? What goes in the hole they was in? why are there 2 different sizes?

The "Adapters" are for those bikes that don't have the vacuum taps in the manifolds like our FJs do.  IIRC the carbs on at least early Honda /4s needed these adapters.  Save them someplace safe in case you need them for another bike.  The length difference was so you could get the vac signal out from both the inner and outer carbs.

Arnie

Quote from: Slick on August 06, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
OK everyone. I'm now sitting here with a Carbtune Pro 4cyl. The instructions are clear enough but I was just wondering if anyone had any tips or pointers with setting up the dampers and general operation with our bike?

I snipped about 2" off each clear tube, and stuck the dampers in.  That end then goes to the unit, and the other goes to the bike.  While you're at it, it's a good time to put some form of marker on each one so that you can tell which cylinder is what without tracing each one out as you put them on.