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Title: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
which one would you get.  i'm thinking of getting another bike, a sportbike, but not sure which one.
i'm just fishing for opinions.

thanks,
larry
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
If money were no object, there would be a few addition bikes in my stable:

Exotica:
Aprillia RSV4
Ducati 1198
MV F4 Tamborini/ 312 etc.

Somewhat more realistic:
Triumph Tiger
or Triumph 675, -really like the power characteristics of the few triples I've ridden.
Honda 919 -possibly the perfect UJM
VFR800 (pre-VTEC)
KTM Super Duke
Suzuki SV650

Just off the top of my head...  -can't see for shit -just came from the eye doc and my pupils are all dilated... Otherwise, I'd add more.

Dan
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
i was sorta leaning towards the sv650.  how about the honda cbr1000's?
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Lotsokids on July 15, 2011, 02:04:43 PM
Yamaha FZ1 or Honda VFR for me.

1. It really depends on your experience level. Newer 1000cc bikes are very light and very powerful.

2. It depends on your riding preference. Longer rides are painful on most sport bikes. That's where the VFR comes in.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: fj1200d on July 15, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
Did take long for me to think of this one.

If money were not in the equation I would say the MTT Turbine Superbike also known as the Y2K.
Here is the link if you have not laid eyes on this beast..
http://www.marineturbine.com/motorcycles.asp (http://www.marineturbine.com/motorcycles.asp)

And for more realistic FJR1300..
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 02:35:55 PM
Quote from: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
how about the honda cbr1000's?

No real interest in the Japanese liter bikes, they are all just uncomfortable with too much power for the street.  Hell, my GSXR750 has too much power for the street.  1st gear will show you an indicated 92 mph, 6th will show you and indicated 182mph (actually 170 -so I've read).  It's light, and very focused yes, like a thou would be, but given that the 750 has well more than I need, or will ever use -I'm just not all that excited about a bigger engine varient of what I already have.

Notice there's no sign of the so-called hyper-bikes: Busa/ ZX14, these are stupid fast, and lumbering in their own way, I'll probably never own one of these.

Nor are there any touring bikes on my list: Goldwing, BMW RT, FJR, -these bikes will be on my list in the future, when the GSXR, and probably the bike after that, become too damn uncomfortable. -that plus there is just no time to do the big distances those bikes are capable of.

Also, no sign of cruisers: Just not my bag, baby...

Interesting that the FZ1 came up on Lotsokids' list, for whatever reason, I have this impression that that bike is involved in wrecks noticeably more than others, not to mention that the latest iteration was outright panned by the motorcycle mags.  

Dan
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 15, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
The new Aprilla V4 Tuono would fit the bill for me. Upright ergos, good motor, chassis, suspension and brakes. Mid 400lbs wet.  Should be fun.  Pat
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Travis398 on July 15, 2011, 03:01:18 PM
FJ1100  :good2:
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: pdxfj on July 15, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
I also have a Ninja 250, but not sure about if I were to get another sport bike.  Maybe FZ1, VFR, ???

Likely would add a dual sport to the garage before another sport bike.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: 1tinindian on July 15, 2011, 03:31:42 PM
I rode an older Honda 1000 Hurricane once and thought it would be nice to have.
I think the later ones were called CBR 1000F, just as likeable.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 15, 2011, 02:44:58 PM
The new Aprilla V4 Tuono would fit the bill for me. Upright ergos, good motor, chassis, suspension and brakes. Mid 400lbs wet.  Should be fun.  Pat

+1  I've admired that bike too.

Dan
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: mz_rider on July 15, 2011, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
i was sorta leaning towards the sv650.  how about the honda cbr1000's?

Larry,

The SV650 is a great little bike. I rode a naked one. Lovely engine - grunty but will also rev. Comfortable, practical & cheap. I also rode a faired one but it was torture. Looking at Bike Trader I see a V-Storm 1000 '04 with 10k miles for two and a half grand 12 miles from my house. Ugly as sin but a lot of metal for the money....must.... resist....must... resist.

Stuart
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on July 15, 2011, 03:31:42 PM
I rode an older Honda 1000 Hurricane once and thought it would be nice to have.
I think the later ones were called CBR 1000F, just as likeable.

Yup.  That was my last bike, the CBR1000F.  Ultimately it was too peaky, and too heavy, not a horrible bike, but nowhere near the lithe corner hunter GSX-R, that replaced it.  

The CBR1000RR is is horse of a different color however.  This, like the R1, ZX-10, GSX-R1000, is a dedicated full on sport bike. With few concessions made for street riding.  These are this bike that as above, simply have limited street application -IMHO.

Dan
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 03:51:26 PM

A WeeStrom would be just the ticket for me...

Randy T
Indy
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: eddohawk on July 15, 2011, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 03:51:26 PM

A WeeStrom would be just the ticket for me...

Randy T
Indy
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Ditto the wee strom although the bars are a tad wide for lane splitting. Just about to get my 09 cb400 assessed by the insurers, might be a write off. I left it parked in a street near my work and when I returned later that night I found the bike covered in clear lacquer overspray from nearby building site. Its has set real hard and almost impossible to remove. Will be interesting to see what the insurer says most of the bike will have to be dismantled and reassembled with new parts. The builder told me to @#$ off but I have told him I will be back....(thank you Dexter)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Klavdy on July 15, 2011, 05:31:51 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 01:34:27 PM
If money were no object, there would be a few addition bikes in my stable:

Exotica:
Aprillia RSV4
Ducati 1198
MV F4 Tamborini/ 312 etc.

Somewhat more realistic:
Triumph Tiger
or Triumph 675, -really like the power characteristics of the few triples I've ridden.
Honda 919 -possibly the perfect UJM
VFR800 (pre-VTEC)
KTM Super Duke
Suzuki SV650

Just off the top of my head...  -can't see for shit -just came from the eye doc and my pupils are all dilated... Otherwise, I'd add more.

Dan

You've already got that sweetest of outright Jap sportsbikes in the Suzuki 750,a personal favourite, and I see you like the 1050 Tiger, I absolutely love mine.

Randy T ,you're a big bloke too, should you get the chance, have a ride on one,(1050 Tiger) they are a bit more fun than the 1000 cc V-Strom ( that's just my comparo opinion mind you) but by all accounts the 650 is the better bike.
Hmmm, how about one of the new 800 Tigers from Triumph?
I'll see if I can get a demo one, tell you how it feels

The Gen 1 Tuono I now have absolutely rocks too, the Tigers a bit more comfortable with a better fuel range, the new V4 Tuono doesn't get very far between fill ups but then again it was never intended to be used as lots of us use bikes, you know, for sporty touring.

If I were to buy a new outright sports bike it would be the BMW S1000RR, holy shit those things go.
All round bike?
Probably the Ducati 1200 Multistrada.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: fj11.5 on July 15, 2011, 06:01:06 PM
Bike of choice , anything italian over 700cc made after 1995 . . bike i could maybe afford trx 850 ,1100 katana, xjr1300
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Flynt on July 15, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
which one would you get.  i'm thinking of getting another bike, a sportbike, but not sure which one.
i'm just fishing for opinions.

thanks,
larry

BMW K1300S...  I traded my '07 K12S (great bike too...  go buy it at SJ BMW) for a '10 K13S.  Some may recall the K12S caused momentary brain death and I tried to sell the FJ.  This time I'll take both.

The K13S is an unreal sport bike with near touring comfort, 175Hp/103ftlb FI power, and really useful gadgets that make it work better (clutchless shifting, ESA on the fly suspension adjustment, heated grips, integrated sport luggage, etc.) and reduce risk (traction control, integrated F/R ABS on front brake lever, hyper-stable suspension, shaft drive so no chain to brake, ...).  I rode the '07 for a while and really got to love it.  It had some shortcomings in shaft lash, shifting roughness, throttle response linearity, and maybe another minor thing or two.  

The '10 has all of these things fixed and quicker response on turns, better ESA, 1,300mi vs. 32,500 on the '07.  The K13S kicks ass speed wise and is always unflapped.  With the shift assist, you hold the throttle open and flick the gearshift up when you want to shift...  seamless 0 to jail runs like shot out of a cannon.  Top speed is a reported 180+mph.

You should ride one...  there are some great deals out there right now.

Frank
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: andyb on July 15, 2011, 07:36:11 PM
I think it really depends on what kind of riding you do.

An early R6, a 98-99 ZX9R, F4 750, 916, SuperHawk VTR1000, TL1000R, 595i, have all been on my wishlist on and off.  But with having a decent sport-touring mount in the garage, I'd like something utterly different, for totally different kinds of riding, like a Venture or a CRF230.

Only advise I can really give is figure out what kind of riding you want to do more of that the FJ isn't great at, and search out a half dozen machines that fit the bill, then research known problems with them.  That way you can get something that doesn't have a known horrible malady like imploding cam lubrication (early honda V4's) or bottom end oiling issues (ZX11), unless that's the sort of work/repair/restoration you like to do.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 03:51:26 PM

A WeeStrom would be just the ticket for me...

Randy T
Indy

Randy-

Ride one a fair distance before you actually plunk down any hard-earned.  I rode one for 2,000 miles through the PNW, BS and AB.  Not a bad bike, but ultimately fairly uderwhelming.  We did a fair bit of gavel roads too, and although it was not bad, I thought it would have been better there too.  FWTW...

Dan
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: SlowOldGuy on July 15, 2011, 07:58:22 PM
The new BMW 6 cylinder in GT trim?
VFR 1200 (but I refuse to pay that much for one)
990 Super Duke
Do they make a V4 Tuono yet?  Maybe it's time to stop by the Duc/Ape/Tri/BMW dealer

First generation FZ1 is a nice bike, but not that much different than the FJ.  I usually prefer to ride one of the  FJs.

DavidR.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: flips on July 15, 2011, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: scarylarry on July 15, 2011, 12:50:07 PM
which one would you get.  i'm thinking of getting another bike, a sportbike, but not sure which one.
i'm just fishing for opinions.

thanks,
larry

Hi larry.
I can recommend a yzf1000 thunderace.Its relatively cheap,fast and reliable and comparatively comfortable compared to other similar machines.If mine wasnt in such good condition I would fit the brakes/forks/wheels to my fj.
heres a pic ...
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2376 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=2376)
Cheers and ride safe! :drinks:

Jeff
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Shaun on July 15, 2011, 09:50:28 PM
I would go with a couple different bikes, Ducati ST4, Triumph Sprint ST, VFR, FZ1, Beull M2 Cyclone, old triumph pre-unit.An FJR1300 would be fun but I don't do the riding that a bike like that needs. As said before depends on what you do and if you consider practicality in your choice (new BMW Sport might be fun).
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 10:11:05 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on July 15, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 03:51:26 PM

A WeeStrom would be just the ticket for me...

Randy T
Indy

Randy-

Ride one a fair distance before you actually plunk down any hard-earned.  I rode one for 2,000 miles through the PNW, BS and AB.  Not a bad bike, but ultimately fairly uderwhelming.  We did a fair bit of gavel roads too, and although it was not bad, I thought it would have been better there too.  FWTW...

Dan


I rode Dan's WeeStrom up and down the Cherohala, and liked it a lot.

I already have one of the great fireroad or gravel road bikes... an XT500 (likely to soon be a 540), since I broke it.  The XTthreefiddy is not bad there, either.

A TDM850 would be nice, but those are getting scarce.

As Klavdy said, I probably would like the Tiger, too.

The (US) Dollar being what it is today brings me right back to the WeeStrom... lots of 'em out there cheap and already farkled.

Randy T
Indy
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Klavdy on July 15, 2011, 11:24:05 PM
U.S Dollar being what it is?
Meh, I travel a fair bit and its still the only currency I keep a stash of.
There's a very good reason why it is accepted and trusted throughout the world.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: rktmanfj on July 15, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: Klavdy on July 15, 2011, 11:24:05 PM
U.S Dollar being what it is?
Meh, I travel a fair bit and its still the only currency I keep a stash of.
There's a very good reason why it is accepted and trusted throughout the world.


It still doesn't buy what it used to, especially when one is considering a Eurobike.     :pardon:

Randy T
Indy
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 15, 2011, 11:33:42 PM
Hey Klavdy, those "old" 2 cylinder Tuono's are going dirt cheap. Hmmmm

After the WCR trip and your extended tour, how did you feel?  Knees/hips and back ok? Seat ok? How was your mileage?

That 6th gear must smooth things out on the hwy.

Re: Multistrada...Are you sure you would want a bike with desmo valvetrain?  
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: NJona86FJ on July 16, 2011, 12:57:41 AM
GPz 900r. Gpz 750 turbo. Mondial 250. Gsx 750 Pop up Katana. RG 500. FZR 1000. thats my list im working on.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Klavdy on July 16, 2011, 01:43:54 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 15, 2011, 11:33:42 PM
Hey Klavdy, those "old" 2 cylinder Tuono's are going dirt cheap. Hmmmm

After the WCR trip and your extended tour, how did you feel?  Knees/hips and back ok? Seat ok? How was your mileage?

That 6th gear must smooth things out on the hwy.

Re: Multistrada...Are you sure you would want a bike with desmo valvetrain?  

The Tuono is a very comfortable bike, actually pretty near the FJ in ergos, surprisingly.
It's the upright seating position that makes it so, mind you  it will be better for me when I raise the bars (its got after market Rizomas on it that are a fair bit lower) back to standard and maybe put on a set of slightly lower pegs.
You'd find it comfortable for sure.
Go take it for a ride any time you want, you know where it is.
Sixth gear is really good, its an overdrive.
I banged it down to fourth on the freeway to pass someone and did an unexpected wheely at 85 mph though, something to watch out for.
Only muffed it that one time .
The mileage?
What, how far you get on a tank or how much fuel does it use?
Its a sweet bike, no intrusive vibes, its got a nice Sergeant seat, its light so you don't have to wrestle it as much as an FJ,handles great, goes like stink and stops like you wouldn't believe.
Nice and slim too.
I fell on my ass one day getting on it though, didn't hoik my leg up far enough to clear the tail bag.
Fluffy was amused.

The Ducatis service interval and reliability are really good by all accounts.

Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: bcguide on July 16, 2011, 01:48:43 AM
want to ride in be for I go
Aprilia rsv r honda rc51 rz500 rz 350 ktm 950 adventure harley xr dirt tracker suzki rg 500

Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Arnie on July 16, 2011, 09:16:36 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking/looking too.  (constant state)

Under consideration:
Aprillia Shadow GT
Triumph Tiger 800
Suzuki SV650
Yam FZ8

Arnie
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: ddlewis on July 16, 2011, 11:04:35 PM
First bike always needs to be something to serve as sport tourer - I like to travel need comfort and luggage..  for 2nd bike I'd go with something like of Duc Hypermotard or KTM superduke or that new Husky 900 twin..

My next bike may actually be a 2 seater sportscar.  Coming to grips with facts - bike just not gonna work for the wife and I.  For one thing I don't enjoy riding two up that much and she likes heat and total rain protection.  I'd like a Boxster but probably settle for mx5
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: E Double on July 16, 2011, 11:21:43 PM
I'm not going to get rid of this bike, but I definitely see myself picking up a Ducati Hypermotard or a KTM 990 SMT when the money is right.  I also would like to get either a BMW RT or the new 6 cylinder LT, as something comfortable enough for my wife to go on longer rides with yet not too luxo-barge.  But actually before any of this happens I definitely see myself picking up a Kymco Downtown or Aprilia Scarabeo as something to ride to work on.  The scoot is near(er) future, the other bikes, not so much.  Perhaps a couple, three years out or so.  I also wouldn't mind a VFR 800 (5th gen) because nothing sounds as good as good as a V4.  Nothing.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Mark Olson on July 17, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
wow what a subject.

there are plenty of bikes to play with depending on your mood but finding just one to replace the fj is difficult. I think the closest would be a FZ 1 about a 2003 .
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 18, 2011, 08:13:43 AM
Well if you want the biggest engine on the road and go faster than a Buggati Veyron, you could try the Dodge Tomohawk....
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: scarylarry on July 18, 2011, 11:49:32 AM
WOW!  what alotta great responses!  i don't know if it made it easier or harder to make a decision   :wacko3:

looks like got some homework to do.
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: fb747 on July 18, 2011, 12:19:29 PM
I'm pretty sure my next addition will be a 1992-93 cbr900 fireblade, the one with the twin headlights. Classic bike that symbolizes the change in modern sport bikes, their starting to go up in value now too.

Other than that,

Honda Cb1300
70's norton commando 850
Bimota db4
Suzuki skywave-burgman 650 scooter for 2 up touring
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Flying Scotsman on July 18, 2011, 12:53:54 PM
Dualsport machine or Trials bike.
Julien duponte has lots of cool vid on youtube

new clip of trial freestyle with Julien Dupont (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PReTX5eWrx4#)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Flying Scotsman on July 18, 2011, 12:57:08 PM
One more



Trial motorcycle bike stunts - Julian Dupont (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjkfbO-UpRI#)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Dazza57 on July 18, 2011, 04:28:03 PM
Rode a friends 05 F4 MV Augusta a short distance the other day, what a sound!! But...... for comfort I much prefer the FJ. The MV would be nice to punt around a track or a real nice set of NZ twisties but not up here long straight roads. Interesting, my friends first response after getting off the FJ, was wow that is luxury :)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Klavdy on July 18, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
That American "MOTUS" looks interesting.
(http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201103/motus-mst-series_460x0w.jpg)

Closest thing on the market that comes to mind though, is the Suzuki 1250 S.
(http://motoaus.com/images/stories/suzuki/GSF1250-Bandit-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...Motus
Post by: simi_ed on July 19, 2011, 01:54:15 AM
Apparently they actually run
MST-R Start Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtLnWoh6Mbo#)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: ddlewis on July 20, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
My next bike..

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lMuEc1kwujI/Tid8f_EvwUI/AAAAAAAAAQk/-QFr6Ni9cvM/Easyonth1.jpg)
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Flynt on July 20, 2011, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on July 20, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
My next bike..

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lMuEc1kwujI/Tid8f_EvwUI/AAAAAAAAAQk/-QFr6Ni9cvM/Easyonth1.jpg)

Needs more mouth...
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: Flynt on July 20, 2011, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on July 20, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
My next bike..

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lMuEc1kwujI/Tid8f_EvwUI/AAAAAAAAAQk/-QFr6Ni9cvM/Easyonth1.jpg)

Needs more mouth...



    I thought the lack of that part was what made it perfect.....

Eric M
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: Harvy on July 20, 2011, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 20, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: Flynt on July 20, 2011, 08:52:02 PM
Quote from: ddlewis on July 20, 2011, 08:18:11 PM
My next bike..

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lMuEc1kwujI/Tid8f_EvwUI/AAAAAAAAAQk/-QFr6Ni9cvM/Easyonth1.jpg)

Needs more mouth...



    I thought the lack of that part was what made it perfect.....

Eric M

Exactly Eric!

Harvy
Title: Re: if you were to get another bike...
Post by: carsick on July 20, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
The fender paint matches the helmet, that fella has style. I s'pose a single works if you're not in a hurry for the ride to be over. How big is the tank? She'd have to hold a lot for those long hauls.