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Title: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 15, 2011, 07:16:33 AM
Ok forgive me if this is a medial question but i have to ask cos i simply dont know. What i do know is that when you want to cjange how the FJ idles there is a little switch u turn located sort of under the petrol tank. What I would like to know if you want the bike to idle lower in which direction do you turn it and how would you turn it once the engine is steaming hot? (im asking becos when i bought the bike the dealership had upped the idle so that the bike could start and idle while cold but the engine obviously doesnt stay cold forever and it is getting a little irritating having the bike idle at 3000 - 4000rpm after riding just a few miles which has made me have to leave the clutch constantly very open which isnt always a good idea) so yeah thats my story answers may be simple but please let me know I dont want to do the wrong thing and overheat the engine
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: andyb on July 15, 2011, 07:56:10 AM
To reduce the idle, you'll want to unscrew it, but it screws in an upwards direction.  I can't think of a good way to describe the direction, though.  Turn it one direction and if it idles higher, go the other way :)

Set it to 1100 or so, with the engine fully warm.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 15, 2011, 07:58:02 AM
Thanks I will definitely try that when I go home this afternoon
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: fj11.5 on July 15, 2011, 08:39:39 AM
counter clockwise to slow it down, , can be done with the engine hot if your carefull and have small hands, or wear a glove,
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: Flynt on July 15, 2011, 08:44:37 AM
most people use a long screwdriver and reach in from the right side...  it doesn't take much rotation to change the idle significantly.

Frank
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: Klavdy on July 15, 2011, 09:05:21 AM
Dean just reaches 'round,,,
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: movenon on July 15, 2011, 09:49:14 AM
"ditto" on the long screwdriver. Easy to adjust. Knob has notches it. Mine sounds better at 1100 rpm (trims out the rattling sound). Now if I could stop riding long enough to rebuild the carbs all would be great. I just keep enduring the slight rough running under 2800 rpm..... Enjoy the summer.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: Travis398 on July 15, 2011, 03:19:12 PM
It is in the center of the 4 carbs on the bottom, no need to remove the gas tank. As everyone already said in (CW) is higher out (CCW) lower idle.

Long screwdriver keeps your hand from getting burned, as you probably want to adjust it when the Motor is warmed up.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJmonkey on July 15, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: andyb on July 15, 2011, 07:56:10 AM
To reduce the idle, you'll want to unscrew it, but it screws in an upwards direction.  I can't think of a good way to describe the direction, though.  Turn it one direction and if it idles higher, go the other way :)
Set it to 1100 or so, with the engine fully warm.
Maybe you should just flip it over and reverse any directions already provided.....
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 18, 2011, 01:55:28 AM
Found it and tried but it will only work when the bike is warm otherwise turning it down and trying to start in the cold is impossible although I think the fuel I bought is also probably also partly to blame, but atleast when it was running and then I cahnged it down it worked, much better to idle at 3000 to 4000 rpm. I enjoy winter unfortunately but now I cant wait for summer
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: RichBaker on July 18, 2011, 04:21:47 AM
The dealership probably did that to avoid cleaning the carbs... sounds like the pilot jets are dirty and need a good cleaning.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 18, 2011, 04:49:27 AM
How would I find those and clean them and would I be able to do it myself/ with the help of somebody who knows more than I do or would it be best to service it?
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: RichBaker on July 18, 2011, 05:01:20 AM
This thread (click me) (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4281.0) tells and shows about everything you need to know.... You need to pull the carbs, it helps to remove the top 2 bolts holding the subframe to the frame and rotating the subframe down a bit.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 18, 2011, 05:23:29 AM
You are right it does show everything and its much better than the diagram thing I have thanks a million I will get to cleaning them this weekend when I have time on my hands again
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: billwest on July 18, 2011, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 15, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
Maybe you should just flip it over and reverse any directions already provided.....

Don't forget about the coriolis force - things go the opposite way in the Southern Hemisphere ..............
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: Klavdy on July 18, 2011, 07:05:23 AM
Quote from: billwest on July 18, 2011, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 15, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
Maybe you should just flip it over and reverse any directions already provided.....

Don't forget about the coriolis force - things go the opposite way in the Southern Hemisphere ..............

No.
They don't always. (http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp)
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: billwest on July 18, 2011, 08:21:53 PM
Well, what do you know........

Another "fact" debunked.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJTillDeath on July 19, 2011, 05:57:26 AM
Sarcasm gotta love it
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: flips on July 23, 2011, 01:26:45 AM
Quote from: billwest on July 18, 2011, 06:05:02 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 15, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
Maybe you should just flip it over and reverse any directions already provided.....

Don't forget about the coriolis force - things go the opposite way in the Southern Hemisphere ..............
:rofl: :sarcastic: :rofl:
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: Matt on August 27, 2011, 10:24:20 PM
My FJ is running like it should now after my initial problems with the fuel pump but it sounded like it was going to implode at idle - rpm was closer to 500 than 1000!  Anyhow, being in New Zealand I turned the bike upside down (took ages to get the windscreen off and rig up a gravity feed from the removed tank to the pump) and whoever said that you can reach that nut with your hand must have very small mitts...  I ended up asking the 2 year old next door to reach in and turn the nut.  The hospital advises that the burns will heal in a week or two and his mother says it wasn't entirely my fault.

It does run now very smoothly at idle.  The only problem is I can't turn it back over on to its wheels on my own and the neighbourhood mothers have banned their kids from helping me anymore.

Ideas?   :shok:



All jokes aside it was a pretty easy job, why on earth the idle screw is there I don't know, if it wasn't for the forum I'd never find it.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: ribbert on August 28, 2011, 04:54:58 AM
Many folk recommend adjusting the idle speed with a screwdriver, which is still a bit fiddly.  I find the easiest way (on a hot motor)  is with a gloved hand, either my winter riding glove or if at home a riggers glove (not too thick). You can also do it this way on the road in about 4 seconds once you've done it a few times and know exactly where to reach and what to feel.
Title: Re: Clockwise or counterclockwise
Post by: FJmonkey on August 28, 2011, 12:14:58 PM
Quote from: ribbert on August 28, 2011, 04:54:58 AM
Many folk recommend adjusting the idle speed with a screwdriver, which is still a bit fiddly.  I find the easiest way (on a hot motor)  is with a gloved hand, either my winter riding glove or if at home a riggers glove (not too thick). You can also do it this way on the road in about 4 seconds once you've done it a few times and know exactly where to reach and what to feel.
I used to adjust mine with a screwdriver...Till I bent the adjusting screw!!! Bent it back straight sometime later when I had the tank off. Now I reach in with a glove on. I could jimmy up a tool using a right angle attachment. Too much effort for not having to adjust it very often.